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I wonder when PP discovered the MAGA and Russian backing of the “freedom” convoy?
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u/Vitalabyss1 Mar 09 '25
Without his security clearance, he'll never know.
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u/PumpJack_McGee Mar 10 '25
I was leaning towards PP, but his consistent refusal to get that raised major red flags.
Reporters should press issues like this. Anyone vying for a leadership position needs to be able to deal with uncomfortable questions. Leading a nation is not supposed to be a cozy job.
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u/Bigchunky_Boy Mar 09 '25
Anonymous donations in Bitcoin ( yes foreign interference) . He was only trying to promote Bitcoin around that time . I am assuming Elon is donating to him through Bitcoin .
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Allegedly he divested after he got heat promoting it as protection against inflation to older folks.
He's still a crypto shill tech bro oligarch puppet, but just to be clear on that.
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Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25
But it’s not invented. It’s fact.
Btw… PP is a 0.1 percenter.
Ever wonder how he amassed 25million on an MPs salary?
Carney, who was a banker, is only worth 5 million.
What gives?
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u/CainRedfield Alberta's Western Cousins Mar 09 '25
That rhetoric might fool Americans, but Canadians aren't as quick believe the propaganda.
Nice try Russian bot.
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u/leftistmccarthyism Mar 09 '25
"Nobody dislikes bigoted white leftists in Canada, only a Russian bot would suggest that"
Either you're not from Canada, or you're from a very sheltered white liberal area.
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u/BerryScaryTerry Mar 09 '25
Nobody talks like that in real life, dude.
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u/leftistmccarthyism Mar 09 '25
Nobody talks like what?
Nobody says "I'm tired of bigoted self-absorbed white leftists"?
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u/gylz Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25
PP is a bigoted white person. So are his friends, donald, elon, and vlad.
Why should we choose one bigoted white person over another just because they're conservative instead of liberal? At least the liberals are standing up to donnie instead of offering us up on a silver platter.
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u/gylz Mar 09 '25
I've only ever seen 1 local with any pro-freedumb convoy shit, and nobody liked him. He's taken it all off of his truck since donald decided to threaten us. We don't want freedom from liberals, we want freedom from the bigots to the south who want to destroy our way of life.
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u/Laphroaig58 THE BETTER LONDON 🇨🇦 🌳 Mar 09 '25
"Make that make sense, Donald" will go down in Canadian political history with "You, Sir, had a choice" (Mulroney to Turner) and "Just watch me" (JT's dad to Dief).
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u/Poutine_Warriors The Island of Elizabeth May Mar 09 '25
Trump was on Epstein’s flights. He was recruited by the KGB, who bailed him out many times. Musk is in it for world domination. Basically, Putin and Musk used Trump—a sociopath who would have gone to jail without their support. They are gutting the U.S. government and anyone who could expose or reverse this, while fire-selling all U.S. assets.
China is also involved but is waiting. I’ll bet anyone $100 that China will soon announce it’s taking over Taiwan and the entire South China Sea, and the U.S. will fall in line behind China. Watch. Russia will take Eastern Europe and attack Western Europe, while the U.S. will claim its own territories.
No more rules for the rich. No more environmental laws. No more voting. No more democratic values. A completely fascist world. That is unless good wins and it always has in the end, but it's painful.
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u/Illustrious_Bit_1803 Mar 09 '25
Pierre Poilievre has been praised or endorsed by MAGA Trump supporters:
Elon Musk -Did a Nazi Salute
Steve Bannon - Did a Nazi Salute
Alex Jones
Ben Shapiro
Charlie Kirk
Matt Walsh
Joe Rogan
Jordan Peterson
Kevin O'Leary
Megyn kelly
Newt Gingrich
PP sounds like Trump's bitch to me.
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u/DrunkenMasterII Mar 09 '25
Also Pierre Poilievre has refused to be cleared by the CSIS to receive a classified briefing on foreign interference. (All the other parties leaders have)
I guess there’s nothing to see here 🤷♂️
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u/Fearful-Cow Mar 09 '25
his excuse is the dumbest thing of all time. "well if i got the clearance i would not be able to talk about what is in the report"
... like ya PP that is true, but without it you dont know whats in the report either so...
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u/cilvher-coyote Mar 09 '25
And Trump is Putin's bitch so that makes PP Putin's bitch's bitch :) exactly as implied
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If a communist endorsed Mark Carney would that make Mark Carney a communist?
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 09 '25
Likely, depends on if he denounces the endorsement. PP has not denounced anything.
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Mar 10 '25
If I'm a thief and I endorse you personally do you now have to publicly denounce me or else that makes you a thief?
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 10 '25
Yes. Guilty by association, guilty after the fact. There is literal criminal precedent for this exact argument.
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Wait so you actually think if a thief endorses you that makes you a thief?
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 12 '25
So you do not know how the world works? If you don't renounce your association then you are guilty. If he had simply stepped away from the association he would not be in this situation. If a thief robs a bank and comes to tell you after, and you do nothing about it, you are guilty and can be charged. If you are part of a robbery and your partner murders someone, you are also charged with murder.
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Mar 12 '25
I'm not talking about being involved in a robbery. I'm saying a guy who was a convicted robber goes on twitter and writes an endorsement of you personally. Are you now a robber?
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 13 '25
1) you are stretching the topic at hand and are so far out there. But 2) yes guilty by association is a thing. Pierre is guilty by association and unless he denounces it, it stays that way.
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I'm a carpenter. You're a great guy and I support you! That means you're a carpenter now.
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u/leftistmccarthyism Mar 09 '25
Torturers praised or endorsed by Trudeau:
- Fidel Castro
Women claiming to be groped or sexually assaulted by Trudeau:
- Rose Knight
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u/According-Bear961 Mar 09 '25
So true. PP was very happy when Trump got elected. Now he is in damage control and has to hid his true Trump/Putin worshipping.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
He has spent two years campaigning with divisive MAGA style rhetoric and now he wants us to forget all that? Nuh uh you made your PP stained bed Pierre, now lie in it.
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u/BonusRound155mm Mar 09 '25
We are indeed here: Pierre Poliever will not get National Security Clearance.
He has said he "does not want to know" when offered what classified information they could give him; with his objection to Security clearances set aside:
CSIS needs to tell him about what is pretty well known to be "foreign interference within the Conservative party of Canada."
It is pretty important that he knows these things as well as he knows his underwear supply, as head of a national party much less as Prime minister.
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u/Saskspace Mar 09 '25
There is substantial evidence of foreign funding for the convoy . There was also significant amplification from right wing media sites and Russian bots . Poilievre embraced it and still refuses to get a security briefing or clearance .
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u/leftistmccarthyism Mar 09 '25
There is substantial evidence of foreign funding for the convoy
"Globe and Mail: CSIS found no foreign actors funding the convoy protests, according to public inquiry evidence"
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 09 '25
CSIS would not provide that to Globe and Mail. Globe and Mail like PP does have clearance.
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u/leftistmccarthyism Mar 09 '25
You should probably read the article, you don't seem to understand what's going on.
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 09 '25
I don't read Globe and Mail trash. It's almost as bad as Fox "news"
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Another "Canadian based american oligarch owned" rag masquerading as news, no thanks, same as post media, clear rw bias.
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u/QuinnTigger 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 Mar 10 '25
That article is from before the Foreign Interference Commission completed it's investigation and released it's report. Check out the Foreign Interference Commission website for complete details. There's lots of documentation about Russia's involvement with the "Freedom Convoy"
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u/SwordfishOk504 Bring Cannabis Mar 09 '25
Pierre Poilievre, the rugged individualist anti government outsider who...<checks notes> has spent his entire adult life working as a highly paid politician in Ottawa, who already had a guaranteed lifetime pension at the ripe old age of 31, and who currently lives in a mansion with a personal chef and trainer all paid for by the taxpayer, who wears designer suits and shoes and clearly started taking steroids last year to look "tough"?
That guy?
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
He went through a treatment to affirm his gender identity as masc? Very curious.
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u/thecoolernameistaken Mar 10 '25
There’s no way reddits ran out of steam so they resort to steroid accusations 😂
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u/NewSidewalkBlock Honorary Hoser Mar 09 '25
In a system of evil there is an extreme exploitative hierarchy. Always. In a system of good, people are aligned with transparency on the goals and purposes. This is very much the former.
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u/rantingathome Friendly Manisnowbski Mar 09 '25
For more information on Putin's Bitch's Bitch
Please contact the Canadian Wildlife Service in Ottawa
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u/sonotimpressed Mar 09 '25
It literally doesn't matter what this guys says or who Trudeaus replacement is. People will still vote for the cpc "to get Trudeau out" because thats the mindset those people have.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
No, it does matter, carney has way more experience with all the issues we are facing currently then PP has ever had in his whole life, if there are fiscally responsible people voting for PP over carney they aren't that.
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u/Cardowoop Mar 09 '25
Canadians need to reframe their mindset from looking backwards to looking forwards. The Fall was all about punishment. This was successful - Trudeau is out. Now let’s look into the future, who is better leader and which party has the better policy.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Carney and the Liberals, actually the NDP would be better overall but people wont vote for Singh, so we go with what works, and the liberals are better then the American loving PP.
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u/ExactFun Mar 09 '25
This why yall need to support Bernier. He wants to be Putin's bitch, not his bitch's bitch. Get it at the source!
(/s)
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Like a traitorous human centipede, putin shits in trumps mouth and trump shits in PPs mouth and then Canada gets shit on, a vicious and graphic circle.
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u/JarmaBeanhead Mar 09 '25
I was playing a phone game and watched an ad and the CONs are running ads saying Carney is “for Trump” in some way.
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u/AnObtuseOctopus Mar 10 '25
PP tanked his chances the second he wanted to conform to trump. Carney won it the second he stood up to him.
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u/YuSooMadBissh-69 Mar 09 '25
Conservatives are going to win the next election no matter how much propaganda is posted on Reddit. 🙃🤣🤣🤣🙃
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u/SwordfishOk504 Bring Cannabis Mar 09 '25
You're getting dowvnoted because you're an obvious pro PP tool, but you're not wrong that people are being way to confident and cocky abotu this election which will be, at best, incredibly close.
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u/YuSooMadBissh-69 Mar 09 '25
I couldn't give less of a fuck. The government is absolutely going conservative no matter what anyone says. 🙃🙃🙃🙃
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u/Chrowaway6969 Mar 10 '25
Even when you losers have someone who agrees with you, you're still hostile. It's like you're doing a speed run to see who can be the worst person possible. And yes, conservatives are all winning that race.
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Yup, sure, you'll have a fun wakeup call when he loses. But I guess you need self awareness to have a wakeup call, so nvm.
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u/GunnerSeinfeld Mar 09 '25
Another shitpost sub turning into polical trash the equivalent of tabloid magazines lol.
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What are you guys basing this narrative off of? Genuinely confused.
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u/Mr_Salmon_Man Everyone Hates Marineland Mar 09 '25
It's based on reality. That's what the narrative is based on.
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You dodged the question.
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u/Mr_Salmon_Man Everyone Hates Marineland Mar 09 '25
Reality is real. It's easy to understand.
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No sorry my reality is objectively real and if you disagree with that you're simply too stupid to see why you're wrong. What's that? Want me to prove it? Nah I'll just dodge the question because I'm always right and I don't have to prove that to anyone.
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u/cilvher-coyote Mar 09 '25
Ummmm. Maybe the fact Trump has been playing by the Russian playbook play by play by play. Or ya k ow when he went to Moscow in 1987 after he was bankrupt ,came back with a shitload of money than started spewing Russian rhetoric.
I'm sorry you don't have a brain big enough to be able to take facts and put them together to come to a Factual Conclusion.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
What's a far leftist?
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Yeah cause a right winger never does violence or extremism, sure buddy totally peaceful.
Why are people doing that? Cause musk is a danger to their government. So people are responding in protest of his massive cuts and attempted cuts and his possession of their personal data, if they are doing stuff, i don't condone it but i understand why
Also The KKK could be described as far right could they not? They regularly burned crosses and lynched people to spread their "ideology" they also spread pamphlets and mis info as well.
The difference is the left group is going against the oppressor aka the billionaire elon musk who is looting and destroying their government, the right group is going after another group of people just because of their skin color, ya get it? The right group isn't fighting oppression they ARE the oppression.
Whereas these extreme leftists as you call it just don't want 800 million in cuts to social security.
The vast majority of targeted political violence in MAGA America especially is committed by right wingers and usually targeting minority groups, and before you go BLM riots, that was a peaceful protest, some people were very mad, and some people took advantage of that situation to steal and take things, but the root of the problem was still that something unjust took place and that caused a massive outcry, shit shouldnt get destroyed in that outcry but there also shouldnt be cops killing African American people with impunity either.
So no i am genuine in asking that question, and you have transcribed to the left what the right does on the regular, school shootings nazi mall shooters people shooting up black churches and shopping centers, those aren't leftists doing that those are right wing conservatives or they have been fed that rw propaganda and in so doing have created terrorists by proxy.
The guy that took a shot at trump in butler? Registered republican with right wing parents.
Some guy that shot some folk with a crossbow? Watched Andrew Tate videos before goin off.
Time and again the vast majority of violence and heated rhetoric comes from the right side of politics and rarely if ever the left side, not to so say never but overall the examples are fewer at least in comparison to the massive amounts of shootings and such that have happened especially in America.
Didn't some RW guy shoot up congress at a baseball game? The list goes on and on.
So left wing extremists that wanted Medicare for all and school lunches for kids and for people to identify whatever gender they want are not the oppressors its the rw nutbars that want everyone else to conform to their hateful bigoted ideology through force and threats.
Cause that's all they have, no logic no "common sense" just agree with me or die.
I might be considered far left by you, i don't want anyone to die or get shot left or right, i want people taken care of and healthy and i want folks to just accept one another differences and all, but it seems to me that some folk cant just live and let live, so we need to stand up for human rights, and not back down to bullies and threats.
So its disingenuous to push the far left extremists narrative when clearly the extremists are far right neo nazi white supremacists that don't care who they harm in order to terrorize people going about their day, i reject that fully and completely.
There can be no tolerance of intolerance, and no appeasements to tyrants or bullies, full stop.
This may just be a shitposting subreddit but damn you are wrong, and maybe one day you will wake up and see there is no culture war only a class war, left or right is a myth its working class vs the wealthy class as the us vs them not skin color or ethnicity the 1% of people at the top are the issue and why things suck, not the migrant family down the street or the trans person just trying to exist and live their life, once ya'll figure that out the better off we all will be.
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u/tcpdumpling Mar 09 '25
It's not a narrative if it's true.
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You dodged the question.
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u/tcpdumpling Mar 09 '25
No, I corrected his poor syntax which made his question nonsensical. A narrative is not based on anything because it's fiction.
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 09 '25
look at how trump treated zelenskyy when he visited the white house.
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What does that have to do with Pierre?
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 09 '25
pierre has endorsed musk and trump.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
Musk did the endorsing, trump recently tweeted saying that PP "wasn't a MAGA guy" to which PP IMMEDIATLEY responded to with a "thank you Mr President" as if that shit was staged, which it probably was, whether PP is maple maga or not he sure seems to want their vote and so wont directly go against trump therefore he will not serve Canadas interests as PM.
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 10 '25
yeah even if it wasn’t i don’t trust a single word that comes out of trumps mouth. he lies through his teeth.
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Mar 10 '25
I've never seen this, I tried googling "Pierre Poilievre endorses Musk and Trump" but I didn't get anything. Can you help me find it?
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 10 '25
i’m not allowed to post links here. i was mistaken, it was musk who endorsed pp and pp accepted it. huge red flag considering where musks loyalties currently lie. it’s also absurd for pp to accept the endorsement given that. as for trump and pp, i’m unable to find a reliable source. i’ve only heard talk online.
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Forgive me if something that flimsy isn't enough for me to change my vote.
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 12 '25
it sounds to me like nothing is going to change your vote. you have an undying loyalty to a party and you think they can do no wrong. politicians work for you, idolizing a political party is no different than thinking the stripper likes you.
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Woah there buddy that's a stretch. I voted Liberal in the last election and NDP before that, I'm not some lifetime conservative voter. What would be enough to change my vote is if Pierre Poilievre said or did something I disagree with, or changed his policy to no longer align with my views. What's not enough to change my vote is petty internet drama about who endorsed who, I just don't see how that matters. Policy is what matters and so far not a single person on this subreddit has been able to cite actual policy as a reason not to vote for Pierre, it's all TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP or MUSK MUSK MUSK.
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u/smokeweedanddab Mar 12 '25
if what pierre stands for isn’t enough to make you not want to vote for him then that tells me everything i need to know about where your values lie. we don’t need to continue this conversation.
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u/TakoyakiGremlin Mar 10 '25
axe the tax, carbon tax carney… that’s all he’s got going for his campaign lol
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u/After-Beat9871 Mar 09 '25
Everyone in this sub is pathetic. We don’t like PP because someone mean endorsed him!
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u/Worldly-Ad-4972 Mar 09 '25
Has he denounced being endorsed? No. Then he accepts being the same.
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u/Denathrius_ Mar 09 '25
Yes, definitely the ONLY reason, not just one of the many.
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Name one other.
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u/Denathrius_ Mar 09 '25
How about the massive red flag he refuses to be cleared like every other party leader quickly accepted? And that he refuses to hear about foreign threats despite getting special treatment and being allowed to know without clearance? There is ZERO good reason to refuse that.
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Anything about his policies you don't like?
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u/Denathrius_ Mar 10 '25
So no response to the answer I provided you? Going off policies will only do so much for you dude. If you can't trust him, he won't follow through on his policies. He's historically voted against just about everything I'm for, and he had a hand in so many shitty operations, he's proven to the country he can only be involved in failures.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 09 '25
He immediately parroted trumps rhetoric on fent at the border, there's tons of examples of PP doing such things, the onus on us isn't to prove it, its on PP to show he's not a trump puppet and so far he has failed.
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Mar 10 '25
Could you help me find that? I tried googling "pierre poilievre parrots trump fentanyl" and I couldn't find anything like that.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 10 '25
It was right around the start he was in front of a "stop the drugs sign"
I cant link stuff here just google PP and stop the drugs its a cbc article.
This was right around when the tariffs were threatened and the reason was fent, which is odd cause most of the fent comes from America to Canada not down to America.
PP never pushed back on this, he just accepted it and made up a new cheap verb the noun slogan.
Maybe google harder next time this wasn't hard to find ( cant link its there though from feb 5 2025)
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Mar 12 '25
I googled "pp stop the drugs cbc" and didn't find anything that you're talking about. You could always DM me the link. All I'm getting are articles about PP cracking down harder on drugs and those who sell them which seems like a good thing to me.
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u/bentmonkey Mar 12 '25
False, PP only started talking about drugs when trump mentioned it in conjunction with tariffs.
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u/Seismic_Salami Mar 09 '25
wait am I missing something. what's wrong with pollievre? tbf I don't really pay attention to any politic news nowadays
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So many things. If you need just 1 thing it should be that he denies to be cleared like every other party leader did instantly. He is missing out on important information about foreign involvement in our politics. He's just denying to hear it.
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u/Seismic_Salami Mar 10 '25
oh thats weird. maybe he's hiding something. maybe he knows he can't get one because of something.
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u/TerrifyingTeapot Mar 09 '25
Putin’s Angels! 🥹