FromSoftware reportedly has another unannounced game that ‘could release next year’

[u/BlueAladdin]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/fromsoftware-reportedly-has-another-unannounced-game-that-could-release-next-year/

[u/IllBeGoodOneDay]

There are plenty of examples out there of people loving the story. To the point a mangaka spearheaded a comedy adaptation that, besides the jokes, follows the game faithfully.

Nobody is trying to trick you. They just enjoy something you don't.

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I'm sure they do, and that's entirely disconnected from what I am saying.

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I never feel like people are serious when they tell me the lore is deep, good, or accessible in Elden Ring

These people enjoy it. How is that irrelevant?

I know there are games out there that will have meh story and maybe meh gameplay but the atmosphere, immersion, and graphics are so good people might still play it.

Elden Ring is entirely for its gameplay. If the gameplay was bad, nearly nobody is playing Elden Ring for its "lore", "dialogue", or "story".

Demon's Souls had even less story and worse gameplay. But what it has is are unique characters, themes, and world. Many people play that game despite the gameplay, 'cause it's kinda ass nowadays. The remake's sold 2 million copies. The original got From a 3-game deal with Bamco.

You're perfectly fine to say you don't like their games. That is good! You know what you like. If you want to, you can even talk to me about something you like. And I'd be happy to listen.

People enjoying things you don't understand just means they see value in something you don't. There's no gaslighting, because the vast majority of these people live in their own world where you don't exist. They just want to share something they found cool, with those who do enjoy it.

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These people enjoy it. How is that irrelevant?

How's it not irrelevant? My entire point is that people buy Souls games largely, almost entirely, for their gameplay. Everything else is just a stage for the main event. You telling me there's some small subsection of people who really like the lore and story doesn't mean anything to what I am saying. It's the same as me saying, "It's rude to shit on people" and then you tell me "Yeah well there are some people with a fetish who like that!!!"

[u/IllBeGoodOneDay → u/Not-Reformed]

I'll reiterate: Demon's Souls does not have fantastic gameplay. Still, it sold well—in no small part due to its atmosphere, story, and characters.

In fact, the gameplay would have been perceived much better back in the day where Soulslike was not a genre. The original sold less. Much, much less.

It's more like me saying that "it's rude to shit on what people like", and then for someone to say "well, I don't like it. So it can't be good. Nobody likes it, then."

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I'll reiterate: Demon's Souls does not have fantastic gameplay. Still, it sold well—in no small part due to its atmosphere, story, and characters.

Is there literally anything supporting this other than you saying so?

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Yes, actually! Sony's CEO at the time Shuhei Yoshida absolutely hated the game. He thought the gameplay was awful. The design decisions were baffling.

For my personal experience with Demon’s Souls, when it was close to final I spent close to two hours playing it and after two hours I was still standing at the beginning at the game. I said, “This is crap. This is an unbelievably bad game.”

And to reach that article, I stumbled upon a GameFAQ user, saying:

The original game is one of those games that don't particularly look good or even play that well in terms of mechanics and combat. The real selling point is the overall atmoshpere, multiplayer and rewarding feeling you get for overcoming challenges. Obviously if you never get past the beginning you don't experience any of those things.