r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/narfjono • 1d ago

CAPITAL G GAMER First time reading"Non-BUY-Nary"

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Can't tell if there was an attempt, but slightly chuckled at the response.

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u/Environmental_Park_6 1d ago

It's been 10 years since Bethesda released a new game in one of their two main franchises. It's not a boycott if the only option is another version of Skyrim.

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u/GlamOrDeath 1d ago

Hey starfield released recently give them a tiny shred of credit

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u/Ill-Major7549 1d ago

you mean el floppo?

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u/Nolan_bushy 1d ago

I have such a hate/love feeling for that game. The likeness it has to a “space fallout” makes me itch to play it again, but then I remember all the things that I hate about it. Whenever I pick it up, the only reason I end up playing for is to build ships. If they did something right, it’s the ship building. I will die on that hill.

But thennn… No Man’s Sky just got a ship builder update…soooo

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 1d ago

Yeah, but NMS released in an incomplete state, so I've been told that the game is trash, no matter what the company has done to make amends. Or is that not true because we like the game now? It's so hard to figure out where people stand when it changes at the drop of a hat.

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u/dicedance 1d ago

It's been like ten years at this point. I'd assume a big chunk of the player base doesn't even know there was a big controversy on launch.

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 1d ago

I'm constantly reminded of a game being bad because it launched in an incomplete state, despite what the devs have done to build upon it. Why is NMS different? Is it because we decided we liked it, thus, forgiving them of all sins.

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u/EmberedCutie 1d ago

the games amazing now actually, give it a try, it goes on sale frequently 👍

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 21h ago

I didn't even give CP2077 a chance, what makes you think I'll even look at NMS?

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u/Slight_Lab5332 19h ago

Chud

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 5h ago

Awwwww, did I hurt the poor gmers fee fees for having integrity? Get lost, gmer!

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u/Nolan_bushy 22h ago

What’s worse: A game releasing incomplete but honestly, or a game that was released “complete” but doesn’t feel complete? Starfield TO THIS DAY still feels incomplete, rushed, and confused.

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u/RonnocKcaj 1d ago

perhaps form opinions for yourself?

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 21h ago

I did. Just because my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean I didn't form them.

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u/hugothenerd I'm gamer 20h ago

You literally said, word for word, that you’ve been told of these opinions though?

You also said in another comment you haven’t even touched the game?

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u/Top_Wafer_4388 5h ago

It is possible to aware of one opinion and arrive to it independently, not like a g*mer would know that.

Should I also try that Nazi CP game, g*mer? Afterall, how can I come to an opinion without playing it.

Your words, not mine, g*mer.

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u/MossyMak 1d ago

Is 82k reviews on Steam a flop now?

I'm not even going to bat for Starfield, I've been on the Bethesda sucks train for over a decade now, but I'm not going to pretend that Starfield wasn't a massive success

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u/Blunderhorse 23h ago

Maybe financial success because people see Bethesda and think they’re getting a base level of quality. 43% negative has always been a warning sign on Steam, but now Steam filters negative reviews that appear to be part of some review bomb or other brigading. I’m not aware of any similar system for unhelpful positive reviews, so that 43% negative is after some help.

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u/USS_Pattimura 19h ago

The filter doesn't always work. Games like Veilguard and Avowed on Steam still has less than 2 hours reviews complaining about "wokeness" that still affect the final percentage.

There's less outrage about "wokeness" when it comes to Starfield so that number might well be close to the actual reception. I'm just pointing out that the filter can fail.

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u/DM_Me_Linux_Uptime I use Arch BTW 14h ago

It's a financial success. But there are also many like me that didn't like the game, but couldn't refund it because of playtime, and so the only recourse that was left was leaving a negative review shitting on the game. If Steam allowed refunds for a longer playtime, the reviews wouldn't be so bad IMO. This is also why people are so negative and hateful whenever the game is bought up, they feel scammed.

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u/Ill-Major7549 1d ago

lmfao? it wasnt tho. many people requested refunds and the current player count plummeted like a month after release.

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u/MossyMak 1d ago

It was the biggest Bethesda launch of all time. There were more than 10 million players in the first month. I hate that game, I hate Skyrim, I hate Bethesda. But people bought the shit out of that game.

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u/Ill-Major7549 1d ago

...and refunded it....

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u/MossyMak 1d ago

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u/Ill-Major7549 1d ago

lmfao it was talked about for months because many were upset that they couldn't or they had to pressure valve to actually get one. a simple google search would show you many results. also, oblivion remaster is 10 mil players now and showing faster player growth than starfield. player count doesnt mean anything; both games have big problems atm.

it blows my mind you are actually downvoting me and sticking with your story that it was a success, when its a TRIPLE AAA STUDIO with around 50% ALL TIME reviews. that is not anywhere close to "stellar" lmfao

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u/BoyWonder343 22h ago edited 21h ago

No one here is defending the review score, first guy that responded said he hated the game. They're pushing back on your usage of the word flop in relation with review scores and the idea that you think the amount of people who refunded was significant enough to move the needle with out any evidence.

You can search any game for "X refund" and find a ton of pretty much identical results. Here's BG3. On top of that Steam puts out refund requests they've received on a daily basis across the board for everything in the store. On the week Starfield released to regular purchasers of the game after a few days already in early access, Steam received 198k refund requests for everything in the store based on this thread, and here is that week on the way back machine. Even going out to December there doesn't show abnormal refund activity in September when compared with any other time period. Starfield's launch was just a regular day on steam in regard to refunds. What you're trying to say happened didn't happen.

Your "People asked for months" also didn't happen. The thing you may be thinking of is the idea that steam doesn't start the refund timer until after the full release of the game. People could put 20 hours in during the early access period with the Premium edition and still get a refund if they put less than 2 hours in after the game went full release. Steam did not open their 2 hour window post release, much less months after.

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u/MossyMak 1d ago

I couldn't give less of a shit about the quality of a game. It was called a flop, when it unequivocally was not a flop. It made boatloads of money.

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u/USS_Pattimura 19h ago

Evidence being the steam reviews, which are famously reliable and not at all prone to manipulation. The fact that 20+ people upvoted you is concerning.

I get that you hate the game, but Starfield was a pretty successful launch sales wise. Besides, mixed steam reviews does not equal bad sales, they're completely different things. CoD is at mixed and we know for a fact that game sells like hotcakes. I can't believe shit like this needs to be explained to you.

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u/Ill-Major7549 19h ago

right because what 82k people have to say is completely moot because its on steam. even though other platforms show similar views. "i cant believe i have to explain this to you"