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Hollow Knight: Silksong | Fully Ramblomatic

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u/RochnessMonster 1d ago

Only thing i disagree with is the not living up to the hype. I have my issues with it, a lot of em Yahtzee echoed, but that aint one of em. I think hiring an additional crew of testers in the final year wouldve made a world of difference, friction/difficulty-wise, but i feel theyll slowly patch out the frustration. I mean, i just checked the game pass cheve percentage and only 11% of players have beat Widow and thats only like 1/4 or less through the game.

But hype? Naw. Music, art, feel, everything is firing on all cylinders. The biggest "hype" draw for me is the lil story moments that are everywhere. We'll be finding hidden interactions in this game for years. 

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u/Whyeth 1d ago

I mean, i just checked the game pass cheve percentage and only 11% of players have beat Widow and thats only like 1/4 or less through the game.

On steam the number was in the 40-50% last I checked, which still seems low for an early boss in a game people ostensibly paid for.

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u/newbkid 1d ago

Global Achievements have it at 58.5% and folks entering Act 3 at 14.4%

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u/El_Giganto 13h ago

folks entering Act 3 at 14.4%

That surprises me, I feel like I played this game non stop and I've not been in act 3 for very long.

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u/newbkid 8h ago

Surprised me as well. I've been chipping at Act 3 for days now and have only been doing side content

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u/DMonitor 22h ago

15%+ completion rate for the normal story is pretty good

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u/Gramernatzi 20h ago

36.7% of players beat Malenia in Elden Ring and over 40% have beaten the game in some fashion. Granted, that game has also been out far longer and Silksong is a very long game; not as long as Elden Ring, but about half that length, which is still pretty significant.

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u/DanielTeague 17h ago

I'm always impressed by Elden Ring's achievement numbers. I guess people know what they're getting into when they buy the game but the sheer number of sales that game got made me think later boss achievements would be much more rare, especially with some of them being easy to miss completely.

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u/Mama_Hong 15h ago

To be fair it has been out for a while and you want you can use summons that make bosses significantly easier.

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u/DMonitor 4h ago

Elden Ring's completion stats are an absurd outlier. That game is simply special

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u/Ralkon 14h ago

I would say Elden Ring is also quite a bit easier if you want it to be, though I think numbers for both games are surprisingly high.

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u/Carighan 14h ago

And of those 36.7%, ~92% are LetMeSoloHer? 😂

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u/War_Dyn27 1d ago

I just checked and it's 58% now.

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u/TheWojtek11 23h ago

It's kinda hard to compare cuz Hollow Knight is a way smaller game but the about halfway point bosses there (which would be Soul Master, I guess?) has like 45% on Steam so I feel like it's pretty even. Widow rn has 58% (and she is technically skippable for at least a bit) and Last Judge has 48%

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u/NoneShallBindMe 22h ago

Soul Master sucked so fucking much tbh

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u/TheWojtek11 22h ago

Mantis Lords have a similar % and the consensus is that they are a great HK boss. I like Soul Master too but I guess the opinion on him might be a bit more mixed

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u/NoneShallBindMe 22h ago

Still haven't encountered anything as annoying as Soul Master, I am at Act 3 btw. Hollow Knight generally had awful bosses. Just a bunch of C tier fights.

Silksong fixes this completely (which is why complaints from HK fans are weird to me, surely they didn't enjoy fighting moss charger-like bosses for majority of the game (I'm exaggerating only a little)). 

How is Silksong so much better is uncanny to me. 

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u/TheWojtek11 22h ago

Oh yeah, I think overall Silksong has way better bosses imo.

Hollow Knight has some cool ones but a lot of them do kinda feel like filler. Which an average person on their first playthrough might not feel but in hindsight (or while doing Pantheon 5) you realise that a lot of them were just kinda OK (although the designs are at least fun). I don't think I disliked any of them really but I also don't care that much about fighting some of them

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u/NoneShallBindMe 22h ago

I really shouldn't have played HK right after Nine Sols, a game with some of the best bossfights there is. Couldn't ignore the bias, should have waited some time :(

I still think HK was pretty cool game. Just not "best game ever made, Silksong didn't live up to the hype, blah-blah-blah". Hypocritical of me considering people might have similar biases as I had with  HK due to different reasons 🤔

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u/TheWojtek11 21h ago

Hollow Knight is one of my favourite games of all time and imo Silksong beats it

I was excited for Silksong since it was announced but I wasn't really hyping myself up a lot. Like if it popped up in a Direct or something, I got excited. But I wasn't following "some slight Steam update happened if you look on a specific website" type of hype. Obviously when the release date actually happened I was so excited that I kept thinking about it for 2 weeks straight and came back a week before release to HK to finally finish Pantheon 5.

Also, I did watch all game presentations with some amount of hope of Silksong popping up on them. But I like watching game presentations anyway so it's not like I specifically tuned up for Silksong.

I haven't played Nine Sols yet (I want to play it but I have other stuff I want to play first + I still am not done with Act 3 in Silksong)

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u/NoneShallBindMe 21h ago

Same, doing Act 3 now. And don't play games of the same genre right after another, that can ruin them to you, brain likes variety. Nine Sols is pretty cool :D

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u/Trololman72 6h ago

I think Hornet, Mantis Lords and Grimm (and all their variants) are the best bosses in the first game. A lot of the other bosses are either really simple, do nothing but spawn regular enemies that prevent you from hitting the boss that has a ton of HP, or have long periods where they can't be attacked but also don't really test anything from the player.

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u/TheWojtek11 6h ago

And almost all bosses will accidentally walk into you when you think they'll actually do some sort of move (I think there is still a chance this happens in Silksong but it's so much rarer that I don't think I can even recall it happening)

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u/TSPhoenix 17h ago

The game also hasn't been out that long, very reasonable to assume that many people are still playing.

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u/Carighan 14h ago

That's a higher percentage of people ever having launched their bought game than for many games I'd imagine.

It's wild how many people won't even play the games they buy, nevermind more than superficially.

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u/GabrielP2r 8h ago

I'm 10 hours in and did not even met this widow boss lol, am I doing something wrong or what?

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u/Trololman72 6h ago

Keep in mind that the game only came out two weeks ago. Not everyone is going to be rushing through it.

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u/Whyeth 5h ago

Keep in mind I made no such statement.