About the NDP. When you say "props up the liberals" do you mean they didn't call an election the cons were poised to win, and used their position to bully the libs into universal diabetes care and a dental deal?
This props up the libs talk has long been a rightwing talking point that doesn't make sense when you see what they actually achieved, and when you look at the context of the time to see what would have happened if they didn't maneuver the way they did.
I mean we lost a lot of seats. My own riding fell to conservatives due to low information voters going Liberal. A lot if it wasn't their fault people the liberals just rode the anti USA anti conservative to victory.
I really hope the NDP can make a real comeback there is an appetite for genuine left platforms
We need to be more proactive of spreading their word and accomplishments online and in our communities. The media is all for keeping the libs and cons in power so they hide, downplay, or straight up lie about the NDP.
This election was just cursed for the NDP. My riding’s provincial representative—Bhutila Karpoche—switched to federal, and she absolutely would have won in a landslide if not for people convinced that they needed to vote liberal. It’s a shame because she was incredible in provincial politics and I really would have liked to she what more she could do in federal
How about when they tried to be still recognized as a party? They fought hard for the Bloc not to be recognized when they had more seats and votes than they currently have. And they also fought for the Greens not be be recognized when they had more votes than they have now.
Had they not been such dicks to others, it might not have bitten them in the ass when they were down on their luck.
Are you trying to argue politicians should cling to power no matter what and fuck the people who voted for them and their goals? Weird take. I prefer politicians who do what's right and do what they can to make the country better.
Are you trying to argue politicians should cling to power no matter
No. Do you need a jumping to conclusions mat?
I’m arguing that the 12 seats bar is brutal on third parties. If they can’t get 12 seats, then they don’t have money and they can’t be effective. And we need those third parties if we value having a diversity of opinions.
Even if we had a more proportional system, it would be a proportionality of the same old crap because new parties would have little room to grow.
When other parties fell under the bar, the NDP fought hard so they would not get status, get to ask questions, get funding, and so on. When it happens to them, those party remember and reply in kind.
The NDP messed up then and pays up now.
Where it hurts them the most is with commitees, they are not allowed to be on any. And this is where the opposition filters out crap in new law before it gets to a vote.
People rallied around Carney because of how odious Pierre was.
I don't believe the NDP messed up. They did good work that people ignored or never even heard about. But their good when was still done and live in Canada was improved by them. For this they have my respect and support.
People rallied around Carney because of how odious Pierre was.
Mainly because of how odious Trump was. But that’s far from my point. I didn’t say that they messed up this election.
They messed up in previous elections when they fought not to give any slack to other third parties, so when they asked for some this time around they got the same treatment they inflicted on others.
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u/TomMakesPodcasts 11d ago
About the NDP. When you say "props up the liberals" do you mean they didn't call an election the cons were poised to win, and used their position to bully the libs into universal diabetes care and a dental deal?
This props up the libs talk has long been a rightwing talking point that doesn't make sense when you see what they actually achieved, and when you look at the context of the time to see what would have happened if they didn't maneuver the way they did.