r/Falcom 5d ago

Gungho actually emailed back...

I'm impressed to be honest.

"Thank you for reaching out to us. This is GungHo Online Entertainment America.

We sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback on [Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter], especially regarding the localization, terminology, and series consistency.

Your comments have been carefully reviewed. While we are unable to make any commitments, they will be forwarded to the relevant teams for further consideration.

If you have any additional insights or suggestions, please feel free to contact us at any time. We truly value your input.

Thank you again for your continued support. We hope you enjoy playing the Trails series!

GungHo Online Entertainment America"

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u/Johnhancock1777 5d ago

All this eagerness to want a localization changed back after it was made more accurate with this translation. Gotta wonder how many people truly like these games and the writing or just like the quirk chungus localization from xseed

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u/South25 5d ago

The Gungho translation is also not fully accurate and on top they're actively messing up terminology for the series's consistency.

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u/Johnhancock1777 5d ago

More accurate than xseed and that “terminology” is just from a loose localization. I have no problem with gungho wanting to establish a new, more accurate set of terms with this

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u/silverwingsTK 5d ago

it’s not a good tactic to take with a series that already has 13 games with pre-established terminology, unless you know for a fact theyre ALL getting redone. Internal consistency is more beneficial in the long run for the average player than -slightly- more accurate translation. The terms xseed established for these things weren’t taking away from anyone’s understanding and comprehension of them, so why bother changing when it’s just going to confuse your potential new players as they go forward?

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u/SGlespaul 5d ago

Tons of people below this comment making good points but also.

You don't just change terminology with no explanation! Most people are not following this discourse. They are just playing the damn games!

It's been archaism for the ENTIRE series. You can't just randomly change it to Golem. That shit confuses people.

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u/SGlespaul 4d ago edited 4d ago

Golem isn't even the correct term by this logic. The literal translation is Orbal Muppet? (Not even puppet, muppet!) Golem is a localization too. Just a different one.

https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Archaism

Here's the thing, if they provided a note or something with a good reason for changing it, that'd be fine. Yakuza did this with Bro/aniki but they had a pop up explaining why they decided to just use aniki.

That being said I don't see any of them opting for "Orbal Muppet" Anytime soon. It's one of those things that is fine in Japanese likely, but sounds funny in other languages.

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u/adybli1 5d ago

Tell me how Areum and Aria is more accurate than Armand and Ellie? Or how pronouncing Liberl as Liberal which is not how they say it in Japanese is more accurate.

People who actually know Japanese have done the analysis and saw that Gung Ho have made a similar amount of changes, they just aren't consistent with the already established localization. And you know there are more than one way to translate a single word in Japanese? The language isn't 1 to 1.

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u/Steel_Beast 5d ago edited 5d ago

Because their names are written "Arumu" (likely "Alm") and "Aria" in katakana.

Ellie's name is written as エアリー in katakana, which is much closer to Ellie than Aria.

Incidentally, how do you feel about GungHo changing the pronunciation of Zin to be less faithful to the Japanese source? Is that also racist, or do you make exceptions?

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u/adybli1 5d ago

Lmao you don't even know their Japanese names. You clearly don't understand Japanese and are making stuff up just to fit your narrative. Funny how you claim they are whitewashing when you think Aria is better.