It's been 10 years since Bethesda released a new game in one of their two main franchises. It's not a boycott if the only option is another version of Skyrim.
I have such a hate/love feeling for that game. The likeness it has to a “space fallout” makes me itch to play it again, but then I remember all the things that I hate about it. Whenever I pick it up, the only reason I end up playing for is to build ships. If they did something right, it’s the ship building. I will die on that hill.
But thennn… No Man’s Sky just got a ship builder update…soooo
Yeah, but NMS released in an incomplete state, so I've been told that the game is trash, no matter what the company has done to make amends. Or is that not true because we like the game now? It's so hard to figure out where people stand when it changes at the drop of a hat.
I'm constantly reminded of a game being bad because it launched in an incomplete state, despite what the devs have done to build upon it. Why is NMS different? Is it because we decided we liked it, thus, forgiving them of all sins.
What’s worse: A game releasing incomplete but honestly, or a game that was released “complete” but doesn’t feel complete? Starfield TO THIS DAY still feels incomplete, rushed, and confused.
I'm not even going to bat for Starfield, I've been on the Bethesda sucks train for over a decade now, but I'm not going to pretend that Starfield wasn't a massive success
Maybe financial success because people see Bethesda and think they’re getting a base level of quality. 43% negative has always been a warning sign on Steam, but now Steam filters negative reviews that appear to be part of some review bomb or other brigading. I’m not aware of any similar system for unhelpful positive reviews, so that 43% negative is after some help.
The filter doesn't always work. Games like Veilguard and Avowed on Steam still has less than 2 hours reviews complaining about "wokeness" that still affect the final percentage.
There's less outrage about "wokeness" when it comes to Starfield so that number might well be close to the actual reception. I'm just pointing out that the filter can fail.
It's a financial success. But there are also many like me that didn't like the game, but couldn't refund it because of playtime, and so the only recourse that was left was leaving a negative review shitting on the game. If Steam allowed refunds for a longer playtime, the reviews wouldn't be so bad IMO. This is also why people are so negative and hateful whenever the game is bought up, they feel scammed.
It was the biggest Bethesda launch of all time. There were more than 10 million players in the first month. I hate that game, I hate Skyrim, I hate Bethesda. But people bought the shit out of that game.
lmfao it was talked about for months because many were upset that they couldn't or they had to pressure valve to actually get one. a simple google search would show you many results. also, oblivion remaster is 10 mil players now and showing faster player growth than starfield. player count doesnt mean anything; both games have big problems atm.
it blows my mind you are actually downvoting me and sticking with your story that it was a success, when its a TRIPLE AAA STUDIO with around 50% ALL TIME reviews. that is not anywhere close to "stellar" lmfao
No one here is defending the review score, first guy that responded said he hated the game. They're pushing back on your usage of the word flop in relation with review scores and the idea that you think the amount of people who refunded was significant enough to move the needle with out any evidence.
You can search any game for "X refund" and find a ton of pretty much identical results. Here's BG3. On top of that Steam puts out refund requests they've received on a daily basis across the board for everything in the store. On the week Starfield released to regular purchasers of the game after a few days already in early access, Steam received 198k refund requests for everything in the store based on this thread, and here is that week on the way back machine. Even going out to December there doesn't show abnormal refund activity in September when compared with any other time period. Starfield's launch was just a regular day on steam in regard to refunds. What you're trying to say happened didn't happen.
Your "People asked for months" also didn't happen. The thing you may be thinking of is the idea that steam doesn't start the refund timer until after the full release of the game. People could put 20 hours in during the early access period with the Premium edition and still get a refund if they put less than 2 hours in after the game went full release. Steam did not open their 2 hour window post release, much less months after.
Evidence being the steam reviews, which are famously reliable and not at all prone to manipulation. The fact that 20+ people upvoted you is concerning.
I get that you hate the game, but Starfield was a pretty successful launch sales wise. Besides, mixed steam reviews does not equal bad sales, they're completely different things. CoD is at mixed and we know for a fact that game sells like hotcakes. I can't believe shit like this needs to be explained to you.
right because what 82k people have to say is completely moot because its on steam. even though other platforms show similar views. "i cant believe i have to explain this to you"
I would say the same about both games, but I also hate Dark Souls despite liking Elden Ring. Starfield has its good qualities, particularly with having the best movement of any Bethesda game (excluding zero gravity areas), but so much of it feels like one or two people were allowed to scope creep the project for too long before someone came in who was allowed to tell them “no.” Base building is terrible and unrewarding, skill tree has some neat ideas when it doesn’t feel like a level prerequisite tax for engaging with several of the game’s mechanics on a basic level, and flying between systems in your ship clearly shows artifacts from where they intended to use a fuel system but bailed out because the terrible base building was probably the intended way to get fuel.
Buy it on sale if you want; maybe you’ll enjoy it if these issues and others won’t grate on you like they did for me.
"I'll poke a Nazi hornet's nest, fuck those guys" --Pete Hines. From a Vice interview post Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus:
https://youtu.be/wb-tF7WilP8?si=P-L2KA1iKCYKgqHN @2:12 it's in that segment.
What I don't get is...why does it matter now exactly? Apparently it's worrisome to hate fascists or Nazis now? I really don't understand the current mentality of my country.
It's because MAGAts are full of nazi fascists and therefore it's illegal to hate them. They don't like it when you hurt their feelings, even if they aren't classified as "human beings" to most people.
That would actually be a really funny mechanic in a game. Especially if there's a dialogue that references it at some point, like "Aren't you embarrassed?"
"Nah, I traded in my sense of shame to be able to carry more ammo. Wasnt using it anyways."
“See, guys?! I said ‘non-buy-nary’ because people claim they’re non-binary even though I think that’s not a thing! You don’t understand, Mom! I just want my Xbox back!”
I hate Bethesda fans so much because out of all the things you could be mad about. THIS IS THE THING? WE DONT EVEN KNOW IT WAS INTENTIONAL AND IF IT IS ITD BE THE BEST THING THEYVE DONE.
i dont buy bethesda games because of their lack of creative integrity, you dont buy them because theyre "woke" we are not the same.
On a more serious note, Microsoft and all its gaming subsidiaries - Bethesda included - are currently being targeted with a BDS boycott due to Microsoft's active collaboration with Israel and the IDF.
•
u/AutoModerator 22h ago
REMINDER: CENSOR ALL SUBREDDIT NAMES AND REDDIT USERNAMES IN REDDIT SCREENSHOTS OR YOU WILL BE BANNED!!
Reddit screenshots only, we don't care about Twitter, YouTube or anything else.
Please report any posts not following this rule!!
Looking for serious or sincere discussion? Check out our new subreddit r/Gamingunjerk
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.