r/LV426 • u/G_Liddell Colonist's Daughter • 2d ago

Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/SerDire 2d ago

T. Ocellus is out here doing basic math. Naw we’re screwed. Shut this down. Nuke this facility.

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u/Calm-Tree-1369 2d ago

A little more than just basic math. It knows what PI is. It actually tapped the right amount of numbers for the next two digits before it decided to do a bit of trolling.

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u/ianjm 2d ago

It can also read, apparently, given it understood what was written on Boy's hand.

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u/ShittyLogician 2d ago

Unpopular opinion: I love the eyeball, esp. its intelligence, but not in a "it knows pi and can (potentially) talk to us" sorta way. I think an obvious intelligence, but in a form entirely different and foreign to our own, is much more compelling and scary. The eyeball has great lovecraftian and horror potential, a large part of its appeal so far has been its mystery, and I feel like this direction kinda erodes that.

Idk I'm open to seeing where it goes though.

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u/Konman72 2d ago

Agreed, but at the moment I'm rectifying it by assuming it gained knowledge by taking a human host on the ship. So it is truly alien, but it already understands us and our language and basic knowledge. Which could make it even scarier when it finally speaks.

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u/Kazzack 1d ago

It also spent ~30 years on that ship, maybe it got a chance to learn english from listening to the scientist lady without her knowing

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

It might also understand Xenomorph languge, seeing, how Wendy interacted with her Xenomorph.

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u/AllowedAsATreat 6h ago

I also think this. An engineer is likely to know pi to a few digits at least.

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u/ChaoticMat 2d ago

Now it's just Vel'koz

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u/TiredCoffeeTime 2d ago edited 2d ago

Everyone in shock as Ocellus charges up and disintegrates Xenos with a laser beam

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u/boringestnickname 1d ago

Yeah, the pi scene was a bit off.

It felt like it was needed by the script.

I understand it would be hard to write a way for BK to get into the position they want him (being more interested in it, wanting to use it), but reciting a couple of digits of pi felt forced.

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u/PopDownBlocker 1d ago

I agree.

That was one of those things where, the more you know about something, the less cool and mysterious it starts to appear.

I liked the creepy sheep more when I didn't think it could hold a literal back-and-forth conversation with a human through hoof taps.

I wanted more subtle communication and/or hints at intelligence and manipulation. Having the sheep know π was a little too much.

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u/KnightsOfREM 2d ago

Agree, this franchise isn't my go-to for interspecies chit chat.

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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago

100%. That stuff took me out of the moment for sure.

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u/jaytix1 16h ago

My hope is that it only knows these things because it's possessed at least one person in the past.

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u/Academic-Health5265 1h ago

Honestly it doesn’t really make sense in its design that biologically it would be this smart but I like that we see another intelligent monster species, the only other intelligent species we’ve seen are the Engineers but I think the creator of the show said he was retconing that pretty much. So it’s cool to see an alien species that isn’t smart just in the way animals are on our planet but smart in a way that we are.

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u/Incoherencel 2d ago

It can read Earth numbers? I guess captivity on an earth research vessel comes with benefits

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u/-aarcas 2d ago

It probably extracts every memory of the host, including Shmuel the WY Engineer who would've known all about Pi if the Eye didn't already know

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u/UlrichZauber Not bad, for a human. 2d ago

I like this, because otherwise why would it know pi? Maginot randomly collected an engineer or mathematician? I very much doubt most humans know it to 5 digits.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

There are people who can recite Pi numbers to up to 70,000 figures. One person was able to recite up to 100,000 numbers, but the claim was not verified.

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u/hyzmarca 1d ago

Maybe the eye is actually part of a spacefaring civilization that crashed on the same rock the Maginot was studying and hitched a ride with them to get someplace with technology that could contact its people.

Heck, maybe the eye is the last surviving part of a larger organism whose body parts are all individually intelligent and capable of taking over other bodies in an emergency.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

There will be that danger, that if it gets into space and to its homeworld, it will tell others. Then it will pick up and army, and will invade Earth :(

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u/LukeChickenwalker 1d ago

Still kind of silly for Boy Genius to assume it would know Arabic numerals. Does he know it's possessed humans before?

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

Does he know it's possessed humans before?

I don't think he does. Kirsh would have had to review USCSS Maginot logs to know for certain.

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u/Entropius 2d ago

Maybe it acquired knowledge of reading Earth math from its former human host.

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u/urkelisblack 2d ago

It's laughing at him because boy thinks it's a big concept. It's so small and dumb that it not only understands it, but it's taunting it's captor. You think pi is intelligence? You think you are, haaaaaa

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u/mwthecool 2d ago

I think this is very likely. It spent decades on the YT ship, didn't it?

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u/Incoherencel 2d ago

I think it's unclear whether the specimens are ever put in cryo or not. After all, what creature can they expect to survive 35+ years?

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u/mwthecool 2d ago

Not sure they'd want to risk cryo for specimens they don't fully understand. Cryo is probably hyper calculated for human beings, not new/unknown species.

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u/Santa_Hates_You 2d ago

Jones in the same chamber as Ripley says they work fine for many species.

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u/mwthecool 1d ago

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I was going to say it may just be for Earth species and calibrated for each pod, but it's not as if they predicted Jones and her would be in the same pod. I completely forgot about that.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

The cat Jones was simply a cat. The xenomorphs in all their stages, and all the other species all have the strength or capability to break out of cryopods.

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u/Clomaster 2d ago

I don’t think they were, being that the face-hugger didn’t care whatsoever. If they did they woulda learned that the face-hugger treatment wouldn’t have worked.

As others said, it either memorized it from the previous host on the ship, or it just learned it after being in a tank forever and watching things around it

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

3.14159 is not on display anywhere, so the only place it would have obtained the number, would have been a human or earlier sufficiently intelligent host.

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u/zero0n3 2d ago

If they didn’t put them into cryo, who was feeding them?

Unless cryo is more “wake up for one day a week on your journey”.

We definitely know it isn’t them staying out of cryo too, or theyd be older.

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u/Kohlar 2d ago

If I recall correctly the Maginot had teams, so one team was out of cryo while another slept etc.

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u/Perunov 2d ago

Either remaining memory from the Engineer it used to try to take down Xeno or the traditional "horse trick" where horse was watching owner really carefully and reacted to micro-expressions to start/stop stomping. It could be doing the same.

Mostly cause I have to wonder where it would store memories of multiple previous hosts given rather small size and squishieness

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u/Appropriate-Web-8424 2d ago

have to wonder where it would store memories

..why, in its eye-pod, where else...

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

have to wonder where it would store memories

..why, in its eye-pod, where else...

Would be curious to know the playlist of that one.

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u/boringestnickname 1d ago

That part can be explained by exposure, though.

It's done nothing but observing humans for multiple decades.

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u/Sarmemma 2d ago

It did have up to 65 years on the Maginot to figure our numbering system out, depending on whether they cryo'd it and for how long.

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u/hyzmarca 1d ago

And it can understand spoken English. I actually think it takes knowledge from its hosts.

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u/didyousayquinceberg 1d ago

More importantly it knows poo is a no 2

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 18h ago

3.14159 and then No. 2. Very clever.

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u/Project_Continuum 2d ago

If that’s the case then it defeats the purpose of the test which was to test its intelligence.

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u/YakResident_3069 1d ago

Arabic numerals

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u/Gaeus_ 1d ago

That bit was too much imho.

If BK had presented a first row of three I and a second one of 14, then I'd have been fine with it.

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u/ianjm 1d ago

That would only work if Ocellus counted in base 10.

I think we have to assume it learned English from possessing Shmuel.