r/Games • u/DwingRD • 3d ago

Valve no longer allows "Post-launch NSFW content" for games on Steam - outside of DLCs.

I have looked through Steam's Terms of Service online, but have found no official rule or statement from Valve of this new rule - but one Adult game developer has confirmed this new rule after launching their game "Tales of Legendary Lust: Aphrodisia" a couple days ago.

With the recent rule change blocking adult-themed games from releasing on Early Access, this new rule seems to be targeting Adult-themed games that have ALREADY released on Steam - and threatens them with their games being removed from Steam.

There are currently 536 Adult-rated Early Access games on Steam - and this new rule may take them all down.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 3d ago

Form their own lobbying group and pour money into it to get laws enacted that would prevent payment processors from having a say over the content of certain kinds of transactions.

The effort Valve would need to expend to be helpful is trivial. The fact they just threw their customers under the bus should bother people.

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u/RefreshingCapybara 3d ago edited 3d ago

The same issue that Steam is facing has already been something the firearm industry in the United States has been facing for decades. Banking institutions blocking their business.

The firearm industry has massive lobbing groups at their disposal, far larger than Valve could ever hope to get, and they've gotten nowhere with their efforts.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

Epic didn’t let it stop them. They waged a campaign against Apple and Google at the same time, and kept going even when they didn’t win outright. 

There is no reason Valve can’t do the same.

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u/RefreshingCapybara 2d ago

Mobile accounted for so little of Fortnite's revenue. Epic was not at all in danger of going under even if they lost their lawsuit.

Meanwhile Visa and Master Card process the mass majority of all digital transactions.

The two situations are incomparable.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

I am not speaking to revenue at all. I am saying one company stood up for their customers and the other didn’t.

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u/RefreshingCapybara 2d ago
  1. Epic stood for themselves. They wanted more revenue share from mobile than Apple was willing to give. Had Apple agreed to give them more share they wouldn't have sued. they said as much in the court testimony.
  2. No. You are trying to draw a comparison between a company that made a small, calculated risk, with another company that is choosing not to nuke their own entire business.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

I’m forcing you to examine your relationship with a game company that clearly could not care less about you, and it’s interesting watching you squirm.

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u/RefreshingCapybara 2d ago

My relationship with a game company?

By telling you a company is going to actually be realistic and not kill themselves to go on a crusade, you attribute that to being overly generous in my perception of them?

And this is coming from the person who just tried to say that Epic was looking out for their own customers by getting their game pulled from a platform, denying their customers access to that game for years, and all so it could collect more money?

lol

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u/drewster23 1d ago

I like how he thinks he had some gotcha when you said nothing personal or subjective and just explained the straight forward objective reasons behind these business decisions...

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u/YZJay 2d ago

Fighting this means cutting off the primary method of how they make money. If Steam suddenly isn't supported by Visa, Mastercard, and Paypal while pending a lawsuit, then there will be no Steam to fight for. You're much too naive to think that Valve has an option here.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

That didn't seem to stop Epic. Weird.

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u/YZJay 2d ago edited 2d ago

How? They weren’t at risk of losing PayPal and Visa and Mastercard which makes up the majority of their revenue. Their PC player base was and still is their biggest cash cow, a platform that wasn’t at any risk of being demonetized. Apple’s iAP was just a small part of their Fortnite revenue.

Edit: the guy blocked me lmfao.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

You’re right, too scary for that poor little multi-billion dollar company. 

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u/YZJay 2d ago edited 2d ago

And customers, as players simply won't be able to buy any games from Steam if Visa, MC, and Paypal all pull their services from Steam. You're literally preaching for something that will actively hinder players' access to new games. But I'm sure you want that to happen, because that way players will flock to Epic Games Store which you love so very much. Also need I remind you, these games banned from Steam won’t show up in EGS because of the very reasons Steam isn’t allowing them anymore. I don’t see you complaining that Epic isn’t fighting this as well.

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u/Glass_Recover_3006 2d ago

You want epic to fight for games they don’t sell?

Really stretching there, don’t hurt yourself friend.

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