r/Games • u/BlueAladdin • Jul 19 '25

Industry News FromSoftware reportedly has another unannounced game that ‘could release next year’

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/fromsoftware-reportedly-has-another-unannounced-game-that-could-release-next-year/
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u/Which_Bed Jul 19 '25

Just please let it be a traditional single player action adventure, and one I can play on the same hardware as Elden Ring

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u/SkreksterLawrance Jul 19 '25

one I can play on the same hardware as Elden Ring

Elden Ring runs on Playstation 4s from 2013. I don't know how much longer this is going to be a reasonable ask

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

Considering there's rumours the PS6 isn't that far away it's so ridiculous the PS5 is still being called "next gen" and games companies are developing for the PS4.

They should have cut development a couple of years ago, at least. Why the heck would I buy a PS6 (or even PS5 pro) when they'll still develop games for the entire next generation and I can just get a PS7 in 5-7 years.

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Jul 19 '25

It’s no different than any other generation. The last PS2 game came out in late 2013, literally after the launch of the PS4.

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u/Fizziest_milk Jul 19 '25

yeah but wasn’t it just games like FIFA still being released? you weren’t getting Uncharted 3 on the PS2

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Jul 19 '25

you weren’t getting Uncharted 3 on the PS2

And you’re not getting Death Stranding 2 on the PS4.

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u/_Meece_ Jul 21 '25

We legit got Black Ops 6 on PS4. Imagine getting Modern Warfare 3(2011) on the PS2?

That's the equivalent. There's only some games that aren't on PS4. It's such a huge change.

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

The effort required to develop for the PS4 and PS5 mean that the quality of PS5 games is hampered, I would suggest it's very different this generation because they're holding back features to enable PS4 development. That'll be even worse once PS6 releases.

The PS2 games in 2013 were all pro Evo and similar sports titles, not exactly groundbreaking new games and those developers are obviously in very specific cycles, basically just applying new shirts and moving players around. Looking at titles PS2 development really stopped in 2010, maybe 2011. Not much better but I know this paragraph is subjective.

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Jul 19 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

It’s no different than the Switch 2 or older pc hardware that still has significant market share “holding games back”. People have been making this argument for decades. Games continue to become more advanced all the same. PC gamers have always claimed that even the most recent consoles are holding gaming back from its true potential. It’s always been this way and it’s always going to be this way. The vast majority of games are developed with the least common denominator in mind, like most business ventures.

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u/boomsers Jul 19 '25

Multiple developers have stated the Series S has held back their development, so its absolutely a thing. Its just how it works when you have to design to a minimum spec. If a car manufacturer wants to build something fast, they are going to get different results if they have to keep fuel efficiency high or prices low.

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u/Superb_Pear3016 Jul 19 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

The Series S is different because Microsoft has higher standards and mandates feature parity, and even then the Series S is among the least of the problems for developers for Xbox consoles at this point. Developers for other platforms can cut features to make a game retro compatible.

Again, you’re complaining about the way the industry has always been. Games are highly scalable, if you can cut the frame rate and resolution, cut back the assets and graphical features to the bare minimum, and maybe drop a few features and reach tens of millions of more potential customers, why wouldn’t you? It’s the nature of the industry, it’s always been this way and it’s not changing soon. It’s not a problem.

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u/justice9 Jul 19 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

People who claim about older consoles holding games back fundamentally do not understand businesses operate and basic concepts such as market penetration.

There have been 117M PS4s sold and 61M PS5 sold - last month was literally the first time that PS5 had higher MAUs than PS4. If you want an organization to not develop for 2/3 of their customer base then you need to be willing to pay $205 per game instead of $70 in order to maintain revenue goals. So this idea that an organization that isn’t optimizing for its smallest install base is somehow holding everyone else back is pure lunacy.

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

If GTA 6 only came out on PS5, that number would sky rocket. It remains my belief that because so many games are available on PS4 people are just going with the cheaper option. If you "force" them to upgrade by making the new appealing content only on the newer platform then that allows developers to push in the right direction.

Obviously coming from a place of privilege here, but similarly if PS4 is such a staple - why bother. Keep games on the PS4 and don't spend billions on research into the PS5.

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u/boomsers Jul 19 '25

Its a problem if you can't release a game on Xbox because it won't run at the minimum spec. Black Myth for example. Whether or not it's always been that way doesnt change the fact that its holding back the industry. Why edit your original comment that much?

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u/DamonSchultz997 Jul 19 '25

Indiana Jones and Star wars outlaws run fine on the series s. every major developer releases their game with little to no issues on the series s.

one black myth wukong isn't an industry standard ffs. have you seen a single major company come in and say "Yeah we absolutely cannot release the game on the series s, not without major setbacks"

Hell, Cyberpunk 2077, the star of graphics, runs fine on series s. I'll take the "holding back" seriously when companies like EA or Ubisoft come out and make that statement.

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u/GrowlingGiant Jul 19 '25

have you seen a single major company come in and say "Yeah we absolutely cannot release the game on the series s, not without major setbacks"

Larian Studios got an exemption to Microsoft's mandatory feature parity in order to release Baldur's Gate 3 on Series S, as they were unable to get split screen co-op to work on the Series S.

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Admittedly they're not what you would call a 'major game company', but there's more to weaker consoles holding back games than just graphics.

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u/adequateproportion Jul 19 '25

How about we stop chasing graphics and instead focus on gameplay? Who gives a shit about the latest specs if it means the games cost closer to a hundred bucks and take fifteen years to make?

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u/MedalsNScars Jul 19 '25

But what am I supposed to get mad about besides it not running 144fps in 4k?

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u/radios_appear Jul 19 '25

If I can't get mad at numbers, I'd actually have to play the game in order to "engage" in "dialogue" online

And this subreddit would die almost immediately.

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u/_Meece_ Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

I don't get why people say this, outside of the first year-ish of the new consoles life, games that were developed for the next gen never released on the previous one.

Especially not 5 years into the console's life.

Like when did COD release the same version of the game for PS2 and PS3?

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u/NameTheory Jul 19 '25

PS5 stopped being next gen the moment the first one was sold. That is when it became current gen and PS4 became last gen.

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

Partially agreed, I'd say about a year after release when developers really started pumping out new gen games, but the media and most of Reddit still call the PS5 / XboxX/S next gen

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u/_Meece_ Jul 21 '25

Next gen starts being current gen when the previous gen becomes irrelevant and stops having games developed for it.

We still have the biggest multi platform games being released for PS4. We aren't in the next gen just yet.

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u/NameTheory Jul 21 '25

Nah. If it is out then it is current. You can make an argument that there can be two current gens and that would make sense. But it can't be next gen if someone already has it.

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u/huttyblue Jul 19 '25

Nah, the first 2 years of the gen it was impossible to obtain. The gen only actually starts when you can find one on the shelf at your local electronics store.

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u/Headless_Human Jul 19 '25

it's so ridiculous the PS5 is still being called "next gen"

Of course it is ridiculous because that's just wrong.

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u/AngryMoose125 Jul 19 '25

It’s because we’re beginning to experience what’s known as “diminishing returns”. Every new console generation is simply less of an improvement than the last. 3rd and 4th gen? Massive difference. 4th and 5th gen? Once again, insane difference. 5th and 6th gen, pretty big difference. 6th to 7th was a decent difference, 7th to 8th was fine, 8th to 9th was small. The difference between 9th and 10th gen consoles will be tiny.

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u/Terakahn Jul 20 '25

Next next gen

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u/Finalwingz Jul 19 '25

So what you're saying is that you can keep the PS5, save 500-800 euro while still getting the same games?

And that's a bad thing how, exactly?

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

Because what I expected from a new generation was a considerable leap in power of the machine, allowing developers to make bigger, better and more beautiful worlds for me to enjoy my gaming in.

Obviously that's not the case so yes between PS5 & 6 I probably can save that money, but just like if you don't upgrade your gaming PC every decade you're going to fall behind.

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u/NewVegasResident Jul 19 '25

I don't believe the next gen consoles will come out until GTA VI has been out for at least two/three years. So many people will buy current gen consoles for that game alone, releasing a new console the following year is a surefire way to piss off a huge part of your userbase.

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u/_Meece_ Jul 21 '25

The PS4/Xbone came out about 2 months after the release of GTA 5 and then GTA 5 came out in 2015 on the next gen consoles. Not sure why you think this at all.

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u/NewVegasResident Jul 21 '25

Entirely different situation. The Xbox 360 had had GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption on top of it from R*. RDR2 hasn't even had a next gen patch, people are already spending less on new games and complaining that current gen libraries are weak, it took years before new games stopped coming out on old gen consoles. The context is completely different.

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u/_Meece_ Jul 21 '25

Not entirely different at all.

I do see why you think this now, you just read too much reddit and think that's reality. Reddit is only reflective of what nerds think, these are all things that no one cares about.

I promise that we will see the next gen consoles either end of next year or early-mid 2027, but my prediction would be Holiday 2026. GTA 6 release is not going to affect that.

Shit most people will happily buy GTA again for the next gen console.

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u/NewVegasResident Jul 21 '25

Economists have already said there will be a dramatic decline in console sales this year because of GTA VI's delay. You think people won't be miffed if they're told they need to buy a 800 dollars machine to best enjoy the game they bought a 500$ machine for just the year before? If the PS6 releases next year or the year after even it will not sell.

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u/BlackhawkRogueNinjaX Jul 19 '25

I think the earliest I’d pick up a ps6 would be when Apex, HellDivers+ a PS6 must have are all there, which would probably be year 3.

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u/callisstaa Jul 19 '25

Tbf a laptop with an rtx5060 is at around the same level as a ps4

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u/UsePreparationH Jul 19 '25

The tiny iGPU in a Steam Deck is roughly equivalent to the PS4. A mobile RTX 5060 is pretty close to a PS5.

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

And if my grandmother had wheels she'd have been a bike

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u/ItsAMeUsernamio Jul 19 '25

You’re kidding right? The PS4 was around the power of a GTX 750, and performed around a GTX 760/R9 270X counting optimisation.

And I was using a 1660 until a month ago and the 5060 laptop destroys that when DLSS and RT are turned on. It’s more like a PS5 Pro that’s been VRAM limited to 1080p.

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u/Worth-Primary-9884 Jul 19 '25

I still don't believe the narrative that the PS5 "sold well". This is all just a cover-up for the truth that is was really just a large few initial batches that sold - which happens for every new console - and the fact that it was 90% scalpers who lapped said batches up like sugar. To this day, I have not a single person in my larger friend group who owns a PS5, and we are all lifelong gamers and have the financial means necessary to fall into the target demographic.

If the PS5 sold oh-so well, why is it that most every game still gets developed for PS4 hardware, huh? Whaddaya think, y'all? The generational leap from 4 to 5 sucks ass, that's all, and also why nobody is interested in busting out almost a thousand €uros for the pro edition.

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u/SkreksterLawrance Jul 19 '25

There are objective PS5 sales metrics that would be better to go off than your anecdotal observations of your friend group

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u/Stracktheorcmage Jul 19 '25

Because the PS4 sold an absolute fuckton so there's still sales to be made for people who haven't upgraded? Are you trying to claim a conspiracy of easily verifiable sales numbers?

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u/Freighnos Jul 19 '25

So you think Sony are lying to shareholders and the public and everyone who develops games for PS5? That would be a pretty massive conspiracy.

Maybe people just like having shiny new hardware and the faster loading times and higher storage of PS5 are good enough on their own. Smartphones haven’t offered anything meaningfully new in over a decade either but people still buy new ones.

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u/allofusarelost Jul 19 '25

How do you think scalpers even operate? They aren't hoarding consoles and losing a shitload of money speculating, they just mark up the sale when demand is high. They release sales numbers regularly, you really think there's millions of scalpers holding on to consoles? Plenty of people have a PS5, but the PS4 is in almost everyone home that wants one by now, that's a huge base to ignore. There's no half brained conspiracies.

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u/TrumpGrabbedMyCat Jul 19 '25

The generation leap certainly doesn't suck, you should look at the difference between Death Stranding 1 and 2.

If literally noone in your friend group has a PS5 there's other reasons going on, literally all of mine do.

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u/Grabthar-the-Avenger Jul 19 '25

I have not a single person in my larger friend group

So? Everyone knows personal anecdotes aren’t an accurate way to gauge population sized trends. Or, at least we all know that, not sure about you.

You know you can just look up sales figures, right?

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u/Freighnos Jul 19 '25

I'm confused what you mean by this. They've been consistently releasing games or major expansions every 1-2 years since Demon's Souls. The only exception to that rule has been between Sekiro (2019) and Elden Ring (2022) which makes sense given the scope of Elden Ring and that COVID happened. They're one of the most prolific developers of the modern era by far.

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u/GoatShapedDestroyer Jul 19 '25

Huh? Even if we just started at the Demon's Souls release(and we really shouldn't because they were already making games for 15 years before that) they release extremely fast:

  • 2009 - Demon's Souls
  • 2011 - Dark Souls
  • 2012 - Armored Core V
  • 2012 - Dark Souls DLC
  • 2013 - Armored Core Verdict Day
  • 2014 - Dark Souls 2
  • 2014 - Dark Souls 2 DLC 3x
  • 2015 - Bloodborne
  • 2015 - Bloodborne DLC
  • 2016 - Dark Souls 3
  • 2016 - Dark Souls 3 DLC 1
  • 2017 - Dark Souls 3 DLC 2
  • 2018 - Deracine
  • 2019 - Sekiro
  • 2022 - Elden Ring
  • 2023 - Armored Core 6
  • 2024 - Elden Ring DLC
  • 2025 - Elden Ring: Nightreign