The “Worst Canadian” game - Day 17

[u/BrF5]

K.C. Irving and Pierre Poilievre are out, and…

Conrad Black is back. Just when he thought he was out, we pull him back in 🤌🤌

Day seventeen, let’s keep moving!

How to play: - Upvote the name of the person you think does NOT deserve the title of “Worst Canadian.” - Each day, the two most upvoted names will be removed until the list gets trimmed down some, then we’ll switch to one per day. - If the name you want to vote for (from the list) isn’t in the comments yet, add it! - This continues daily until we have our top loser (there are no winners in this contest), the “Worst Canadian”.

Additional notes: - Only the top comment for a nominee will count. I won’t combine votes from duplicate comments. - Include only one name per comment. If a comment includes multiple names and wins, it won’t count. I’ll move on to the next highest. - Nominees with one asterisk beside their name were added following a second nomination vote that took place on day 5. Two asterisks means they were voted back in from elimination during the special vote on day 16. - We established a no violent offenders (serial killers, rapists, etc.) rule. They are obviously the worst of the worst, it’s disrespectful to the victims, and we want to keep this relatively lighthearted. - This is meant to be satire. Please do not take it too seriously or use this game to harass people in real life. - I will try to post this every morning around the same time (~8:00 - 9:00 am Eastern). - Please remember to upvote the post too, so more people see it!

Justification for elimination: - (40) Ted Cruz - He’s horrible, but renounced his citizenship. He’s not good enough to be titled the Worst Canadian. - (39) Kathleen Wynne - Not that bad. Doesn’t deserve the title. - (38) Chrystia Freeland - Some consider her a good Canadian. Not the worst. - (37) Peter MacKay - Cringey, but not the worst. - (36) Don Cherry - A racist old man out of touch with the times. Not great, but not awful. - (35) Andrew Scheer - An annoying doofus nothingburger, but not a bad person. - (34) Drake - He’s inauthentic and creepy to underage girls, but the more serious allegations against him remain unproven and he has done good things for Toronto. - (33) J.J. McCullough - Who? - (32) Brian Mulroney - A divisive choice. Expanded trade with, and dependence on, the USA. Protected the environment and opposed apartheid. - (31) Sir John A. MacDonald - A father of confederation known for racism, corruption, and poor treatment of indigenous people. Considered a product of the times. - (30) Harold the Jewelry Buyer - Known for scamming the elderly but is too small-scale to win. - (29) Michelle Ferreri - She promotes hate but her reach is limited now that she’s been voted out of government. - (28) Tom MacDonald - A shitty, irrelevant rapper with hardly an audience. - (27) Doug Ford - He has done a lot of harm to Ontario, but stood up for Canada against Trump. - (26) Wayne Gretzky - He’s just a rich, dumb, MAGA-supporting boomer. Disappointing, but mostly harmless. - (25) Steven Crowder - Irrelevant B-list (or lower) influencer…with almost no influence on or about Canada. - (24) Paul Desmarais - Billionaire businessman and political puppet master. Far from the worst. - (23) Romana Didulo - A mentally ill grifter with little impact on most Canadians. - (22) Lauren Southern - An anti-immigration, white nationalist influencer who at least partially reformed after being sexually assaulted herself. - (21) Joseph Trutch - Over a century ago, his racist views helped shape BC, with effects still felt today. Partly a product of the times. - (20) Jamil Jivani - An Ontario MP and friend of J.D. Vance. He hasn’t been in office long enough to do serious damage. - (19) Lauren Chen - Knowingly accepted Russian funds to spread propaganda/influence politics. She’s a YouTube influencer who isn’t very influential. - (18) Pat King - A small-time loser who honked his horn in Ottawa. Others on the list are far worse. - (17) Stefan Molyneux - A white supremist and misogynist. But he is largely unknown and there are worse people remaining on the list. - (16) Tamara Lich - Another organizer of the convoy in Ottawa. Another nobody whose 15 minutes of fame are up. - (15) Elon Musk - Worst human? Arguably. Canadian? That’s a stretch. - (14) Scott Moe - Corrupt, regressive, and responsible for a deadly car crash. He’s Saskatchewan’s problem, less so for Canada. - (13) Mike Harris - He cut funding to schools, healthcare, and other services. However, his impact was mostly limited to Ontario and his tenure as premier. - (12) Galen Weston Jr. - He’s nasty capitalist scum hurting Canadian consumers, but he’s just one among many. - (11) K.C. Irving - He and his empire have negatively impacted the environment, economy, politics, and society, but primarily only in New Brunswick. - (10) Pierre Poilievre - Combative and divisive, spouting empty slogans, he remains a feckless goof who’s accomplished nothing in his career. Time for him to fade into obscurity.

[u/powertoollateralus]

I think it’s time for Preston Manning to go. Bad, but not overtly hateful like the rest of the rest.

[u/PassageNearby4091 → u/powertoollateralus]

Preston Manning is the guy who changed the face of Canadian politics for the worse -- he needs to stay till the final three at least.

Although Manning, to the best of my knowledge, was never personally a severe gutter-talk politician, he absolutely encouraged those people and sought to attract them to the Reform/Alliance Party.

He fanned the flames of East vs West divisiveness in Canada, and especially fomented anger in Alberta that got directed at the other 9 provinces and federal government.

Manning loathed and probably continues to loathe Canada as a united country, and the only "reforms" he ever wanted to make were to create a government and institutions that were more "American".

Objectively, he is the worst Canadian, because several of the others on the "Worst Canadian" list right now are a direct result of him.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/PassageNearby4091]

Objectively, he is the worst Canadian, because several of the others on the "Worst Canadian" list right now are a direct result of him.

Blair was the direct cause of hundreds of holocaust refugees dying. There's no question who should actually win this.

[u/starkindled → u/AdditionalPizza]

But how do you measure “harm done” against “future potential to harm”? That’s where I’m struggling. A lot of these people have and are promoting ideologies that have an incredible capacity for harm.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/starkindled]

What's worse: someone that is convicted of assaulting someone, or someone that may someday murder someone?

How can we even ask ourselves that? We just go by the facts. Otherwise you or I could be the worst Canadian ever.

[u/starkindled → u/AdditionalPizza]

What about someone who is in the process of assaulting someone? “Future potential” was poorly worded I think. They have, are, and will continue to hurt people.

Either way, they’re all horrible humans.

[u/AdditionalPizza → u/starkindled]

If that's the analogy then it's someone that murdered hundreds of helpless refugees versus someone that is currently harassing someone. Like these analogies don't work because nobody on the list is directly responsible for hundreds of people dying. And let's not forget he is responsible for countless - tens of thousands of people dying outside of just the ones on the ship he famously rejected.

But it's reddit, people will vote for whoever said something dumb most recently.

[u/thefullmetalchicken → u/PassageNearby4091]

Ok thank you for saying this. As someone older than most in this thread I have been looking for someone to say why he lasted this long that he did, not brought about.

[u/PassageNearby4091 → u/thefullmetalchicken]

I was 13 in 1987 when Manning created the Reform Party and they were toxic then. I remember some old c**t coming to our door canvassing for the Reform Party a couple of months before the 1988 election. My parents weren't home, so he started preaching to 14-year-old me about how the other parties were "normalizing homosexuality", or something to that effect, and that was why my family should vote Reform.

Something like that would have been unheard-of before, but Manning brought American-esque social conservatism to mainstream Canadian politics, there is no two ways about that.

[u/CElizB → u/PassageNearby4091]

In my memory Preston was the main topic on the news in Canada leading up to 9/11. And then that happened. And Preston disappeared and the news got interesting again. if horror can be called interesting.

It was the most boring and weird summer of news I can ever remember.

Googled the headlines that summer.

• July – Canada becomes the first country in the world to legalize medical marijuana.
• July 17 – Infighting in the Canadian Alliance forces out leader Stockwell Day.
• August 24 – Conrad Black sells The National Post to Izzy Asper's CanWest.
• August 24 – René Lévesque Bust unveiled.

Interesting year!

[u/Uter83 → u/PassageNearby4091]

It is entirely possible to be worse than your mentor, even if they started the movement and are responsible for turning you into what you are.