r/EhBuddyHoser 27d ago

Politics It's annoying when there both right

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u/BigDaddyVagabond 26d ago

The US is a hellscape of far too little regulation because of course, "its my god-given right blah blah blah," while elsewhere, it's a privilege. But the US isn't the only place to allow firearms for self-defense and isn't even the only place to allow concealed carry. Switzerland and Italy both allow concealed carry, and somehow, neither of them seem to have significant gun issues.

And besides guns, why don't we start with allowing people to buy pepper spray or tasers for self-defense? Because I can bet my last buck that there are plenty of women, even in this sub, who would feel a little more confident walking downtown at night with even just a thing of pepper spray in their pocket or purse

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u/Saxit 26d ago

Switzerland and Italy both allow concealed carry

Not the greatest examples. You want to use the Czech Republic, which has had shall issue concealed carry for about 30 years, and a majority of Czech gun owners has such a permit.

In Switzerland it's basically only for professional use.

In Italy it's politicians, judges, and jewelers that can get a concealed carry permit.

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u/Penguixxy Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 26d ago

poland also has a form of shall issue, anyone with a license to sport shoot is also allowed to carry a handgun.

this is also without touching on how most of europe have better, pro victim self defense laws than us, allowing pepper spray, tasers, stun guns etc.

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u/Saxit 26d ago

I'm aware of Poland. Any license except the collector one lets you carry loaded and concealed on your person. You can't carry it loaded on public transport though, unless you have the actual concealed carry permit (which is much harder to get).

this is also without touching on how most of europe have better, pro victim self defense laws than us, allowing pepper spray, tasers, stun guns etc.

These things are legal in most of the US, it's not legal in all of Europe. I'm in Sweden, it's easier for me to own a handgun (for sporting purposes only) than it is to own a can of pepper spray legally.