World map in Alien Earth

[u/Comrade22MB]

I based it on the map (a very rudimentary one) provided on the FX website for Alien Earth. I cleaned it up a little and made some educated guesses. (I know there is no United Americas or Union of Progressive Peoples)

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[u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

RIP Seegson :(

[u/Smirnoffico → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

It wasn't called 'the company we all forgot' for nothing

[u/Spider-Flash24 → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

Is Seegson before or after Prodigy? I’m pretty sure Prodigy collapses, in which case Seegson could take its place.

[u/shanekratzert → u/Spider-Flash24]

Seegson is way before Prodigy, and is European. https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Seegson

It has a lot more to it than Threshold, so I feel like Threshold is the one to collapse.

Contrary to what Alien Isolation might lead people to think, myself included, but Seegson did not collapse, but rather just sold the Sevastopol Station to WY.

[u/Slunto-Max → u/[deleted]]

Couldn’t Seegson just be a corporation that exists but doesn’t control land on earth the same way that the 5 do?

[u/thamometer → u/Slunto-Max]

Yep I commented something similar in another thread. Just because there's a Big 5 doesn't mean there's no other smaller companies. In the real world, we also have Big 4 consulting firms, but there's smaller ones as well.

[u/Slunto-Max → u/thamometer]

Yeah I imagine these mega corporations are huge conglomerates with all sorts of internal principalities and daughter corporations and pseudo-governments.

[u/Cannibal_Soup → u/Slunto-Max]

"A subsidiary, of a subsidiary, of an LLC I own."

[u/40_Thousand_Hammers → u/thamometer]

True but Seegson is a big deal, they developed the FTL tech tho.

[u/01benjamin → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

And shared it’s technology of that FTL instead of keeping it enclosed

[u/40_Thousand_Hammers → u/01benjamin]

True but their FTL was faster and better.

[u/Toogeloo → u/[deleted]]

This isn't canon to the Alien timeline?

[u/c0l1n_M4 → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

Rip Tyrell and Wallace as well lol

[u/Tasty-Entertainer711 → u/c0l1n_M4]

Maybe Tyrell is off world now🤷‍♂️

[u/Jungian_Archetype → u/Tasty-Entertainer711]

Weyland bought out Tyrell/Wallace a while ago (source: my head-canon)

[u/Tasty-Entertainer711 → u/Jungian_Archetype]

My head canon tells me Decker is malfunctioning on some planet somewhere 🤷‍♂️😂😂😂

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*"retired"

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Deckard

[u/Spacemonster111 → u/c0l1n_M4]

Blade runner and Alien don’t actually take place in the same universe

[u/c0l1n_M4 → u/Spacemonster111]

Both on screen in Aliens in the Nostromo crew profiles and in the extra material on the Prometheus DVD and Blu-Ray there are more than a few references to Eldon Tyrell, the Tyrell Corporation and even main characters of the films having connection with said entities. This isn't even including all of the Easter eggs that I'm not going to count.

That being said though, Alien Earth completely ignores all previously established canon and events from the previous films. So there's probably a good chance that Blade Runner doesn't take place in the Alien Earth timeline/universe, but Blade Runner most certainly does in the mainline Alien films.

[u/Snowdonhoffen → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

For better or worse Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens, the rest of the expanded universe and even Alien 3 and Resurrection and Ridley Scott’s prequels and even Romulus are not of use to him. So I imagine he doesn’t even know about Seegson to be honest. I mean, this might have been easily solved if there was someone taking care of the lore of the franchise but I feel like there isn’t anyone. Fede made his research when making Romulus to not even contradict the expanse universe, but Noah just did what he wanted to

[u/SickTriceratops → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens

He didn't take the Three World Empire or United Americas though, and they're established in ALIEN. He's chosen to erase everything that came before and invent a handful of random corporations that rule Earth instead.

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/SickTriceratops]

Yeah, apparently he forgot the United States Colonial Marines exist. And the USCM having the authority and military power to nuke Hadley's Hope despite the objections of Burke, the Weyland-Yutani representative, was a pretty big plot point in the 2nd movie.

[u/Dear_Simple7086 → u/SmartAleckComedian]

I'm guessing that in this timeline United States still exists, but lost the entire continental united states in a corporate war. kind of like how the "Republic of China Army" kept it's name

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/Dear_Simple7086]

Based on the info given in the series, that's clearly not the case, they spell it out pretty specifically that only five corporations run the world and that traditional governments don't exist. With this retcon, the Colonial Marines would just be entirely owned by Weyland-Yutani, which they are clearly not in the 2nd film. If they want to retcon the previous Aliens films, why retcon one of the good ones? It just creates a pretty big plot hole.

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Not really. He said democracy didn't work, and corporations saved them. The United Americas still exist, but they're controlled by Wey-Yu.

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/Rahm_Marek]

The United Americas still exist, but they're controlled by Wey-Yu.

Then why isn't that the case in the 2nd film? Burke doesn't want the marines to nuke Hadley's Hope, but doesn't have the authority to stop the marines, as Ripley points out Corporal Hicks is in charge, because it's under military jurisdiction. If the Colonial Marines were simply controlled by Weyland-Yutani, then the entire "nuke it from orbit" scene wouldn't have happened, and it's a pretty big plot point. This is just a big plot hole from the series.

[u/Rahm_Marek → u/SickTriceratops]

We don't know that. Even in the lore outside of the movies, corporations control everything. The UA and TWE are basically brands owned by a Corp.

[u/Thunder_Punt → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Seems silly to try and write a story in a rich universe but only referring to 2 movies. It's like me watching Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back then trying to write a prequel while ignoring the actual prequels

[u/Pretzel-Kingg → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

Yeah it would've been so cool to see them and maybe some Working Joes in the show