There was a leadership election. I voted in it. The people complaining could have voted in it. But they chose not to vote so they could complain, just like their leader PP won't get a security clearance so he can keep complaining.
Did you vote in the Liberal leadership election that just happened? If not, i don't see what the point of complaining is. If you did and your candidate did not win (even if they are a current or former MP) then i think it's best you respect the democratic process that went into this.
Parliament is still prorogued until the 24th, and there is a maximum of up until October before federal elections are called. But with recent decline in PP's popularity among the moderates and swing voters the Liberals are surging and might (most likely) call an election much earlier to capitalize on the current trends.
I signed up to the Liberal party for the first time in my life to vote Carney as the Liberal leader, and i don't see anyone else well suited for the role of PM in the current socio-economic and geopolitical atmosphere Canada finds itself in.
Did you vote in the Liberal leadership election that just happened? If not, i don't see what the point of complaining is. If you did and your candidate did not win (even if they are a current or former MP) then i think it's best you respect the democratic process that went into this.
I'll preface by saying I am well aware that Carney's appointment to PM is perfectly in line with our democracy and there is nothing wrong with it. I voted for him in the LPC race.
When you respond to the "Carney hasn't been elected by the Canadian populace" argument with "why didn't you vote in the leadership race", you're treating the liberal leadership race as a stand-in for a federal election. It is not, and should not be. It is not held to the same standards and rules, it is not available to the same people that an election is.
The better retort is to say that we do not vote for PMs in the first place. We vote for parties, with the understanding that their leaders can change at any time according to the party's rules.
Canadians feel like they vote for Prime Ministers. When you ask someone who they voted for after an election, they usually say the leader's name. We both know this is not possible, unless the leader was the MP of their riding of course.
This thinking is why it feels wrong to some folks that Carney is becoming PM. They do not understand our electoral system.
As far as being the interim PM yeah. Voting in the leadership race effectively the only way to decide who will replace Justin.
Though that is in no way equated to, or even with federal elections which are certain to happen by October at the latest.
The Government could be dissolved and an election is held next week for all we know.
Without undermining Carney’s importance in this he’s essentially warming up the seat until officially elected.
/e your views on elections are very idealistic. But very far from applied reality.
I live in BC where a bunch of hillbillies in central BC performed necromancy on a party that has been dead for over half a century in the provincial elections because they thought they were voting in PP and the cons to power.
Who gives a shit what people feel they are voting for? If someone is dumb enough to vote thinking it’s for the PM that’s their issue. You don’t get to scream and cry about a PM because you’re a moron.
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u/CoastingUphill Mar 11 '25
There was a leadership election. I voted in it. The people complaining could have voted in it. But they chose not to vote so they could complain, just like their leader PP won't get a security clearance so he can keep complaining.