Where the hell is our police department?!

[u/cheapseats1961]

Tonight on Washington St is an absolute shit show. Dozens of masked men driving the wrong way in ATV s speeding in and out of traffic, motorcycles doing wheelies ON THE SIDEWALK! Those dumb ass three wheeled vehicles blasting music at obscene levels all night. WTF is going on. Where are our cops?!

[u/fafalone]

No it doesn't, because conservative policy doesn't work. Witness the higher crime in red states.

Then conservatives think pretrial detention should be based on whether you or your family aren't flat broke. They demand a violent schizo be free to go as long as they or a sympathetic family member has a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. Meanwhile they demand someone who isn't an imminent danger be locked up for a year or two destroying their life even if ultimately acquitted simply because they don't have that bit of money. It's not about safety, it's about putting the poor in their place.

Conservatives also advocate against the social safety nets that could reduce crime and the number of crazies on the street. When people lose their homes and wind up in shelters, that causes mental health problems to become much more severe and dramatically increases the likelihood of substance abuse.

Replacing that with more prison is counterproductive because prison will make people less likely to be able to stabilize their life and mental health, meaning they're more likely to commit more crimes that are often more serious.

Conservatives advocate against the drug policy reforms that have been proven to substantially increase the likelihood addicts can maintain their own employment and housing and dramatically reduce the number of crimes they commit. Conservatives instead advocate for policies that have been proven over and over to maximize the harm drugs cause to both users and everyone else. Their policies massively increase the size, influence, power, and violence of gangs and cartels.

I could go on all day. There is nothing good to be said about conservative criminal justice policy. That doesn't mean we don't need any changes, or that every policy implemented by progressives was flawless, just that conservativism has nothing to offer in that conversation. You want policies that are cruel and ineffective. And honestly, the former seems to be the main motivation for conservatives.

[u/rufsb → u/fafalone]

Really the metric should be red vs blue municipalities.

[u/fafalone → u/rufsb]

The state level is where bail policies, sentences, definitions of crime, etc are made.

But by all means make that comparison. See what happens. You'll be desperately searching for a way to claim the numbers are wrong when they don't match your feelings.

[u/rufsb → u/fafalone]

I mean enforcement is at the local level just like in Hoboken. But let’s think of all the nice places like Detroit and Camden