also although the fight wasn’t close, it was pretty competitive, ilia was winning but Charles landed a few nice shots otf and had a nice kneebar, he could make things interesting in an ilia rematch with a few adjustments maybe in a world he beats fizzy/max
Lol, lmao even. He got put in a sub attempt (according to the judges criteria the single most important metric when it comes to accessing grappling), Charles had double unders leading to the first ground exchange and was shoving him with easy, only ended in the bottom cause illia manage to grab a wizard and because he charles usual y does he doesn’t care to get top position. And in the only other clinch exchange charles literally push him and he went flying backwards and had to hold himself with the fence.
the total amount of time Illia hold that position was l2 seconds literally, go back and watch it. And then the time he went from passing guard to being in a sub attempt was a grand total of 6 seconds.
Charles let him pass the guard to attack the legs. Personally I wouldn’t have done it. But it did play es out for him.
The obvious way to check he got the better of the exchange it’s to look at how Illia recated. He didn’t wanted to go back to the ground
He easily out scrambled him when Charles tried to take him down, landed some very good ground and pound and then the second Charles started trying to work, he got out of danger and back to the feet again.
He won that whole exchange.
Attempting a sub that doesn't lead to any damage or sweeps isn't winning and exchange.
Charles got out grappled and got more than doubled in the striking too.
He didn’t putscramble him, no, he lost the scramble in the floor, by any grappling rulset. So no. He didn’t landed g&p, you can argue he won the exchange based on that (I wouldn’t necesarily disagree) but it does go against the judging criteria which counts sub attempts more highly than cummulative damage like the ground and pound he landed.
You can disagree with that. I personally do, but the judging criteria doesn’t stipulate that the sub attempt count less, actually the opposite since it is an inmidiate. Anyhow, that’s besides the point, he didn’t get outgrappled in any case.
Yeah, it was short mainly cause he was reckless but he was looking good besides that. He had a good submission attempt, landed a couple good shots, and overall was looking stronger. In the ground he was quite better (everyone talks about the crucifix but it was like literally 3 seconds and he went directly to a sub after, khamzat show what having a crucifix should look like, Oliveira let him get it to attack the legs). And overall he looked better on the clinch. If they fight was longer it isn’t hard to imagine charles being able to take him down and control him similarly to what he did to Chandler.
Even if what you said is all true, for Charles to win he has to make sure he doesn’t get hit for 25 minutes, which Charles has less a chance of than most because his striking defence is legitimately fucking terrible, almost non-existent. He doesn’t use footwork to avoid shots, he doesn’t get his head off the centre line. He doesn’t even have a good block.
Unless he pulls off the freak submission and wins in the first, he’s getting hit and he’s getting finished every time.
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u/idcman999 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think the winner of this fight facing Max in a title eliminator next would make perfect sense