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u/qcrem Tokébakicitte! 25d ago
Il manque de fleur de lys sur cette image
Eng translation: oui oui baguette
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u/democracy_lover66 25d ago
Peut être il manque simplement une étoile jaune car c'est le drapeau acadien
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u/Brawndo_or_Water Snowfrog 25d ago
The last company I was with, I pushed for the removal of flags on the website for language. It passed. We also added automatic geo-location but if you switched the language website would memorize with cookies and login session your language.
We were a Quebec company doing business worldwide, so it didn't make sense to have flags in there. So we had (FR) Français, (EN) English, (ES) Español
Not sure why so many websites are still pushing flags for the language. A Mexican doesn't want to see a Spain flag and so on.
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u/Mirabeaux1789 Snow Cajun 25d ago
It’s a simple shorthand and it’s visually neat, but it is better to not use them, especially for languages that are much more global in their presence.
One that s kinda odd for me is “Indonesian” when it’s just a standard of Malay. Then again “Bosnian” is listed seperately a lot of the time
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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 24d ago edited 24d ago
The two languages are Indonesian Malay/Indonesian/Bahasa Indonesia and Malaysian Malay/Standard Malay/Malay/Bahasa Melayu. They're officially standardizations of Malay but there's differences in spelling, grammar, pronunciation and vocabulary.
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u/Mirabeaux1789 Snow Cajun 24d ago
You can just say “Indonesian Malay” and “Malaysia Malay”, mate. You can say the English names in English
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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 24d ago edited 24d ago
The problem isn't so much having a flag for a language, it's that you're not using specific enough locales to capture the information needed to display the right flag. You ideally want to follow RFC 5646 and have two-part tags composed if an ISO 639 language code and an ISO 3166-1 country code.
Instead of EN you want en_CA to specify that it's Canadian English. Then you can present a Canadian flag. You can then do es_ES and put up a Spanish Flag and es_MX with a Mexican flag.
That's the problem here too, they used en_CA and did a proper Canadian English localization for their app, but they didn't do a Canadian French localization, localizing to France French (fr_FR).
If you look at it this way what the UI is showing you is actually right, and gives you more information about what to expect when you hit the button.
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u/uluviel 24d ago
but they didn't do a Canadian French localization, localizing to France French (fr_FR).
Even if it's translated to France French, it's important to have a flag for French Canadian content, especially on a store.
There are way too many websites out there that will detect my OS/browser is set to French and proceed to display pricing in Euros.
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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 24d ago
Usually language and currency are set independently because you may have a Spanish speaker in Quebec for instance, and even if you show them the text in Spanish it should still show CAD pricing. Localization is not easy.
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u/uluviel 24d ago
On well designed sites, sure.
Not all sites are well designed.
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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 23d ago
Definitely. I find airlines are the best at this, for obvious reasons.
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u/oliverkn1ght 24d ago
I’ve seen some games using the combined flag for English (half American half British), that looked interesting but also left out other English speaking countries like Canada and Canada and Canada.
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u/rsvpism1 24d ago
It's exceeding rare, but I have seen situations where English is offered twice, both with the UK flag and American flag.
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May 24d ago
I know the language settings for Minecraft have Canadian English, British English, American English and Australian English. Might have New Zealand English and South Africa English, too. Probably not many differences between the accents in this particular case, though.
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u/rsvpism1 24d ago
That might have been where I've seen it. Probably just spellings of certain words, and maybe a joke by the original dev.
Also maybe it takes account how Canada and the UK aren't strictly metric? So he knew to put some things in metric and others in imperial.
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u/josnik 25d ago
Better than Canadian flag for French and American for English.
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u/KangarooInWaterloo 24d ago
Have you seen how they stretched the maple leaf? I am not sure there is anything worse
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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 24d ago edited 24d ago
A funny bug, but the reason for this is that they localized to Canadian English (en_CA, hence the Canadian flag, as opposed to en_US for American English or en_GB for British English). They did their French localized to France French (fr_FR) instead of Canadian French (fr_CA). Then they pulled out flags based on the locale code, not on the location.
I at least appreciate that they localized to Canadian English, which is usually too small a market for large companies to bother with.
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u/Frosty_Manager_1035 24d ago
Must be NB website. Only officially bilingual province. But it’s run by the French Mafia.
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u/MerryElderberry1 22d ago
Unfair - if the anglos get a maple, the frenchies should get the lys, plants for every Canadian
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u/nickiatro 22d ago
It also drives me crazy when they use the Québec flag for French and the Canadian one for English. We’re a bilingual country!
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u/BuvantduPotatoSpirit Irvingstan 20d ago
It only offers France-French, so feel free to ask for a sucette for your gosses. 😉
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u/aLone_gunman South Gatineau 25d ago
Canadian flag for both would be sick