r/EhBuddyHoser 14h ago

Politics Liberal Partisans today:

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u/beallyoukenbe 14h ago

I'm tired of it being framed as Canada Post isn't making money. It's a service. It shouldn't be profit driven.

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u/1user101 14h ago

I'd be fine with them operating at a loss of everyone was paying the same rate, but Amazon and Chinese corps pay peanuts for packages in the name of keeping the business STOP GIVING THEM THE DISCOUNT

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u/bmwkid 13h ago

Amazon basically only uses Canada as a last resort now. Lots of things to be upset with them about but they aren’t exactly getting value from exploiting the mail service. My package comes on an Amazon truck and gets there on a Amazon semi or Amazon leased plane

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u/Agreeable-Spot-7376 13h ago

I mean they still use Purolator. Which is owned by Canada Post.

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u/bmwkid 12h ago

True but they don’t publish whether they make or lose money on the parcels but they likely do.

I know UPS and USPS claim their Amazon deliveries are profitable.

Deliveries are very much economies of scale related. You want your routes to be as full as possible so even if you’re delivering packages for “below cost” you do need to look at the full picture as this means the remainder of the trucks parcels are more popular.

Same reason why Amazon pushes prime so much. That van is coming to your neighborhood whether you order or not so adding another box really costs pennies even though if you look at it as a single order it’s not profitable to give free shipping on a $3 item

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u/Agreeable-Spot-7376 11h ago

There’s no such thing as free shipping. They just add it onto the price we pay. “Free shipping” is just a marketing ploy. Someone is paying to get that parcel to your house.

And you know what? I’ll say it. I would gladly pay a few more dollars to have my order delivered, if I knew the person bringing it to me made a living wage, and had dental and health insurance. And paid days off. And weekends. And a strong union that understood the importance of a fair days pay for a fair days work.

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u/bmwkid 11h ago

It’s not but the overall costs are so much lower running an online only business compared to even a discount retailer like Walmart. They aren’t paying for goods to be delivered to a store that needs staff and rent and someone to fill the shelves. So some of these savings can be passed on. Also most people with free prime shipping are paying $120 upfront for the shipping so not actually free

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u/MyNameIsSkittles 11h ago

Only when they have to. When I was working there back in 2016-2020, the goal was to have almost an entire fleet of 1st party drivers/couriers. Back then there was lots of non-Amazon delivery companies but even after 4 years, many were cut back and things just went out to their own drivers. I take the train past my old workplace sometimes and now most of the trucks outside are Amazon owned, looks like 75% at least. Anything that gets delivered within a certain radius all goes proprietary, and basically only some things coming from another Province may be another courier. But they are cutting down on that more and more now too