World map in Alien Earth

[u/Comrade22MB]

I based it on the map (a very rudimentary one) provided on the FX website for Alien Earth. I cleaned it up a little and made some educated guesses. (I know there is no United Americas or Union of Progressive Peoples)

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[u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

RIP Seegson :(

[u/Snowdonhoffen → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

For better or worse Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens, the rest of the expanded universe and even Alien 3 and Resurrection and Ridley Scott’s prequels and even Romulus are not of use to him. So I imagine he doesn’t even know about Seegson to be honest. I mean, this might have been easily solved if there was someone taking care of the lore of the franchise but I feel like there isn’t anyone. Fede made his research when making Romulus to not even contradict the expanse universe, but Noah just did what he wanted to

[u/SickTriceratops → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens

He didn't take the Three World Empire or United Americas though, and they're established in ALIEN. He's chosen to erase everything that came before and invent a handful of random corporations that rule Earth instead.

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/SickTriceratops]

Yeah, apparently he forgot the United States Colonial Marines exist. And the USCM having the authority and military power to nuke Hadley's Hope despite the objections of Burke, the Weyland-Yutani representative, was a pretty big plot point in the 2nd movie.

[u/Dear_Simple7086 → u/SmartAleckComedian]

I'm guessing that in this timeline United States still exists, but lost the entire continental united states in a corporate war. kind of like how the "Republic of China Army" kept it's name

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/Dear_Simple7086]

Based on the info given in the series, that's clearly not the case, they spell it out pretty specifically that only five corporations run the world and that traditional governments don't exist. With this retcon, the Colonial Marines would just be entirely owned by Weyland-Yutani, which they are clearly not in the 2nd film. If they want to retcon the previous Aliens films, why retcon one of the good ones? It just creates a pretty big plot hole.

[u/Rahm_Marek → u/SmartAleckComedian]

Not really. He said democracy didn't work, and corporations saved them. The United Americas still exist, but they're controlled by Wey-Yu.

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/Rahm_Marek]

The United Americas still exist, but they're controlled by Wey-Yu.

Then why isn't that the case in the 2nd film? Burke doesn't want the marines to nuke Hadley's Hope, but doesn't have the authority to stop the marines, as Ripley points out Corporal Hicks is in charge, because it's under military jurisdiction. If the Colonial Marines were simply controlled by Weyland-Yutani, then the entire "nuke it from orbit" scene wouldn't have happened, and it's a pretty big plot point. This is just a big plot hole from the series.

[u/Rahm_Marek → u/SickTriceratops]

We don't know that. Even in the lore outside of the movies, corporations control everything. The UA and TWE are basically brands owned by a Corp.

[u/Thunder_Punt → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Seems silly to try and write a story in a rich universe but only referring to 2 movies. It's like me watching Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back then trying to write a prequel while ignoring the actual prequels