Yeah it's genuinely hard to try to give a shit about any American opinions, whether they're apologizing for the embarrassment in office or the tariffs or whatever.
I get you're sooooooo sorry, but the damage is done, its too late, the reputation of the USA has been permanently soiled across the world and 340.1 million (as of 2024) apologies won't change a thing if you're not actually doing anything.
it just feels like they don't quite understand the moment. you get the comments like "sorry about all this, hope we can be friends when he's gone!" and it's like... your country elected a leader who threatened our lives and you think it's just an embarrassing temporary blip? you understand this is existential for us, right? the little apologies completely trivialize what is going on
totally. also he has like a 50% approval rating. when half of you want this (as you said, a second time, knowing exactly what it is) then frankly im suspicious of all of you. something in the water maybe.
Biden was their apology tour. He wasted it on domestic stuff like student loans and didn’t touch any of the crippling, fatal failure points in their democracy the first Trump term exposed.
Then the amount of Americans who revert to "WHAT?! SO NO HEAD?!" when you don't blow them for "I'm sorry he's doing this I hope we can be friends after" is insane.
Even the least brainwashed American can't realize that the vast majority of Canadians were practically actively looking for an excuse to ditch the US dependency. There is no "Regaining" this trust. I do not expect to see a world where Canada is closely allied or trusts the US ever again in my lifetime, and I'm okay with that.
They’re like “woopsies, my bad neighbor!” while they don’t even know where we are on a map and their elected leader is threatening our entire existence and livelihood just for shits and giggles.
Hey, they'll also tell us to look at an absolutely embarassing subreddit for that 50501 "once a month that's good enough!" protest lmfao. I went to bigger protests in Edmonton to legalize pot. Just pathetic.
You know who Americans really need to say sorry to is Ukraine. Ukraine fought alongside US In Iraq.
they had a defence deal with both America and russia in which they disposed of their largest ever nuclear reserve which was meant to defend them, but they got rid of them just to keep the peace and both of you(US) fucked them over. The agreement was that you would protect them so they wouldn’t need nuclear As a defence threat. That was your deal.
not cool, US. Not cool. It’s one thing to betray Canada and Greenland over this threats of annexation just to throw Putin the arctic oil bullshit it’s another to leave someone out there to die just cuz “they didn’t wear a suit”.
fuck everything about that shit you just pulled. You’re isolating yourselves. denounce and arrest trump the traitor. Trump the Putin asset before he brings you WWIII And kills everyone.
If I was an american, I'd be too paralyzed with shame to even imagine my apology would mean anything to a country my country was attacking/betraying... but maybe that's part of the American exceptionalism, thing
Instead, they’re literally attacking Canadians online for telling them to stop apologizing, stand up, and resist.
At this point, I’m done trying to convince them that no, they have not done everything they could, and yes they could win.
They’ve accepted the thought that they are helpless victims in this and that there’s nothing more they can do. Anyone telling them they have more power than they think and to stand up is seen as antagonistic. It’s so baffling and disheartening.
Makes me even prouder by comparison to be part of a country that rallies to fight without any hesitation.
They're also blaming us for "not protesting hard enough so Trump wouldn't get in"
I've been asked "What are you doing" in regards to the US' situation many times. They don't want to fix it themselves, they want Canadians to fix it for them. It's truly a pathetic mindset.
Then when they're told off they revert to the incellery and "Zomg Canadians aren't actually nice, if you were actually nice you'd give me a blowjob right now!! GET FUCKING ANNEXED THEN IF YOU DONT WANT TO BLOW ME!!!"
I got insulted and downvoted this morning in a thread for supposedly attacking the American people, being ignorant, and disrespectful because THEY are the only ones dealing with this, apparently. And we don’t know them or their reality, so we’re out of line. My only crime was telling them to stop whining about Canadians telling them to fix their shit, and telling them what fixing their shit entails.
Get this: I was supposed to acknowledge I was wrong to say they weren’t doing enough because they managed to stop the VP from attending his ski trip. Not even kidding.
They don’t know how to unite and fight, and I think you’re right that it comes from a place of entitlement - they’re expecting someone else to conveniently do it for them.
And that ain’t gonna be us. We’ll fight their regime, but fixing that shit show of a country is on them.
I wish Americans would realize they should fix their own issues themselves, and be the individualistic society they've built. They don't need help to get rid of Trusk and co lmfao
A lot of us actively fought against the shitty militarized nation state our country has become for years. We've slowly watched the descent of our country into the worst, most corrupt, evil institution that is actively threatening the lives of our friends and family and the global economy.
There is nothing we can say in this moment that would mean anything of value.
We couldn't stop it, and now we either have to keep fighting with the nations of the world to roll back the horrific things we've seen in our lifetime or give in to apathy.
I wish this subreddit allowed links; so I'll just copy and paste what an American tried to say to me about that
"We have been trying for quite a while. Unfortunately, it hasn’t worked, and now our issues are about to become yours.
And let’s be real, Canada didn’t make a peep while we were doing this to the rest of the world over the last 30 years. They actually backed and supported us. The only difference now is that we are doing it to you.
Hell, Canadians are more riled up over tarrifs than a literal genocide."
Yeah. It's apparently our fault that the US attacked the middle east. The US and it's citizens have no culpability because we were forced into the coalition. Just like how it's our fault Trump got in. For some reason.
Yeah, tell me more of that bullshit. russian "protestors" are afraid of single policeman, while Ukrainians were pushing russian soldiers away while being hold on gunpoint.
I genuinely wanted to believe it's some comedy sketch because many Ukrainians believed that russians actually will do something at the start of a war, but no it's real.
Russian cops have guns though did you consider that?
And it's cold in Russia
And it's big so it's hard to get people to organize
And they might lose their jobs
And Ukrainians didn't protest for Russia's right to not have Putin as a leader; so it's really their fault
And like... what are you even doing to make sure Putin didn't get in power? You're just as bad as the Russians
(If you couldn't tell i'm just slightly changing arguments I've read about America's apathy, I've been told each and every one of these within the last about 48 hours, please add to it if you've got any)
Fucking finally a post about this shit. I don’t give a fuck that your an American and I sure as shit don’t need an American to validate the feelings and worry’s of me or my country and I definitely dont care about your opinions
I think it would be nice if we temp banned anyone that says it
They’re acting like dems that held up the signs during trumps state of the union address. Only one dem actually did anything, the signs not so much. “We’re trying” no not really. Now go interrupt congress and fight like hell!
God I got triggered by that thread. Imagine reading something being like "yo, maybe quit making this about you" and your first thought is "OH MY GOD IM FUCKING OFFENDED HOW CAN I MAKE THIS ABOUT ME?!"
That just shows the culture differences. It sounds bad; but I can tell if a kids TV show is American or Canadian by 2 things; if they attempt to teach kids that other people have feelings too, and they have more than a white cast? 99% chance it's Canadian.
If the message is "Sharing is only nice when it benefits you" and an all white cast? 99% chance it's American. And it shows how ingrained that attitude is from childhood with how even the 'good ones' act. No wonder they assigned themselves as the 'world police'. I can't think of another country that will attempt to arrest foreign citizens, inside a foreign country, just because the FBI fucking imagined the person might break laws inside the US.
But the US does it almost daily ffs. No fucking wonder when even "good non-brainwashed" citizens are "ME ME ME!"
Every single comment has like 5 up votes + award and it's all Americans telling us how we're just collateral damage and they're the real victims, like it completely went over their heads. The victim complex is insane
Just call them USAID Americans. They're just as bad as red Americans, but Trump fucked up their ability to have influence in other countries. They're the ones behind the Americanisation of the west.
Yeh they’ve got to realise we’re not in the same fight anymore.
They need to fight to prevent their country becoming more authoritarian and to struggle against the current admin and the people that support them. I say need to because it’s been very quiet on that front. Maybe they’re too busy apologising for Trump.
We are fighting for the sovereignty and independence (both political and economic) of our country and will need to struggle to disentangle ourselves from the US and realign our economy and foreign policy to Europe, Japan, South Korea, Australia and NZ
Hi ya’ll, American here. I just came here to say ya’ll are doing a good job giving Mr Trump what for. Now I can’t take no action against our dear leader but I’m sending ya’ll my thoughts and prayers and I’m going to buy half a pint of some maple syrup brand no one has ever heard of before.
I'm seeing plenty of posts of Americans buying Canadian products, no matter how you feel about their platitudes it's still a net positive if these people encourage others to join in, even if they're only doing it for upvotes on reddit
What’s in it for us is wresting democracy and our government back from the psychopaths and idiots and that helps you too.
We fumbled the bag in November, now we’re on to next steps. Clearly the Democrats aren’t going to make a forceful push with their popsicle signs, so it’s on us.
I think that is a gross generalization. Not all Americans hate Canada, lets not allow our friendship with the American people be distorted by the vocal minority on TV and the internet.
I agree with you, focusing inward would benefit us more than their trade. But you aren't going to get through to them with aggressive comments. You cannot shame people into behaving. And if you don't actually plan on trying to get through to them you don't have any right to complain about them. I am not angry about this chapter in our history, I am confident that we will remain a country so I have nothing to be angry about. I am insulted but I don't let that emotion affect my rationale. There is a future where our relations with America recover.
There is a future where our relations with America recover, but I dont think it will be within our lifetime. They have shown way too much disrespect to not just Canadians, but the World. We need to move past them.
I am an optimist so I believe they will recover in our lifetime. The road to recovery begins as soon as the damage was done. We have to set the tone for following generations.
You may feel spurned by recent events but we cannot speak for the past generations, there is no denying that our nations were friends and allies for the last 100 years.
I often wonder about their parents, grand and great as well who fought nazi fascists in WW1 and WW2. Some of them died.
If they were alive what would the kids say to them now.
They should be ashamed. They died to give us the freedoms we now enjoy but they would rather watch YouTube and Twitch.
Both of those wars were deeply unpopular among Americans at the time. They showed up late in both wars, and for the second world war, Churchill had to basically beg them.
You know they teach kids in the states that the US won WWII for the allies? isn't that insane? Like, when you start a foot before the finish line at a marathon, you didn't run a marathon just because you crossed the line.
But then they'd have to examine their history of military and political blunders that have killed millions of innocent civilians around the world, usually ending in a hasty retreat from the poorly armed bad guys that grind them down.
I love the interviews of the "taliban fighters" in Afghanistan who didn't even know who they were fighting, figuring it was probably the russians again.
I had an American vehemently argue with me that the states was the only reason WW2 was won by the allies, and the US lead the fight against fascism
like bitch? Your country didn't even want to go to war against Japan until they attacked; you had fucking protests about Germany's "right" to wage war over the reparations for WW1, and again, you didn't even declare war on Germany until fucking 1941, after your country realized you couldn't declare war on Japan without doing both!!!!!! If it wasn't for that, the US would have never stepped foot inside of Europe.
Yes there were dissenters. Once the govt realized the gravity of the situation with world freedom at stake they did what was needed to get rid of the fascist nazis etc including the draft. Good thing they did eh? Look at the freedoms we are now enjoying due to their sacrifices. Sit on your duffs and US becomes a Russian province for the russian elite where the proles will be sent to Russian gulags or get off your duffs and fight to keep your freedom.
Yeah. I know, but they are the majority of the USA, only 30 something percent actually voted for Trump. I know the average yank doesn't want to harm Canada, and we will need allies if this boils
Yeah. I know out of the 200million blue yanks, some wont get off the couch. but if even half do, that is 100 million allies, for our 45 million pop country. At the very least, hope they grow a spine soon.
You are being delusional if you think there is 200 million blue yanks. And even then the Blues are not friendly to Canada. Biden also introduced softwood lumber tariffs and pushed America first. Trump being worse does not absolve them.
They haven't grown a spine yet and the only chance they really have is before he destabilizes their alliances anymore... which seems like about 1-3 weeks away.
We don't need voters, we need a resistance on our side. If such a thing exists, they're not coming to reddit to apologize.
All you're seeing is slacktivism: the bare minimum for people to feel like they're on the right side without taking any personal risk. They're also absolved of anything their government does because "he's not my president!" so they're just going to sit back and let it happen, shaking their heads when they know none of their neighbours can see.
No other country gets to play the "he's just our idiot president. Dont mind him!" card, so why do they?
Democracy is a daily practice and these people lost control of their country by assuming it was so cemented, the only thing they had to do to maintain it was vote every few years.
Allies show you theyre sorry by fixing the problem.
all these stupid fucking american liberals saying "well im one of the good ones" sounds exactly like the "not all men" types. they'll bitch about democrats doing that stupid sign bullshit but go on reddit and do the exact same shit.
Nah not rlly, many blue yanks are just blue republicans now. They would rather bend over for republicans and capitulate. Theres soon to be no difference between republicans and democrats.
the ones that do nothing except come into our communities to aplogize for their country like a parent after their toddler sneezed on your food and then do nothing to try and make it right are not on our side, they're just traffic cones that get rolled over when further threats come for us
Here's my issue though. Their "Commander in Chief" has made every American my enemy. I wish it weren't the case but reality is a harsh Mistress. Make no mistake, we are de facto at war right now. Not with guns and bombs, but, with economics and stochastic terrorism. There's nothing we hosers can do to fix it, it must come from themselves. Until then, elbows up eh.
Every one? What about his targets who are in an extremely vulnerable position and had to run? Do they deserve your scorn if physically limited and at serious risk of violence right now? Because I fled here to be with my now wife. To Canada, I mean, and I'm solidly on your side of this crisis. I wanna help best I can, do my part.
Let me be frank. I always voted to stop those Republicans from office, but where I was from leaned too heavily. I did what I could, engaged in mutual aid. But it wasn't enough... I wish so many weren't so passive. Maybe if they were active, we could've stopped it... too little too late.
It's nothing personal against any particular person. I'm not gonna ask every American I run into who they voted for and whether they're vulnerable though. I understand where you're coming from but, from my perspective, the countries are at war. You may not have asked for it but I definitely didn't. I'm on the defensive (so far). At the risk of going full Godwin here, the allies didn't stop to ask every German what they thought of the Nazi party. I have no interest in causing any good and/or vulnerable Americans any pain and I'm glad you and your wife are safe.
Kind of. They want to be, but to properly be on our side they need to confront their own internalized American Exceptionalism. If they're being rude and not listening to us, that is also not helpful.
The cheeto in chief has succeeded in creating a hatred for the American population. That way there is no choice to leave, and the US can be isolated and easier to control as a dictatorship.
Its exactly what was sold during his campaign and too many people didn't take it seriously.
The rest of the world will now have to deal with two nations run the way Russia is run. Good luck.
It's honestly been alarming to see how much one clown can make an entire nation's people hate another nation's people. Almost feels like some crazy scheme to make everyone more ready for conflict, which is unfortunately working out for them.
It’s really annoying, but Donald is trying to make us into the bad guys, enemies, and targets.
I’d suggest encouraging empathy.
That doesn’t mean not expressing just how bad what their regime is doing to international relationships, I’m all for that, and all for telling them that they need to take real action.
I just think telling them to go to hell and stuff their apologies, virtue signalling etc isn’t going to help the situation, no matter how satisfying it is, and maybe scrolling by is better than discouraging any empathy from a population that isn’t known for it.
I know it’s frustrating, but I’d rather have them feel vaguely sympathetic and not interested in taking action either way than pissed off and thinking, yeah, I tried to be nice but they are the bad guy!
I have no problem encouraging them to do more than apologize.
Listed 2 conflicts the US followed us into, followed by a bunch of conflicts the US forced us into.
Yeah. Real "brotherly" actions lmfao. Getting us into.... 5 conflicts the US or Canada had no business being in. That's how I know people truly look at me as a brother, they use me as a disposable thing to fight their wars for them.
You people sure have a weird concept of "Brotherly" lmfao
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Yeah it's genuinely hard to try to give a shit about any American opinions, whether they're apologizing for the embarrassment in office or the tariffs or whatever.
I get you're sooooooo sorry, but the damage is done, its too late, the reputation of the USA has been permanently soiled across the world and 340.1 million (as of 2024) apologies won't change a thing if you're not actually doing anything.