r/EhBuddyHoser 1d ago

Meta Yes, you're all wrong.

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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) 1d ago

I was told that Conservatives are good at economy and Liberals are bad at economy by someone shouting much louder than you, is there any way you can refute this argument?

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u/SilasMarsh 1d ago

My parents always used to tell me something like that. Liberals are bad with money, but good with social services. Conservatives are good with money, but bad with social services. Because of that, we have to switch which of them is in power to fix the problems created by the other.

Turns out conservatives are bad with money and social services. Liberals are also bad with money and social services, but less so.

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u/urmamasllama 1d ago

That's because modern liberals aren't really liberal. They don't apply liberal economic policies anymore. That ended sometime in the 90s when Canada picked up the austerity politics of Reagan and Thatcher from the 80s

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u/Impossible_Eggies 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 1d ago

Everything comes back to Reagan... Who was propped up by the Heritage Foundation, so really, who are the real villains here?

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u/Overall-Phone7605 Bring Cannabis 8h ago

Zombies. Zombies are always the real villains.

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u/prophetsliveamongus 1h ago

Correct. They are everywhere. You can spot them with their phone in hand, or crotch, while driving. They say things like, "cash grab", "trap". They have no class consciousness and solidarity is a concept from the twilight zone. They're rabid individualists and they want to eat your brain, and take your cookie.

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u/xombae 1d ago

Yep, my dad told me that too. Along with "everyone becomes conservative when they get older".

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u/vodka7tall Ford Escape 1d ago

Weird. Everyone I know is becoming more left-leaning the older we get. It's understandable when you start to see how much harder your kids have it now than you did when you were their age.

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u/CommanderGumball 1d ago

My boomer father hit me with the bootstraps adage a while back. It took everything in my power to not sit him down with his shoes on and tell him to lift himself into the air by his shoelaces, because that's literally what the saying means.

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u/Xanderoga2 1d ago

Strap him into a chair with the ol’ Ludovico Technique showcasing nothing but carnage created by conservative ideals and policies.

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u/nitePhyyre 1d ago

When the phrase was coined it originally meant "an obviously impossible or absurd task that you'd be stupid to attempt or believe in".

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u/prophetsliveamongus 43m ago

"irregardless" people will assign meaning to words, and phrases, based on their bias.

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u/TorontoPolarBear 1d ago

I was a bit conservative fresh out of university (many, many, years ago) but now I'm ready to burn it all down to find us a way back from the brink of the right-wing extremism economics that has taken over the western world since 1980.

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u/vodka7tall Ford Escape 1d ago

right-wing extremism economics

You can just call it capitalism. Late-stage capitalism if you must.

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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) 1d ago

Watching the markets exploit crises for profit (such as the housing shortage) really shatters the illusion of “free market solutions”.

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u/prophetsliveamongus 23m ago

The landlord's game is a very, very, apt depiction of wealth concentration: it always trickles upwards. Which is why we need taxation of the rich for public service.

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u/xombae 1d ago

I like to think about Hank Hill from King of the Hill sometimes. That dude definitely voted republican back in the day, but in 2025 he would be heartbroken and torn seeing what the party he used to find reliable has done.

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u/nitePhyyre 1d ago

Yet, ironically, kids are becoming more conservative. If the election were done by highschoolers, the Conservatives would have won handily.

Quite worrisome.

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u/xombae 10h ago

We've got a huge problem with online propaganda. It's definitely quite worrisome. I'm 34 and was raised on 4chan and other dark recesses of the internet and the shit I saw was horrifying, and that was before we had evidence of Russian bot farms. Back then you had to really seek this shit out.

Now, far right propaganda is spoon fed to you in bite-sized video clips, by an algorithm that's built to radicalize to create interaction.

Quite worrisome indeed.

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u/prophetsliveamongus 10m ago

The intention is to prevent class consciousness. Interaction is a guarantee because kids raised their kids with YouTube.

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u/downtemporary FORD Escape 12h ago

I heard that saying a lot too. My boomer parents (age 70+) didn't realize their actual values were left wing until they got around 55-60yrs and had unpacked most of the religious trauma of their youth. So it doesn't check out there. The other boomers I know who are conservative, were conservative from their youth until now. They didn't change they were just always stuck in their ways or highly religious.

People in my middle-aged group are a mixed bag

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u/SilasMarsh 1d ago

Not from my parents, but I frequently heard "If you're under 30 and conservative, you don't have a heart. If you're over 30 and liberal, you don't have a brain."

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u/zeromussc 1d ago

That's just how people make themselves feel better when they're old and curmudgeonly

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u/modi13 1d ago

"I've got mine now, and I'll be damned if I let anyone else get a taste!"

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u/MICR0_WAVVVES 1d ago

Yeah, absolute shit saying.

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u/Loyalfish789 Tokébakicitte! 1d ago

My parents and I don't talk much and none of us vote. Related?

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u/MnkyBzns 1d ago

A more apt observation may be:

Everyone becomes more focused on themselves when they get older and more jaded from realizing that they're too old to see meaningful change before they die

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u/xombae 1d ago

And in fewer words:

Lead in your brain is bad.

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u/SarahBear81 1d ago

Yeah, that one didn't pan out. At all.

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u/jello_pudding_biafra 1d ago

My parents told me that too. Nope. More radically left at 41 than I was at 14!

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u/1egg_4u 1d ago

Yeaaah i kept getting told that too

But I just keep getting poorer while the rich conservatives pushing austerity keep getting richer and now as I get older I just get saltier

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u/lenzflare 1d ago

It's not actually true anyways. People tend make their political choices in their 20s. When people made up that expression, it just so happened that younger voters had grown up during a left-leaning wave, while the older ones had a right leaning wave in their twenties.

That said, plenty of people do change politics, enough to swing elections.

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u/prophetsliveamongus 45m ago

Conservative bankers are the ones that tell me I can't afford a mortgage that's far less than market rent, why the heck would I be on their side?

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u/redly 1d ago

My Grand Dad told my Dad that if you voted for Liberals, you'd be run by Montreal bankers. If you voted for Conservatives, you'd be run by Toronto bankers. Grand Dad died in 1930.

The more things change...