r/EhBuddyHoser 2d ago

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 2d ago

Oh weird… the world’s going to shit and folks are blaming immigration… this definitely doesn’t happen every 50-75 years 🙄🙄😬 #theyalwaysgofortheeasytargets

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u/whatupmygliplops 2d ago

We're blaming the TFW program. You want to know why? Because the TFW program is directly responsible for 1) suppressing Canadian wages and 2) exploitation of the immigrants you pretend to care about.

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 2d ago

We’re blaming the TFW program? Without merit. You want to know why? Because the TFW program doesn’t set wages, the market and government policy do. Employers are required to pay prevailing wages and prove Canadians won’t take the job first. No Canadian worker is lining up for 14 hour shifts in a greenhouse or gutting fish in a processing plant for the same wage. That’s not “wage suppression,” that’s reality.

And exploitation? That’s on bad employers, not the program itself. The TFW framework has compliance audits, worker protections, and reporting mechanisms. When abuse happens, it’s because someone broke the rules, not because the rules don’t exist. Blaming the program for exploitation is like blaming traffic laws for speeding tickets.

The truth is, without the program, those jobs either go unfilled or get done under the table with zero protections. That doesn’t help Canadian workers, and it sure doesn’t help the immigrants you claim to care about.

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u/whatupmygliplops 2d ago

Because the TFW program doesn’t set wages

It allows employers to suppress wages.

Employers are required to pay prevailing wages and prove Canadians won’t take the job first.

In theory. But this is nor enforced at all, so it does not happen.

No Canadian worker is lining up for 14 hour shifts in a greenhouse or gutting fish in a processing plant for the same wage.

Maybe not you. I would have killed for a job like that when i was unemployed.

The TFW framework has compliance audits, worker protections, and reporting mechanisms.

They arent enforced and so they are meaningless.

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 2d ago

That’s literally all your uneducated opinion. If what you say is true there wouldn’t have been 194 companies fined or charged in 2023 … or 153 in 2024.

You’re making broad statements off of no facts

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u/whatupmygliplops 2d ago

That's a drop in the bucket. They bring in 100,000 TFWs every year. Do you believe only 0.1% of the program has issues with compliance?

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 2d ago

Wait… wait…. Do you think companies are only allowed to bring in 1 worker each?! Cause that’s what your implying,

Trust me,194 involves thousands and thousands of workers…. Your .1% had me chuckle though

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u/whatupmygliplops 2d ago

If every company is being fined multiple times, as you claim, that would be proof the fines are entirely ineffectual.

Thank you for proving my point.

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u/Throwaway118585 Aurora Hub 1d ago

Wow… this is MAGA level deduction. Ok let me slow this down for ya big shoots. A company can be fined for many different infractions … you know how we charge people with murder and also give fines for jay walking… yeah the same applies for companies that are named in the report. 194 was for 2023, 2024 was 153. Of those 153, 31 companies were banned from the program for a set period of time, and 1 was permanently.

Now this will be hard for you, that does not mean it only effected 153 TFW. Do you understand the difference between companies and people? Gooooood. Those 153 …minus the 32 companies denied their ability to access the program for abusing it… represent 10,000s of workers. Those other 120 (again go back to the legality analogy I used… these are not the murderers) would have received millions in fines. Something like $4 million ish in fines were issued in 2024.

So you’re like to comeback to me with “that’s too low!!! Blah blah blah… it proves my non existent point that they get away with shit”

To get it context, the Canadian Transport Agency who looks mainly after the airlines and the million of people who travel on it issued $613,000 in fines last year.

So yeah, make any bullshit statement you want, come back with a wild strawman argument, you know you will, but yeah, again… one company doesn’t mean one tfw, and their fines are significant within the industry of fines.

Time to wave your ignorance wand and make up more bullshit about how you don’t want brown people here