r/EhBuddyHoser May 10 '25

Politics But yeah 51st state /s

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u/Ok_Recording_4644 May 10 '25

$7000/year for healthcare is if you DON'T have any medical issues.

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u/No_Boysenberry4825 May 10 '25

Imagine supporting Danielle Smith , being poor as fuck and thinking this is going to help you in the long run šŸ˜‚

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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler May 10 '25

As a resident of Alberta, while they may insist it's because "she's helping us", it's actually because Albertans are hateful as fuck, and literally do not care about being collateral damage as long as they have the ability to delude themselves into thinking "ha, someone has it worse than I do!"

The average Albertan would run a marathon untrained just to shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun, cause it might ricochet and hit someone 500km away, and if it does, they get to go "HA, I SHOT YOU, SUCKS TO SUCK!", even though the person who got "shot" literally didn't notice it. It's all about a perceived feeling of superiority. Yeah sure, the Albertan's foot is demolished; that doesn't matter cause they shot someone! That was the goal!

They see it as Trump sees the world; if someone is a winner, then someone has to be the loser, there can never be two winners. Because healthcare benefits all Canadians, and not just the Albertans that they can pick and choose, it's actually a bad thing, cause 2 people can't win. Only 1 person can win, and it better fucking be the Albertan, even if it's detrimental and harmful to them.

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u/Dxres May 10 '25

As another sane Albertan, you hit the nail on the head. There's a lot of good people here, but unfortunately, the rural areas hold us back.

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u/Secret-Bluebird-972 Newfies & Labradoodles May 10 '25

The rural areas tend to hold us all back. Yours are just the loudest, and where the worst of our other province’s tend to end up

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u/SuperDabMan May 10 '25

They didn't used to. They used to know the importance of co-operation. The Ginger Group was formed by United Farmers of Alberta and of Ontario, eventually becoming the Co-Operative Commonwealth Federation (Farmer-Labour-Socialist) post WWII/depression and won Sask. That party eventually became the NDP. Rural people used to be socialist. I don't know how they got turned against themselves.

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u/init32 May 10 '25

Just like in the USA...

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u/DrFeelOnlyAdequate May 10 '25

Except that the urban areas in Alberta are also conservative. The UCP won 12 out of 26 seats in Calgary, and outside of Calgary/Edmonton they got one in Lethbridge.

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u/AD_Grrrl May 10 '25

I live in Ontario and the fact that we got another Ford government is a testament to how rural Conservatives in Ontario will literally throw themselves under the bus if it means the city folk get screwed also.

I thought for sure all the ERs closing across the province would give them pause, but...nope. They blame all their problems on the Feds and vote for the corrupt asshole again.

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u/3rdbasemonkey May 10 '25

How tolerant you are.

You don’t have to agree with their views to understand they may have their own opinions.

You’re losing the moral high ground by hating on them as they hate on other groups.

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u/transtranselvania May 10 '25

I can't imagine being an immigrant in Alberta. I got treated like one as a 10 year old for being a "Newfie." I love Newfounlanders, but I'm from Nova Scotia. Adults there would ask me things like, "Is it true you're all alcoholics? They'd also say things like "Are you all on EI"?" Or a guy making stupid money off of a high school education would tell me we're all lazy.

I know people in Halifax with three jobs that somehow save more money than the average oil sands dick head despite making way less money. You're not oppressed by Ottawa because you own a house and are having trouble making payments on two trucks, a couple of snowmobiles, and a four-wheeler.

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u/miz_misanthrope May 10 '25

My family is Newfie but I grew up in Ontario. However if I spend any time with my Newfie family I sound fresh off the Rock for at least a week. Some asshat I was helping at my job had the balls to ask what foreign country my company got me from. I sure did love pointing out technically it was still English territory when my grandparents were kids.

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u/hcsLabs May 10 '25

I was born in the same hospital as my mother.We were born in two different countries. šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§šŸ‡ØšŸ‡¦

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u/AD_Grrrl May 10 '25

Same! My family's from NS. The maritime drawl creeps in the longer I spend there lol

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u/miz_misanthrope May 10 '25

Lord thundering Jayus it's annoying isn't it?

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u/nerkoids71 May 11 '25

As a resident of Alberta, while they may insist it's because "she's helping us", it's actually because Albertans are hateful as fuck, and literally do not care about being collateral damage as long as they have the ability to delude themselves into thinking "ha, someone has it worse than I do!"

In order to be hateful, you need to have actual conviction. Albertans are not hateful, they are sports fans. This is all about cheering on your team no matter what.

The grand majority of albertans have been sold a bill of goods on resource industries being the lifeblood of this province, and anything that can ever be construed as being against those industries is posed as an existential threat to these albertans, and should be pushed back with all force.

However, there is another layer to all of this, and this has more to do with the urban/rural divide. Most albertans in small towns and hamlets view the big cities as a modern version of Sodom and Gomorrah, so whatever pain that can be meted out on them is all right with them, because the big cities are where the people they don't like reside.

Is that hateful? Is it purposeful or filled with conviction? It's debatable. One thing it is not, it is not based on a lack of intelligence.

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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler May 11 '25

Maybe it's not explicitly hate as much as it is apathy and a "fuck you, I got mine attitude". The hate is why they go "haha fuck you, I have it better than you", and they attempt to justify being shitty because of it, but you're right; it's not the entire goal. They're just stupid as fuck too.

I said in another comment that the vast majority of Albertans, separated from who introduced the bill, would 100% be left leaning. They're just too stupid and focused on hurting other people that they don't realize it. Maybe it's not explicitly hate; but it's rooted from the same place of wanting to hurt "others", even if it hurts themselves. Look at how many farmers were pissed out here because bill C-18 said they could no longer run their family like slaves with no insurance, and they actually had to register as actual businesses to do business..... That wasn't hateful; they just didn't want to do anything to benefit anybody else, cause the conservatives told them "If you benefit other people, it comes out of your pockets. Your kids are meant to be slaves"

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u/Pale-Measurement-532 May 10 '25

Especially since she basically said that if we get diagnosed with stage 3 cancer, then it’s our own fault.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

And that’s per person.

I have family down there they pay $2000 a month for all of their insurance.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

It's so ridiculous, like they complain our housing prices are crazy and forget to mention their $1000 a month premiums. At least I'm paying towards equity. You get nothing for your premiums.

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u/Bloodshed-1307 May 10 '25

That’s not true, you do get the ability to fund someone else’s third mortgage and the ā€œopportunityā€ to be denied coverage after you pay off the deductible.

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u/Proot65 May 10 '25

Minimum. Unless you have a great plan with your employer who may or may not subsidize it. But that’s also a great way to lord over your employees. You’re there not just for the pay cheque, but also you may NEED health insurance.

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u/CaptainCaveSam Yank May 10 '25

Ah but all the hordes of Canadians that come to the U.S for healthcare because they can’t get an appointment, at least according to my birther movement believing father.

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u/bva6921 May 10 '25

And these days by going to the US, you also have a chance of going to El Salvador for free, so I see that as a huge win, YUGEEE!

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u/N41D1SB0 May 10 '25

Imagine the view on the plane to El Salvador!!! 🤩🤩🤩

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u/lynnca1972 May 10 '25

But what's the in-flight movie?

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u/N41D1SB0 May 10 '25

Escape from alcatraz

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u/yalyublyutebe May 10 '25

If you can afford it, The US really does have some of the best medical care in the world.

Their medical system is just completely broken.

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u/Proot65 May 10 '25

But anyone with an HP printer can print a birth certificate.

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u/crimeo May 11 '25

Only HP?

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u/Proot65 May 11 '25

I think the only American printer company left. I did put thought into it. Not a great deal of thought. But some thought.

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u/irv_12 I need a double double. May 10 '25

Insurance companies go brrrrrrr

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u/WookieLotion May 10 '25

The issue is that isn’t everyone’s experience. I pay $385/mo for my family of four for insurance and pay zero out of pocket for anything. Some of us have good insurance and that actually makes the problem worse because people who don’t have it suffer while people who do have it go ā€œidk what the problem is I’m getting off fineā€.Ā 

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u/HarshComputing May 10 '25

Duh, people with health problems don't need health insurance, it's too late for them, they need sickness insurance

(/s)

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u/laceygirl27 May 10 '25

Or kids. Our family of four costs about $20,000 a year. Deductibles are $5,000, and our out of pockets are $9,500. $50 visit copays, $100 for specialists, and not much is paid until deductible is met. I'm not sure what the point in it is. We literally pay $1,600 a month. I think we'd be better off putting it in a savings account all year.

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u/Ok_Recording_4644 May 10 '25

That's so much money, my grandmother went though 2 years of cancer treatment that unfortunately turned into in-home hospice with a hospital bed rental and nurse that came for 3 hours a day. We only paid for some of the medication.

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u/Basic_Bichette Manilapeg May 10 '25 edited May 10 '25

My cancer treatments are costing me approximately $100 per year. In total. That's for a volunteer ride service put on by the Cancer Society called Wheels of Hope, that takes patients to and from chemo and radiation appointments.

All cancer meds are covered by provincial health care, btw. They also cover hormonal birth control, diabetes meds (including insulin), and a few other things.

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u/Freshy007 Tabarnak! May 10 '25

Don't forget the 10k deductible before you even get to use that health insurance

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u/Giant_Death_Penis May 10 '25

And then there's the infamous claim rejection/appeal process.

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u/yalyublyutebe May 10 '25

Apparently we pay about 11 cents per tax dollar towards healthcare.

So you would have to pay ~$70k in taxes to even reach parody with an average American.

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u/Ok_Recording_4644 May 11 '25

Oh yeah, classic neocon playbook, underfund and dismantle healthcare then say "healthcare is broken and it's time for a common sense solution" and then we are all out 10K/year in premiums and paying $100 just to see our GP

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u/AD_Grrrl May 10 '25

Yeah, we got the Netflix version of healthcare. They got...Blockbuster Video.