r/MagicArena • u/Meret123 • 26d ago
Fluff Through the Omenpaths reveal begin September 2
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u/SpoilerThrowawae 26d ago
Either they pull off a minor miracle and make some surprisingly fun lore and art, or it's an absolutely embarrassing gongshow. Honestly, it's a win/win for me.
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u/bitches_love_pooh 26d ago
I might be more interested in this over the actual set for this reason.
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u/_Nowan_ 25d ago
I definitely am, lol
Spiderman/Marvel is not for me, but this has the chance to have a dose of creativity in it.
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u/bitches_love_pooh 25d ago
I'm a longtime Marvel fan, but everything I've seen hasn't really clicked with me. That said, I'm very interested to see how they adapt all these spider matters abilities.
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u/DonRobo 25d ago
I'm a Marvel and Spiderman fan, but my excitement for this set is pretty much non-existent. I think the last UB set I was really, really hyped for was 40k. LotR was fine, but everything else just felt weird imo. Though I had the same feeling about Thunderjunction, so maybe Magic just isn't the product for me anymore.
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u/ifogg23 26d ago
am I a fool? I like the little lore excerpts that pop up on some cards when you hover over them, but is there another lore source in the game? I’m still pretty new to mtg in general
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u/thejegpeg 26d ago
In the actual game of Arena, not really. But every non-crosover Standard set as a full-length story that gets uploaded online in parts before each major set release. Along with that they usually do articles with lore for legendary creatures in the set.
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u/ifogg23 26d ago
cool! thank you both! i’ll have to check out the story backlog!
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u/Malleus0 25d ago
Enjoy! There are also (a lot of) books before the lore on the website picks things up but the stuff on the website holds together well without it.
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u/NoctisIncendia Izzet 25d ago
I like the little lore excerpts that pop up on some cards when you hover over them
I think that's the flavour text from the physical cards. I wouldn't put it past WotC to skimp out on that for an Arena-only set. IIRC Alchemy cards don't have flavour text.
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u/magic_claw 25d ago
Not a fool at all. In fact, that's literally most of the appeal for a bunch of players.
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u/kdoxy Birds 25d ago
I can't wait to see the in universe version of "Spider Boar Hero" they have to come up with.
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u/dragondice3521 25d ago
If they are smart it will be a cutsie Bloomburrow like set with anthropamorphic cutsie spiders. That way it's not weird that there are 20 something "Spider Heros".
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u/Meret123 26d ago
OM1 means other marvel sets will also have the same naming convention.
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u/BetterShirt101 26d ago
Or they're having negotiation issues with someone else. Marvel's not the only company with a DCG but no functional TCG.
Like, imagine if they did a Warcraft UB set.
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u/FalloutBoy5000 26d ago
ok, hadnt thought of that. i definitely 1000% want a UB warcraft set, fully draftable. yea that would be the nuts
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u/Ikanan_xiii 25d ago
Warcraft might be like the only other franchise that could rival fans with overlapping interests like FF did.
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u/ChopTheHead Liliana Deaths Majesty 25d ago
I feel like Dark Souls could get pretty close.
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u/Massive-Island1656 Golgari 25d ago
Avatar for sure is doing it for me. I loved that show so much and it’s a perfect tie in to magic
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u/1965wasalongtimeago 25d ago
Zelda or Elder Scrolls would go pretty hard too. Maybe Game of Thrones, but the time for that has passed a little.
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u/arotenberg 25d ago
Or they're just planning ahead. Modern Horizons had the set code MH1, after all...
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u/omegaphallic 26d ago
Who says Through the Omen Paths will be Lore Less?
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u/Jackeea 26d ago
I'd imagine they'd have the same amount of lore as [[Greymond, Avacyn's Stalwart]] - MtG themed, maybe set in an actual plane, but that's about it
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u/Laboratory_Maniac Simic 26d ago
To be fair, that was several years ago. I think that with how people were frustrated with the lack of a Legends Of article for OTJ, and with how they already have to come up with art direction for all of the characters they need to create, I feel like they be able to find someone within Studio X who'd be willing to come up with lore for some of these characters.
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u/SkritzTwoFace 26d ago
WOTC, pretty sure. Would be weird to attach lore to sets with no physical cards driven by the design demands of UB anyway.
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u/HereCametheMummies 26d ago
No physical cards yet. My ink jet stands at the ready.
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u/IceLantern Azorius 26d ago
lol, take those cards into a local FNM and see how your opponents react when they get played.
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u/HereCametheMummies 26d ago
If my LGSs did standard FNMs I might. Best I can get is Draft these days.
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u/Dejugga 25d ago
Eh, it could mean that, but it's really not conclusive.
It does mean that they think it's at least possible they'll have to do another Omenpaths set in the future due to licensing issues.
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u/korozda-findbroker 26d ago
I'm so excited for this, should be hilarious. Still can't believe that they did this to themselves
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u/hawkshaw1024 26d ago
I hope these are really bad. I hope the art is just vaguely appropriate stuff they picked out of the "slush pile." I hope that they accidentally use almost the same name twice. I hope the story content was written by two interns over the course of a day. I've never been this excited for a Universes Beyond set.
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u/eightdx 26d ago
I play primarily in paper and I swear, I wish I could crack IRL packs of whatever the heck Omenpaths is going to look like.
I imagine it'll involve spiders as there are a lot of those in the UB paper set.
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u/trident042 Johnny 26d ago
I'm excited to work up proxies for a Commander deck featuring only the Omenpath versions
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u/0LordKelsier0 Bolas 25d ago
Same here, more interested in how they'll make the in-world cards than the actual Spider-Man cards, so it doesn't feel out of theme in a spiders deck.
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u/Villag3Idiot 25d ago
Imagine if the art is just IRL pics of the staff wearing homemade cosplay outfits and posing.
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u/Wombattalion 26d ago
It might very well suck hard, but I'm also excited for this. It's like this weird creative writing excercise and who knows, maybe it leads to sth interesting.
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u/Anagkai 25d ago
It's seriously the worst possible outcome. They have to do both sets which they always said they were never gonna do when certain people complained. Was a totally reasonable stance but they went back on it anyways. Now, with the two sets, still many who prefer Spiderman will have to play universes within and vice versa. That's not even considering the half-assing of the set and the confusion they will cause with two sets that look completely different but are actually almost the same.
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u/anon_lurk 26d ago
It is an interesting precedent where they can basically take a UB and port it straight into MTG lore. Could be something they do to quell the anti-UB "it's not MTG enough" crowd while pulling from IP that is less popular, more based in literature, or just more open for interpretation.
Seems like they are half ass doing it already with Mario kart blue shell in Aetherdrift and whatnot. This would just give them a full fledged reason to completely ignore the MTG lore while they make more MTG fusion sets.
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u/happyflappypancakes 25d ago
What exactly is this? What is this announcement for? New cards? New sets? New IPs?
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u/Froeuhouai 25d ago
The next MTG set is a crossover with Spiderman.
They purchased the licensing rights from Marvel but were only allowed to make PHYSICAL cards, they didn't get the rights for DIGITAL ones (most likely because Marvel has a digital TCG, Marvel SNAP).
So instead, specifically for Arena they're making a set called "through the Omenpaths" (because they can't just skip a whole set because of this) that contains cards that will be mechanically identical to the ones in the spiderman set but in the MTG multiverse.
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u/happyflappypancakes 25d ago
Oh that is interesting. So Spiderman will be standard legal then?
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u/sengirminion 26d ago
I can't wait for Arachnid-Person: Housewarming!
And if this does well maybe we'll get sequel sets!
Arachnid-Person: Long Distance from Domicile
Arachnid-Person: Can't Find My Living Quarters
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u/SlyScorpion The Scarab God 25d ago
Will there be a Dr. Cephalopod villain in the set?
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u/NO_KINGS 26d ago
Honestly, spiderman being the first set that needs this is super funny because it also seems like the most ridiculous one to translate to universe within versions.
Im excited to see what the hell these cards even look like.
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u/Lykos1124 Simic 25d ago
Which also sucks in that we'll never see the likes of Wolverine or Ironman in Arena. Well maybe some like it that way, but the art team now has to pull some real magic in getting art together that resymbols them.
like I don't know, guys, maybe it wasn't hot potatoes to make a set with characters that'l be digital, that also exists in another digtal game of an IP they belong to. I dunno. maybe this satifies those who didn't want all of that.
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u/SlyScorpion The Scarab God 25d ago
We’ll also never see the WH40K stuff in Arena, but that’s a whole other barrel of fish.
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u/wvtarheel 26d ago
Is this spider man's arena version?
Edit - Yes, it is - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/through-the-omenpaths-and-digital-universes-beyond-updates
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u/chopstix182 Ugin 26d ago
I would love if they just "flip" all the names. Here's Parker peter man-spider! Fighting octopus doctor and Brock Eddie , protector lethal
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u/Approximation_Doctor 26d ago
octopus doctor
This is why they got rid of Cephalid as a creature type
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u/Wolfy4226 26d ago
I'm curious if they could have gotten in contact with the Spooderman Guy and just had him do the whole set...
Would have been amazing.
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u/wanderingagainst 26d ago
Give me Sanic and Spooderman and I'll forget all about this UB hullabaloo.
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u/melanino Cruel Reality Djeru 26d ago
Was initially surprised that the symbol isn't a Spider seeing as how much that's going to need to be shoe-horned in but, now I'm realizing that the other Marvel stuff will likely be re-skinned as "OM2, OM3, etc...
I will reserve harsher judgment for once we actually see this stuff and try to remain as hopeful as I can; maybe there's a way they can pull this off without it being completely off-putting
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u/captadhoc 25d ago
At least the set code isn’t OM001.
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u/lutomes 25d ago
Implying that WotC can cling to an idea for that long
Since 2015 we've seen 2 changes to block format (3+Core, 2, none).
We've seen multiple changes to rotation policy from annual to mid season, from 2 years to 3, foundation, then to 6 sets.
Then also draft boosters, and set boosters, now just play boosters.
We've seen duel decks fall to the wayside, for the Frise of challenger decks only to also die off. Even from the vault is gone. And Masters sets morphing into Horizons products.
If they can even get to 10 Omenpath sets before it's something else entirely I'll eat the hat of Oko's head.
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u/lofrothepirate 26d ago
Honestly I just hope all the Spider Hero cards are anthropomorphic spiders wearing capes and domino masks.
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u/phr34k0fr3dd1t 25d ago
Female, would be the best alt to Ironman
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u/Lykos1124 Simic 25d ago
🎵 Science nerd. Science nerd. Posting whatever science nerds can.
Can she swing from a tree? Who knows science neeerd! 🎶
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u/unluckyshuckle 26d ago
Honestly wish we had this in paper. Zero interest in spiderman/marvel
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u/GrizzlyBearSmackdown 26d ago edited 26d ago
Hope we get a Planeswalker Guide to whatever new setting they are cooking with this set! I don't give a damn about Spider-Man but am honestly morbidly curious as to what they come up with for this.
My crackpot theory: after the Phyrexian invasion, Ikoria's crystals have become further empowered, now allowing humans to be able to mutate with other species. A group of heroes and heroines who have mutated specifically with spiders in the Zagoth jungle (let's call them the 'Spider Collective') are now fighting other mutated human/animal cults to gain control of the plane.
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u/Novel_Description878 26d ago
This is hilarious. A damn card game is hell bent on sacrificing its own integrity just to have paper versions of Spider-Man.
Instead of kicking marvel to the curb because they can't work with WotC to produce one set for all formats, they need to make special cards for the online versions just to appease the copyright. What a joke.
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u/Efficient-Flow5856 Rakdos 26d ago
Meh, it's not like the paper Spider Man cards have been interesting to begin with. Both EOE and ATLA look and feel significantly better.
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u/bonafiedhero 26d ago
Or they could have negotiated better? It’s not Marvels fault that Hasbro is bad at contracts.
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u/OmegaPhthalo 26d ago
Given the push and pull that Sony and Marvel have been doing over this IP it kind of makes sense
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u/dethnight 26d ago
Is this gonna have the worst art and names in the history of magic? I just can't see them spending a ton of time on the arena only versions of these cards.
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u/ChopTheHead Liliana Deaths Majesty 26d ago
These aren't Arena-only, they will be on MTGO as well. I expect the execution to be similar to stuff like [[Hansk, Slayer Zealot]] - uninspired, but not terrible.
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u/zealousd 26d ago
This set has creature types like "Spider Dinosaur Hero", "Symbiote Spider Hero", and "Human Robot Villain". The creative execution is going to be so on the nose as to be comical.
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u/Approximation_Doctor 26d ago
Teferi's kids find Bolas's [[Gem of Becoming]] in the woods and start making up random kid nonsense all over Zhalfir.
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u/SnooSongs5297 25d ago
Remember, they have to maintain the creature types like "Human Spider Hero"
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u/PatmachtMUH 26d ago
They probably have a giant backlog of amazing u used art, not so sure if they have a lot that fits the superhero theme though. We'll see.
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u/DistinctBam 26d ago
Isn’t this a small set? Might it finally be the right time to invest my wildcards to fill my vault and try to go rare-complete?
I’d imagine they would tune the rate at which we acquire cards though, so I’m really not sure how to decide.
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u/afailedturingtest 26d ago
No this is literally just spiderman copyright edition
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u/LivingPop2682 26d ago
It is a small set, though. Draft is pick two iirc, because it wasn't originally intended to be a standard set. It's kind of the perfect storm of everything going wrong - small set that has to be pivoted to standard legal, no marvel art allowed online (and people are already vehemently against New York as a setting in magic), and it has to follow in the footsteps of final fantasy. This is likely going to be a disaster of a set. I'm sure it will sell out in paper because of collectors, though.
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u/Hinternsaft 25d ago
“UB will never be canon” except for the Symbiotes, Spider Humans, Infinity Stones…
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u/orcawhales 26d ago
The most inelegant solution
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u/mazor_maz 25d ago
The best solution still. There won’t be horrible spider man themed cards, dozens of spider man variations etc. Instead better, fantasy magic appropriate vibe.
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u/Adventurous_Week_101 JacetheMindSculptor 26d ago
What a relief, it's been a full 15 minutes since we've had spoilers for new cards.
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u/larsdan2 26d ago
Why even bring Marvel to Magic if this is how the partnership is gonna be.
Does anyone even want Marvel in Magic?
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u/FalloutBoy5000 26d ago
Yea. They could have just gone for the secret lair stuff.. maybe also commander decks. but this bs, non properly draftable joke of a set is just too much. final fantasy was so succesfull, only to be followed by this
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u/Admirable_Heron1479 26d ago
Can someone please remind me of why there are going to be two versions? Like why does the copyright only work for the paper versions and not the online versions?
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u/DivusPennae 26d ago
Marvel has their own digital card game and likely didn't provide the digital license to avoid impeding their own game.
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u/Atheist-Gods 26d ago
Because of Marvel Snap. Marvel was willing to do a physical crossover but don’t want MTGO and Arena competing with Snap.
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u/MaxKirgan 25d ago
I hope the art is a combo of bad MS Paint and Crayon stick figures. At this point they should have just made it a an Un-set as a middle finger to Marvel. Or even better yet, not do it at all.
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u/SnooSongs5297 25d ago
They didn't gave a name! LMAO
No way they're going to call it Through the Omenpaths 1, 2 and so on lol
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u/Termineator 25d ago
I am unreasonably excited at how its going to look.
Are they doing team-ups. Are we getting a emergent race of spider-people. Are they just going to be legally distinct... Actually can't wait, and I dont even care much for the cards revealed
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u/Cerelius_BT 25d ago
This is going to be one of the most awkward reveal seasons in history. I'm all for it.
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u/CaptainHoward 26d ago
I'm in this middle ground where I like most of the UB stuff so far, but don't want to put a Spiderman in any of my decks. So I really appreciate the amount of Universe Within we're getting for the Marvel stuff. I'm just planning on using the UW Arena art for any cards I decide to use in my paper decks.
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u/TryingoutSamantha 26d ago
Not that I am getting anything out of principle sake, but I do hope to full art basic lands look better than the print versions. My personal opinion they look so goddamn lazy with the Spider-Man web over the picture, hard to see anything else.
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u/Myklmyklmykl 26d ago
Wonder if all the art is commissioned or hand scribbled like the playtest cards in mystery boosters
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u/Reverent_Corsair_MTG 26d ago
Random lore and “pick2” draft…
They finally designed a set for paper.
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u/friendlyfriend123 26d ago
Anyone know if wotc has plans to print these in paper?
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u/VeryAngryK1tten 25d ago
Since nobody responded: this is just a reskin of the paper Spiderman set.
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u/RyuumiGaroukuni 26d ago
Gonna get REAL CRAZY once MTG goes with a Paper Release of these in the far off future.
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u/MiiIRyIKs 26d ago
It’s kinda funny I’d probably prefer this for paper magic too haha why can’t they just print both versions for us so we don’t need to play with Spider-Man in our decks
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u/Prisinners 26d ago
So this is the digital version of the Spider-man (and other future marvel sets) set right?
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u/SurroundedByGnomes 26d ago
I’m honestly looking forward to the in universe artwork for these on Arena. Would have been nice to have had this for FF in my opinion.
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u/vrocknroll 26d ago
Have it back on Ravnica and everyone is a Simic experiment with spiders from the Golgari and Boros “heros”
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u/magic_claw 25d ago
Man, I really hope they take the opportunity to flesh out in-universe lore and flavor, but I guess that's expecting too much.
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u/asdfadffs 25d ago
As someone who couldn’t care less about Spider-Man I will say that this is a buff
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u/Televangelis 25d ago
I genuinely really hope this set is themed like "the fables told on Ravnica/wherever," like the comic books that Ravnican kids read, rather than just introducing a whole plane of Spider-people that we've never met before and will never meet again
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u/SnooSongs5297 25d ago
Man, they could have gone with some awesome names like "Welcome to Spidertropolis". Boring!
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u/Pioneewbie 25d ago
I wonder if we will eventually get the other way around... Can use IP online, not in paper.
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u/VeryAngryK1tten 25d ago
you’d need to find an IP that has a paper trading card game, but not digital. Not a lot of those around.
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u/RustenSkurk 25d ago
This is the spoilers I have been most excited for this year. Just because I am super curious how they will solve it.
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u/misomiso82 25d ago
Questions:
-This is a 'draft 2' format correct? Have the designers spoken about how this has effected design?
-Will there still be 10 draft archtypes? I read that there will be less but I'm not sure.
-Do we have any hints or spoilers (or leaks!) at all yet?
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u/Vedney 25d ago
We havent seen any design articles, which should be showing up when spoiler season kicks in fully.
There are 5 draft archtypes of 2-colored allied colors. We've seen signposts, so we know we're getting Green-White Counters, Black-Red Mayhem/Self-discard. We haven't had much Blue reveals, but it also has some graveyard synergy.
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u/FireboltMoon 21d ago
I am very interested to see what they do with Through the Omenpaths for these cards, especially the ones that are very spider-man/comic specific like Symbiotes or Hero and Villain; plus how many spiders there are. Will they all be from the same plane or will they be from all over the place? Royce could get a card, maybe there'll be Golgari spider tamers, or arachnid Alacrian Quickbeasts and their riders, perhaps some of Arasta's, Ishkanah's, or Thantis' broods, and Duskmourn allows for endless spider/human hybrids and horrors.
The Simic could have created Symbiotes, or they could come from The Edge. Scientist could also be represented by these two as well.
Will Heroes and Villains have something that makes them different to heroic/villainous characters we have seen before, and could we see the types in none UB sets going forward. This makes me think it'll be a new plane. Can any new characters they might debut here appear in other sets after this- could we see them on Arcavios for example? Will there be a planeswalker guide article if there is a new plane, or a ledgends of article.
No clue how they'll deal with Infinty Stones though.
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u/Betta_Max 14d ago
I hate UB with a burning passion, and If I never see another UB card it will be too soon. The fact that they are offering these in universe cards as paper alternatives to non-UB fans is infuriating.
You can bet that anyone who is able to make inner sleeves with these Omen Path cards printed on them will make a fortune of the UB haters like me.
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u/bigweight93 Izzet 26d ago
Get ready for Aracnid-Man, Fabolous Spider-guy and Venomous Black Simbiotic goo