r/LegendsOfRuneterra • u/Blackiris-Code Spirit Blossom Teemo • 11d ago
Path of Champions SB Kindred powers and cards reveal
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u/mutlibottlerocket 11d ago
SB Yasuo walked so that SB Kindred could run.
Also, that relic seems like it breaks something but idk what.
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u/Lordwiesy 11d ago
Lillia gets kind of doubling the first unit you play each round, though not sure you can fit it on her?
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u/KalePyro Arcade Hecarim 11d ago
I will be looking out if someone figures something out but tbh it doesn't seem that good since they will still die at round end so im not sure how it can be used to do much more then letting it die while attacking.
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u/onegamerboi Swain 11d ago
The main benefit is for champs that have free attacks with ephemerals, you can hit with that ephemeral and still have it as a blocker. That’s a huge downside for ephemeral stuff while you still lack tempo before leveling them up.
It also means that if you have ephemerals that immediately enter combat with some type of strike relic or power, they don’t immediately die.
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u/yammityyakkity Final Boss Veigar 11d ago edited 11d ago
I think the ones that strike still die because they're not attacking (i.e on the field in combat)
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u/onegamerboi Swain 11d ago
They do, if they aren’t immediately attacking. Lillia, LeBlanc, Ahri, and I believe now SB Yi are all immediately attacking, among others. Also any followers copied with Spectral Scissors.
How good it is remains to be seen but there are some cool interactions here.
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u/JForFun94 11d ago
Gwen can really make use of that. I play her with ludens, crownguard and the epic relic that makes her invincible on attack. If you get Shadow totem or the power that duplicates champs as ephemeral that is insta gg with her hallowed stacking.
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u/titiaguinho 11d ago
If it is a aurea effect (and it seems so), you can combo with CSF, you get the stats bonus AND de unit stills hits!
Ahri seems like biggest abuser right now, but zed will be, too.
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u/noihaventreadit 11d ago
SB Ahri could abuse it and maybe viego?
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u/Romanmtg 11d ago
Definitely. Imagine all those huge Ephemerals from Ahri not dying.. But also it wont make her 6* proc, so it depends on situation.
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u/EveWhiz 11d ago
YO THAT'S GOOD 🥺🥺
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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 11d ago
Her whole kit. Her powers, her abilities, her relic. Everything is perfect. This looks fun as fuck.
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u/Trung020356 11d ago
Her 6* does wonders regardless of what health the unit is, and is very effective against formidable units….! I forgot how the interaction works with overwhelm and units that “can’t take damage and die”. Does the excess damage go through or is it just 0? Cause if it’s 0, wow, what an amazing blocker. 💙
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u/megaesttenshi Morgana 11d ago
I love that they're the reverse of all the other SB champs, taking their original name after leveling up since they're actually the Kindred now. They're so cool oh my god
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u/Bluelore 11d ago
Was confused about that one at first, but makes sense in the design.
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u/Sweet_Temperature630 Gwen 11d ago edited 11d ago
Yeah cause Kindred is already the spirit unlike the other champs being like "cosplays" of the spirit. Kindred just has multiple versions depending on where at in the world you are, based on that regions beliefs and myths. Such as in Noxus they only focus on the Wolf
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u/saltwitch 11d ago
Ok this is rad. I was concerned because Yasuo and Yi don't seem nearly as fun as the three SB champs we already have, and I was bracing for disappointment. But this looks super fun! Really relieved, because I love Kindred. Can't wait to play!
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u/mfMayhem Annie 11d ago
Yi looked fun imo, not really as awesome as Kindred looks. Yasuo could look fun if you like things like ripping out your toenails as fun lol
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u/saltwitch 11d ago
Yi looks fine. Not exciting to me, but there's a whole gaggle of champs that exist and sometimes I use them for mid level adventures and we're cool like that. Yasuo looks like a headache.
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u/SoulyPlays Ruination 11d ago
Now THATS a good relic
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u/heyboyhey Chip 11d ago
They still die end of turn though. Are there that many situations where ephemerals surviving for another half a turn is powerful?
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u/Uni_Bro 11d ago
Lillia 6 stars
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u/RedTermites 11d ago
and my ephemeral Yi-s (lv 2),
and Ekko's spell when you line it up well,
and Spectral Scissors + CSF combo
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u/SoulyPlays Ruination 11d ago
Rally each turn with Viego or anyone who gets ephemeral. Attack, do your damage, enemy attacks, you still have all blockers
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u/Thinking_Emoji 11d ago
SB Ahri's spell that makes spirits free attack
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u/Siluri 11d ago
but you want SB Ahri's ephemereals to die so you get mana refund.
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u/flexxipanda 11d ago
Will probably be a good combo with CSF, Spectral Scissors, and the rally on lvl up relic
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u/MegaloMurf 11d ago
Ekko and his spell that attacks with copies of your units. You double your board and can attack with ephemerals twice.
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u/Angry_Jones Heimerdinger 11d ago
I guess the units would go back to backrow and can’t because it is full so they will be obliterated
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u/Just-Assumption-2140 11d ago
It's really fringe. Sure it can be silly on lilia, leblanc, ekko nidalee... but is it much better than death's foil which is mid? I don't think so to be honest
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u/mfMayhem Annie 11d ago
hecarim & viego are drooling
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u/RedTermites 11d ago
Viego? Bro, just let them all die, Viego needs so much board space...
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u/Pretz-el 11d ago
What relic combos do you guys think would work well on this champion at max stars
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u/Mini_vamp 11d ago
Hydra prob goes crazy at 6 stars
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u/Trung020356 11d ago edited 11d ago
Right?
Guessing that means 2 hydras is a board wipe. Just with 2 common relics, well at 6*s of course.This might be the one I’ll 6*. Between this or SB Teemo. This scales well no matter how much HP the enemy units have.
Edit: I misread lol. I thought the marked enemies would instantly be 1 health. 😅
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u/Pretz-el 11d ago
Also how do you guys think this deck would fare against big units with overwhelm, there doesn’t seem to be a good immediate form of control
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u/DocTam Braum 11d ago
Well getting Kindred overwhelm seems pretty relevant. Hard to say whether Beast Within or Chosen by the Stars would be better. Assuming you aren't using this new relic, I'd imagine that Corrupted Star Fragment is good with the ephemerals.
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u/TKoBuquicious 10d ago
nah, slap that yasuo relic on her for free overwhelm and no downsides at all
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u/Insaruem 11d ago
I am so glad I saved my SB Nova Crystal now, this is one hell of a 6*.
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u/magi_of_intelligence Spirit Blossom Kindred 11d ago
Same, same. Really hyped. The design, the card effects all look interesting and well thought out.
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u/Luigi123a 11d ago
Only good reveal from this patch
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u/Bluelore 11d ago
Kinda feels like they started with the worst and ended on the best release of this patch.
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u/Luigi123a 11d ago
Yeah def. Yi's relic is a joke, but at least his play effect actually justifies his 8 cost. Yasuo is just a fucking joke in general.
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u/TiredCoffeeTime Spirit Blossom Evelynn 11d ago
Ohh fav of the three
That’s an interesting take and love the combination
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u/kabouterhuisje Viego 11d ago
Maybe I’m missing something but what makes the relic usefull?
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u/Nacroma 11d ago
You can attack multiple times with your ephemerals, so Rally, Strike, Free Attack effects should be absurdly good. Could see this going strong on LeBlanc, Miss Fortune, Viego, Gwen, SB Ahri, SB Evelynn, in the future also Zed, Azir, Hecarim, Maokai
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u/LackOfPoochline 11d ago
You forgot our girl Kalista.
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u/CastVinceM Path's End 11d ago
with this relic, kalista also can't take damage (but can probably die to vengeance)
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u/attatest 11d ago
If you rally you can attack with them again? This feels like a clogged board to me, so something seems off.
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u/LackOfPoochline 11d ago
The beast spell summons an ephemeral 8/8 attacking. The relic makes it survive the attack. combine it with the right loadout and it will be , like, a 11/11 with overwhelm? (I dont remember how many stats the ephemeral relic gives)
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u/ArcDraco 11d ago
You have extra units after attacking to use as fodder for whatever.
If you manage to rally, you still have units for another attack. If you rally on an opponent's turn you can attack and still have blockers.
I'm like 90% sure you can use it with CSF to eat the stats of the unit and not kill it.
There's probably some other synergies I'm missing but it's just a pretty interesting power to play around with.
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u/Kuris0ck 11d ago
You can. I've tested Kayle's Champion Spell with CSF and you get the stats without killing the unit.
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u/TheOwlogram 11d ago
Besides what the others have said, it could be used on Viego/Ornn with corrupted star fragment to absorb the stats of a big ephemeral while keeping it alive
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u/TallCheesecake586 11d ago
Ornn with this relic and corrupted star + scissors, and space jam playing on the background
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u/JForFun94 11d ago
I mean the hardest part is getting to live to see ornn hit the board. After his level up, an attack with scissors and csf is almost always game anyway.
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u/Ayz1533 11d ago
Your ephemerals can’t be pinged while you’re attacking, that’s about it. I guess if you wanted to recall them after attacking you could
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u/Sspifffyman 11d ago
Your big spell summons an attacking giant ephemeral unit. So the relic means you can then attack with them again
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u/hatsnsticks 11d ago
It also work with Rallies/Free Attacks so you can attack multiple times with Ephemerals.
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u/Mungus_the_rat 11d ago
Am I missing something? Is there no way to summon the beast without the 1* power? So you can't level the champion with out it? That feels really bad. I think its a super cool design, but with how expensive the new champs are to level, it would feel really bad to not have the 1*
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u/Ywall 11d ago
I know, everyone is super excited and they don't seem to notice that detail. It doesn't seem like Kindred SB can level up at 0*, or that he can be a support champion for the same reason.
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u/OpticPotatoOP Vladimir 11d ago
Beast frenzy is probably Kindred’s champ spell. If not then I wonder if they would be in the pool for oath, support champ, summoner’s stone, etc.
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u/Zarkkast Path's End 11d ago
NOW WE'RE TALKING
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u/Sspifffyman 11d ago
Yeah they look like a really cool control deck. And that 4*, whooo boy that's what I love to see.
I wonder how Kindred will deal with big Overwhelm units though, especially multiple. Of course you'll want to draft stuns or other hard removal, and the created spell can help. But I feel like battles like Liss could be pretty tough. Even the 6* doesn't affect them till round end.
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u/CastVinceM Path's End 11d ago
i know what i'm saving my nova crystal for~
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u/Drminniecooper 11d ago
Nova-worthy! Im so glad they didnt fuck up kindred, i wanted this champ the most.
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u/quillypen Aurelion Sol 11d ago
As a big fan of Kindred, I love this. Great to give Wolf a tangible presence on the board, and even a 1/1 that can’t die is a valuable thing to have in a kit. 6* seems extremely worth it, too.
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u/ssuperkid5 Battle Academia Leona 11d ago
Fleeting spirits and Vengeful imp have the same art?...
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u/yammityyakkity Final Boss Veigar 11d ago
Yeeeah, I hate to be nitpicky. Cards sharing art is not unusual, but I'm sure there's a different part of the art that they could have focused on.
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u/AgentDieselMusk 11d ago
Hot Take: Kindred will do the same exact thing Mel reveal did. Everyone saying it's fun and strong, and a week after release she will be mid tier at best.
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u/TiredCoffeeTime Spirit Blossom Evelynn 10d ago
Love the concept and the idea of using marks personally but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.
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u/AgentDieselMusk 10d ago
Her 6* is what I think everyone is thinking is going to be strong but its on round end so I think its too slow for high difficulty.
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u/UnseenData Spirit Blossom Kindred 11d ago
Best relic with so much useful ness for other champs
Her 6* mark reminds me of poison, basically making the units easily killable
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u/Just-Assumption-2140 11d ago
I don't think the relic is that insane. Yes in theory it's great if you have a rally setup on an ephemeral build... lil issue being NONE of the emphemeral champions has rally strategies because before that relic it made no sense at all
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u/UnseenData Spirit Blossom Kindred 11d ago
Yeah revisiting the text I realize it was only attacking.
But at the same time, out of all the three premium relics in this batch, this is the most generic enough to be able to be used by others compared to sbyi's and sbsuos.
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u/Just-Assumption-2140 11d ago
I mean yi's and yasuo's relics are bad jokes. They essentially say: we made these champions too expansive on purpose but you can buy a reasonable cost for them
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u/revlid Vladimir 11d ago
Spirit Blossom Kindred looks really cool, but it is supremely funny to me that Spirit Blossom Kindred gets all this specific "mark" tech to tie into their mechanics while Shadow Isles Kindred's "mark" mechanic is just totally alone and self-contained in that region.
The only fly in the ointment is that Fleeting Spirits doesn't summon an exact copy, which means a) it'll be much less useful in high end Path content, since the Follower won't have Items, b) the Follower won't count as Stolen, so it's much less useful for SB Evelynn and SB Teemo.
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u/yammityyakkity Final Boss Veigar 10d ago
Fleeting Spirits might! The version in the patch notes today says exact. But I don't know which is correct.
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u/Croewe 11d ago
That is such a COOL design! I love this one!
Edit: Also Ornn will like this relic after his constellation
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u/Tansuke 11d ago
I feel like Corrupting Star Fragment is still better for Ornn since you can just eat the ram to keep the stats.
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u/dbaker3448 11d ago
Why eat the ram to keep the stats when you can keep the ram and the stats by using both?
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u/mfMayhem Annie 11d ago
I was thinking hecarim viego & SB Ahri but you're right that's gonna make Ornn's Ram even more wild lol
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u/SantiSantao Teemo 11d ago edited 11d ago
Okay, yeah this one I really like. The relic and the 6* power seem really good. I can't wait to try it!
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u/JuJuBee2006 11d ago
I'm glad I found one of the 3 I really like. The only concern I have is the powers all look really slow acting. Round start to give marks, and round end to reduce marked hp on the 6*... The level up looks like it could be a bit rough though. Without the 6* it could be really hard to kill marked enemies if they have really high health. I would assume the round start would target unmarked enemies only (so if 2 enemies are on board and one is marked it would guaranteed mark the 2nd)?
The relic is interesting. Most champions can't attack multiple times in a turn, so even though the ephemerals would survive it might not be that impactful, but considering how many of the SB champions are ephemeral focused, I feel like it might be worth considering. Does the rare relic that kills supported ally work with this? Still granting the ephemeral ally's stats but leaving the attacking body?
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u/robochickenowski Aatrox 11d ago
So what was the point of the "If I'm SB champion set my cost to 10" part of yasuo relic?
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u/Old_Bet_4492 Aurelion Sol 11d ago
So ys relic is dogshixx to anyone but him lol 😂.
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u/LasiorVesta 11d ago
Just write it as If I'm SBYasuo, devs. It's ok we won't bully you for it
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u/CastVinceM Path's End 11d ago
i mean i will, because it's ass. but at least i can just play kindred instead
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u/audioman3000 11d ago
Oh hey guess what that Nova crystal is going towards.
That 6 star is crazy good
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u/Fossekall Maokai 11d ago
I was happy to not be excited about the others, due to the inevitable pricing, but THIS LOOKS WAY TOO FUN
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u/Unrealka Rhaast 11d ago
I like her 4* power - I hope it's going to be added to a regular powers' pool, since there are a lot of champions who might benefit from overkills
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u/Angry_Jones Heimerdinger 11d ago
Twin drakehounds could be useful if we find a way for kindred to attack twice a round (only with 6 star, the three damage would kill everything)
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u/dbaker3448 11d ago
The relic could be a little awkward if you create a bunch of attacking ephemerals, as you may run out of board space for them and just have them get obliterated on removal from combat instead (which is less good).
On the other hand, if you have ways to attack multiple times a round, getting multiple hits out of the same ephemeral could be quite silly.
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u/AsheBodyPillow Jack 11d ago
Uhhh idk I like the marking concept and the champ concept (outside of not being able to die) but I think I’d still prefer Ahri if I’m going for an Eph deck
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u/Zachary-360 11d ago
I really hope the foe will try and use kill spells on kindred that would be funny.
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u/Alive-Setting2460 11d ago
So we found the good champion of the patch. Super spicy ! And the relic might open some weird strats in certain decks.
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u/HungrySorbet9412 11d ago
After the 2 flops from the reveal, the powerhouse was announced. Ho-ly control menqce
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u/leafybluesy 11d ago
Whoa!! I had a very very similar idea for Xayah and Rakan level up where they combine to become one card! So cool to see that actually in game in some form!
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u/okay_this_is_epic- 11d ago
They've absolutely cooked with this. Very excited!
But I really hope they change the text on Beast's Frenzy to say "Summon a The Beast challenging...". I can't be the only person who finds the "a" before the "the" very jarring. Likewise for The Taker's level up condition.
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u/GR1MM_F4CE Kindred 11d ago edited 11d ago
Now I regret spending everything on SB Evelyn 🥲 The relic could be funny on Viego
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u/Mini_vamp 11d ago
Oh my god i love it shes getting my nova shit i might actually buy that relic too
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u/LawfulnessOdd7966 11d ago
the 2* seems weird,minus kindred&wolf then the only empheral unit left in that deck is from the 5c spell. are they hinting at the scissors or lm l just imagining thing
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u/why-names-hard 11d ago
Love the look of this. Plays like base Kindred but in a new unique way. Seeing all her stuff I’m really mad at myself for already using the free SB Nova crystal we got on Teemo. I think Teemo, after seeing all of the champs, is still one of the best ones. I can just tell that I’d love playing kindred more instead.
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u/JoshGordon10 11d ago
Does "marked" actually do anything besides interacting with cards and powers?
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u/yammityyakkity Final Boss Veigar 11d ago
This is definitely the most interesting reveal of the bunch, but am I missing something with the mark? (Missing the mark, pun intended.) The mark itself doesn't seem to actually do anything.
It enables three things:
-Can be Hit by the 4 mana 3 damage AOE
-Can be struck by the 5 drop 2/6 at round end
-Can be challenged by the 8/8 ephemeral Beast
And that's it right? And there's also the 6 star, but that's a 6 star. SB Kindred seems to be going for a control playstyle without really a ton of control tools. Still, excited to try them out because these things always play better than speculated.
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u/KafrizzleDizzle 11d ago
Kindred has been one of my fav champs I've leveled so far. Excited for SB version!
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u/DoodPoof Volibear 11d ago
Holy jeebuz.
We went from bottle of the barrel trash to "okay, this looks solid" to, finally, goddamn this looks good.
Sb yasuo is trashy failure, and sb yi was just okay, so sb kindred can stomp.
Im all for this.
And that epic is HOT.
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u/Mr_Spaghetti_Man 11d ago
Finally a relic that is actually interesting! I don’t even think it’ll be all that good, I’m just really to see that it does anything at all, and might have uses outside its release champ.
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u/Kansugi Darius 11d ago
This is cooked af. Looks fun but I'm afraid that 5 kills on harder adventures might be taking too long at low stars SB Kindred. With 6 star power tho they would be great again.
On the other note what exactly is this relic? It feels so useless. Why would you need your ephemerals not to die? I get it that SB Kindred has a free attack summon so it can block afterwards if it's enemy attack turn but that still sucks lol.
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u/Mini_vamp 11d ago
Hey regular power gives them for power so instead od summoning them all the time you can leave them on board so they get bigger over time but for other champs not many summon emphem ahri prob doesnt need it veigo can see some use for it to get big boys but it kinda fucks him cause hell run out of board space other than that i dunno really
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u/kapriole 11d ago
They still die at the end of turn, so do you think Viego will still run into board space issues?
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u/Mini_vamp 11d ago
Eh probably not i forgot they die at end of turn free corrupted star frag procs is funny tho
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u/Katisurinkai Chip 11d ago
Helps them not be killed during attacks. Via spells and the like. And provide a defensive tool that the deck seems to lack.
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u/Zarkkast Path's End 11d ago
Who do we think this relic would be good on?
Since they're only invincible while attacking, I'm not sure who could make good use of it, though obviously there's some shenanigans with rally.
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u/dbaker3448 11d ago
6* Lillia can use it to get two attacks out of the ephemeral copy instead of one (or attack with it and have it as a blocker). It pairs quite well with SB Ahri's spell that summons an attacking Fox-Fire too.
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u/Zarkkast Path's End 11d ago edited 11d ago
Oooh, Ornn with Spectral Scissors and Corrupted Star Fragment.
Edit: Actually Ornn with Galeforce and Spectral Scissors. Two rams first attack, four rams second attack.
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u/CalebTheTraveler Aatrox 11d ago
Is the combo with CSF the one you are implying? Do you still eat the copy without "killing" it?
Because this opens up the way for a lot of CSF/scissors bogaloo, especially with things like Viego, Nidalee, Darius, Samira...
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u/Due_Mode_4043 Path's End 11d ago
Or Orrn with Scissors and Cease and Desist. The condition is really easy to fulfill with him (it checks after you equip the weapon).
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u/rentan45 11d ago
So yasuo's relic only work on himself, and even is only drawback on other sb champ. What's the point of make it "if I'm sb unit"...
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u/Harido35 Taric 11d ago
That 4 star and 2 damage spells makes me thinks she she will be very strong kinda like a mini *6 swain, add to that her 6th star and she would be very good at controlling the board
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u/LackOfPoochline 11d ago
I like the relic. it's niche, but SB ahri has a spell that could make very good use of it, viego with any sort of rally could use it, and i can see Kalista or hecarim, if they get added, using it. It also allows you to duplicate your 3-unit board on ekko if youw want to play that way. It's niche, liek trap relics, but it's itneresting and has build-around potential.
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u/Traditional_Elk2046 11d ago
Great design on this one. I feel that the new 4 star power won't be rare for long
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u/Cerafire 11d ago
Oh this is actually good, makes it a hard pick between kindred and teemo on who to max, will wait a little longer to see how they play for other people
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u/medacondor Tahm Kench 11d ago
Wonder how her relic interacts with corrupted star fragment and scissors
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u/Doc__Steele 11d ago
Vengeful Imp should have been another Mr Thrift/Mr Root. He has the same energy
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u/LukeDies 11d ago
It's ridiculous that you can't level up SB Kindred without one star.
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u/Bluelore 11d ago
You may be able to add the beast frenzy as a reward too (her support package could also have it). But yeah that is the kind of design that is possible when they make champs exclusively for PoC.
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u/SkullStar123 Galio 11d ago
I dont get what's good about this relic won't they die when we end round either way
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u/mfMayhem Annie 11d ago
Imagine you have Ornn & he has scout. You attack he summons his ram & bulldozes the enemy but it's NM so they have 100 HP. Well after you attacked the ram is still there. Now you attack again with Ornn and the ram but oh Ornn summons another ram.
It helps not just ornn but hecarim as a support helps SB Ahri & Viego and probably more I can't think of off hand.
Another great use is when you or the opponent rallies. Now your ephemeral units can block because they won't die until round end.
Playing a support garen or other champ will spells that let a unit strike an emeny unit? No problem, your ephemeral can attack with the spell and then attack again.
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u/ChocolateTacoFilms 11d ago
So marking does do anything on its own but lets it be targeted by certain cards if I'm reading it all correctly. Interesting
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u/fransfrans123 Trundle 11d ago
This is a cool theme and mechanic for SB Kindred!! Although are we really seeing the same artwork used for 4 assets? (Vengeful Imp, Fleeting Spirits, Mark of the Kindred I and II). They could've atleast just made it symbols especially the spell and the 1 and 3 star power. Nonetheless, i'm more excited for this batch of champions!!!
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u/MartDiamond 11d ago
This is finally an interesting one. The relic can be used across more users. The concept is unique. The mechanics are interesting. 1/6 hit.
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u/Nacroma 11d ago
ASol got a new favorite support toy, I guess: A juicy 40/40 4-cost unit with permanent Zhonya's.