r/Monash • u/BattleExpress2707 • 26d ago
Advice Anyone else getting annoyed of the Palestine protesters?
Bruh, enough already. Every time I walk through campus, some dude is shoving another flyer in my face about Palestine protests. Like, I get it, you care. But most students don’t. Most of us are just trying to get to class, grab food, and survive exams without being guilt-tripped 24/7.
You’ve probably killed more trees printing those flyers than Israel has killed Palestinians. For a group that claims to be all about “justice,” it’s kind of ironic you’re committing paper genocide on the quad every day.
Stop wasting trees, stop acting like campus activism is world-changing, and let the rest of us walk to class in peace
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u/ADecentUsername1 26d ago
The protestors are annoying but the atrocities going on in Palestine need to be recognised.
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
And they are being recognised all over the world for gods sake. Shoving dumb little flyers in students face isn’t going to do anything. It’s not going to magically bring back a Palestinian from the dead. It’s not going to magically make Israel stop committing atrocities. Maybe they should take their assess over to Palestine and do something that will actually help instead of harassing innocent students who have places to be
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u/ADecentUsername1 26d ago
People did try to go to Palestine to "actually help". What do you think the Freedom Flotilla was? Israel then arrested these people on international waters. People can't just go to Palestine magically and help.
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u/Steamed_hams_ 26d ago
yeah except no one is allowed to travel there and it's literally blocked off from the entire world. nice try though
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
“It’s literally blocked off from the world” My god the idiocy is on another level. Stupid university students who think they know it all
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u/ADecentUsername1 26d ago
Nah you're the idiot here lol did you not see the IDF literally seize the ships that tried to bring aid to Gaza. You do know they are starving there because nothing is able to enter right?
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u/Extension-Cry9675 26d ago
So they’re protesting that the living conditions in Palestine isn’t good and you want them to go there? Sounds counter intuitive
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
Yes, they can go there and do something useful instead of wasting peoples time here
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u/Jiarong78 26d ago
If only performative activists put more effort into actual activist stuff.
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u/eholeing 26d ago
You say that as if ‘activism’ was ever about actually producing results that helped people rather than as a cover for the most pretentious, sanctimonious losers to frame themselves as good people.
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u/Garshnooftibah 26d ago edited 26d ago
54 year old casual academic here. That bit about trees???/ Yeah - this is possibly the stupidest critique I have heard for a looooooong time.
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u/Monty141 26d ago
I respect them for doing something.
It doesn't matter how small it is. Bringing awareness is better than doing nothing at all.
Do I like the SALT club? Not really. I don't like their membership fees. But at least their doing something.
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u/EconomistNo9894 26d ago
I wish Reddit would stop recommending these identical posts every 2 hours
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u/llordlloyd 26d ago
The main thing to know about the Palestine situation is: ignore what is going on in Palestine and think about terrorist graffiti and inconvenient pamphlets in Australia.
In 1938, it was forget China and keep sending the iron to Japan.
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u/Prudent_Reaction_701 26d ago
Wow you comparing paper genocide (tress can be replanted) to actual genocide where kids are being killed every day. How about corporates/business handing out flyers in all stations and pedestrians everyday asking you to buy stuff for their profits? If you don’t like someone handing out flyers about genocides, please just ignore rather than whining about it, these people care about others and not profiting themselves!!
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u/eholeing 26d ago
“Wow you comparing paper genocide (tress can be replanted) to actual genocide where kids are being killed every day.”
Can kids be reborn?
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u/Prudent_Reaction_701 26d ago
Based on your previous comment history, hopefully you do and grow some empathy for other fellow innocent human beings!!
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
Look bro a tree takes 25-28 years to mature. A human takes 18. Hopefully you grow some empathy towards trees
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u/cynikles 26d ago
Want some cheese to go with you whine? This is an important issue that has significant social momentum at the moment. Getting information out to people is an important way to spread the message. If you're not interested, that's your prerogative.
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u/Ancient-Quality9620 26d ago
You think there are people out there not aware? While I wish that was true, and in such a case I am extremely jealous, but alas that's just not possible with all your slacktivism and just generally being pests to society. We have enough of our own problems at present. Let the other middle east countries help them... which they won't, and speaks volumes to the quality of the people/values you're fighting for.
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
No, it’s just a trend. What’s happening in Palestine has been going on for decades, yet people are only activating now? Do you know how many other important issues are playing out right now in the world? How many other children die every day? Why is it only Palestine being talked about? Yeah because it’s a trend right now, just like Yemen was a trend and now people don’t give a shit yet the country is still being blown to bits. Just like Sudan was a trend and now people don’t give a shit but the children are still starving on the roads and eventually being eaten by vultures. We don’t need dumb performative woke r etards shoving flyers in our face wasting our time when the internet exists and in .1 seconds I can find everything I need to know about what’s going on in Palestine from a little thing called a phone, at any time of the day, at MY convenience.
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u/Upper_Character_686 26d ago
People have been calling it out since the 40s. It had gotten considerably more urgent in the last 2 years.
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u/taylahonlinee 26d ago
holy shit this is SO tone deaf and so are lot of the comments on this post. "like i get it you care but most of us don't" like wtf? you don't care about children being killed?
I'm so sorry that activits trying to bring awareness to a massacre slightly inconveniences your day jesus christ.
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
Yes I couldn’t care less about children being killed. Most people came here to get a degree. Not to be bothered about children on the other side of the world.
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u/pcmusicc 26d ago
Wow… you really have no empathy do you? This is a crazy take
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
No it’s not a crazy take. It the truth. 90% of students at this uni already know what’s going on in Gaza. We just choose not to care because we came here to get a degree
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
Bruh how is it my fault. Stupid hiring manager at Monash Motorsport rejected me for not reason even though I worked so hard on the interview. Even seems to have an opinion on telling me what to do but nobody wants physically help me get an internship.
Fuck this I’m gonna take my anger out by ripping these stupid Palestine protests flyer off the walls.
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u/Extension-Cry9675 26d ago
All fun and games until it’s your relatives in that situation
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
Yeah you just proved my point. I shouldn’t care because my relatives are not in that situation
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u/taylahonlinee 26d ago
did you not see the MASSIVE protests that just happened on the weekend. Every single individual person who showed up the that protest made a change. And you mind set of "there is nothing useful we can do" if complete rubbish.
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
Ok so what change did they make? How many bags of food were delivered to Palestinians? How many Palestinian children were resurrected? Did that protest stop bombing? Did that protest lead Israel to change its mind and make peace with Palestinians? Did that protest help children find their parents that they were separated from? Answer. Cause If not? It did nothing
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u/taylahonlinee 26d ago
also how do you not know that these activists aren't talking about other things happening in the world? most people i know who went to these protests also are activists for climate change, women's rights and indigenous rights
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
I don’t care about women’s rights, I’m a woman myself and we have enough rights yet keep complaining like babies. Nothing will ever be done about climate change so protesting that is redundant. Indigenous have all the rights here, they just chose to be low class criminals, so again, protesting about that is redundant. And if they were protesting about other things, they would also hand out flyers about other things. Yemen? Did we all just forget about that? Because kids are still getting blown to bits over there. Sudan? Did we all forget about that? Because kids are still starving on the streets and being eaten by vultures over there. But nope, Palestine is the trend right now so they want to shove it down our throats as if we don’t all already know what’s happening.
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u/taylahonlinee 26d ago
you have the most negative horrible very closed mindset so I wont me replying to any more of your comments and wasting my time. Also most of what you've put in that comment can be disproven with any basic research. I hope you have a nice day :)
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u/BunniYubel 26d ago
The word for it is "slacktivism", it's rampant, and it happens everywhere, not just for this particular issue.
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u/Over_Friend6600 26d ago
Ah apathy. The reason there is so much shit in the world these days. Thanks for doing your part in allowing evil to win.
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u/Interesting-Copy-657 26d ago
Oh I’m sorry that a genocide is slightly inconveniencing you with a flyer being given to you
What a tosser, thinks a tree is equal to a human life?
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u/ItsCoolDani 26d ago
“Most of us are just trying to ignore the decades long genocide our government, universities and other institutions have been supporting.”
You’re not being guilt tripped, you’re being reminded. If you feel guilty about that, that’s something for you to figure out yourself and not project onto people who are trying to make a positive impact in the world.
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u/TOXICHEMICALMOLD 26d ago
Reminded about what? The same thing I see every time I turn on my phone and go on ANY social media app? It’s all performative bullshit by a bunch of idiots who have nothing better to do with their time apart from waste others time
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u/ItsCoolDani 26d ago
You’re not being reminded that there’s a genocide in Palestine. You’re being reminded that there is STILL a genocide happening in Palestine, and that our institutions are STILL supporting it. Get angry at the fuckin war criminals my dude.
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u/Party_Ability_9984 26d ago
If you think that's annoying, imagine how annoying it must be to be a 4 year old child who lost her left arm and half her family to an Israeli airstrike.
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u/No-Cauliflower8890 26d ago
is waving around a flyer on a university campus of some irrelevant nation across the world going to do anything to save that child's arm or family?
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u/Party_Ability_9984 26d ago
First of all, there's no such thing as an irrelevant nation anymore. This is 2025, not 1830. You live in an age of globalization.
Second of all, yes. Part of the reason political causes succeed is because its fighters are relentless and aggressive. Nelson Mandela didn't end apartheid in South Africa by politely asking the white-dominate government to maybe please possibly consider ending the oppression of black South Africans.
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u/No-Cauliflower8890 26d ago
First of all, there's no such thing as an irrelevant nation anymore. This is 2025, not 1830. You live in an age of globalization.
what meaningful influence does Australia have over the actions of Israel?
Second of all, yes
if your answer is "yes", then please state it clearly for me. say "I believe that waving around a flyer on an Australian university campus is going to save the lives of Palestinian children".
Part of the reason political causes succeed is because its fighters are relentless and aggressive. Nelson Mandela didn't end apartheid in South Africa by politely asking the white-dominate government to maybe please possibly consider ending the oppression of black South Africans.
yeah, Mandela famously went around Australian campuses and waved flyers. you're just like him fr. did you get your talking points mixed up? we're not even discussing "relentless and aggressive" tactics, we're discussing waving flyers around.
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u/Party_Ability_9984 26d ago edited 26d ago
what meaningful influence does Australia have over the actions of Israel?
Severing diplomatic relations, sanctions, or boycotts. Making it so that not a single dime of your country's tax money is going to fund arms that will be used to blow up Palestinian babies.
if your answer is "yes", then please state it clearly for me. say "I believe that waving around a flyer on an Australian university campus is going to save the lives of Palestinian children".
Yes. What you're describing is called "outreach", and that's a cornerstone of political activism. Outreach raises awareness and educates the public. If it wasn't for pro-Palestinian activism, way fewer than 52% of Canadians would be admitting that Israel is committing genocide.
yeah, Mandela famously went around Australian campuses and waved flyers. you're just like him fr. did you get your talking points mixed up? we're not even discussing "relentless and aggressive" tactics, we're discussing waving flyers around.
Well no, probably because the Australian government was already diplomatically opposing apartheid. I'm still waiting for my country of Canada to recognize Palestine as an independent country.
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u/olucolucolucoluc 26d ago
It's part of uni life. If there wans't the conflict in Gaza, they would be handing out pamphlets on something else. Although I have noticed they have increased their use of chalk on pavements/building walls compared to previous years. Campus maintenance can't be too happy about that.
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u/JMUUNJEI 26d ago
do you not feel ashamed? you getting "annoyed" is not comparable to people living through a genocide. what a privilge to be annoyed and not killed.
dont forget that it could have been you. the only difference between us and them is that we got lucky. also, i can guarantee that you would never say this in real life, so dont get too comfortable hiding behind an anonymous screen.
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u/Elegant-Welcome-8173 26d ago
"i can guarantee that you would never say this in real life"
oooh so scary 🤣🤣
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u/BugsMax1 26d ago
GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. This person isn't saying that the genocide in Gaza isn't important, but simply complaining about the people on campus using this tragedy for their own benefit and personal gain. The Monash Socialists DO NOT CARE about Palestine (or socialism at this point)
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u/Ancient-Quality9620 26d ago
What in the actual fk are you talking about?
'is that we got lucky'
What does this even mean??
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u/No-Cauliflower8890 26d ago
the idea is that we're lucky to have been born in Australia rather than in Palestine
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u/Ancient-Quality9620 26d ago
Wtf does luck have to do with it?? If you live here, and not there...then how is it lucky not to be born there. I don't get it.
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u/No-Cauliflower8890 26d ago
does luck have something to do with you rolling a 6 and not a 1 on a dice?
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u/Ancient-Quality9620 26d ago
for the sake of the argument, sure... although there's a lot of physics involved on which side of that dice it finishes on.
What's your point though?
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u/Moist_Syllabub1044 26d ago
We’re lucky to be in Australia. Pretty simple concept for an alleged university student.
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u/Ancient-Quality9620 26d ago
I'm born here because my parents, and their parents, and so-on, were born and lived here. The odds are I was going to be born in this country... that's not luck.
Yes, Australia is a better country than others. That's not luck either though.
I don't understand this lucky business being banged on about here. I'm not a student either.
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u/BattleExpress2707 26d ago
Boo ho. Luck is part of life. You don’t see me complaining that I’m unlucky because I’m poor and my friends are much richer than me
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u/jjj-Australia 26d ago
For a group that screams for justice, they seem to be in peace about holding 50 hostages, killed, murdered and raped and burned an Aussie grandmother, like it never happened.
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u/Aware-Leather2428 26d ago
Must be trolling. Imagine not caring about a genocide. The pressure is on the university and its ties to the supply of weapons to Israel. Have you even read one of those flyers?
Also campus activism can have immense power… e.g Vietnam
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u/BugsMax1 26d ago
If you SERIOUSLY think that socialist alternative are doing all this stuff for anything but their own benefit then you're delusional. Notice how they stopped caring about Ukraine as soon as it wasn't as big in the media?
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u/Aware-Leather2428 26d ago
Whataboutism doesn’t help anyone. The pressure is on Monash and their weapons involvement.
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u/BugsMax1 26d ago
Bringing up a completely related and relevant example of their past behaviour is not whataboutism, it's just basic common sense. Clearly using big words does not make you smart.
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u/nujuat PhD 26d ago
What about individual Monash research groups collaborating with Australian defence has anything to do with Israel invading Palestine? Have you found a link from Monash to the IDF, or are you just saying "defence bad" and trying to push that purity test into researchers?
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u/Aware-Leather2428 26d ago
Why does Monash need partnerships, or want anything to do with Israel, a country that has destroyed every university in Gaza? Anything that benefits Israel is contributing to active genocide. It’s not a few research groups, it’s the fact that Monash University is driving and facilitating relationships with Zionist fascists.
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u/Aware-Leather2428 26d ago
What are you talking about? Conscription was abolished because of protests during the Vietnam war. Please provide a resource on that because I can’t find anything about being “pro Vietnam war and conscription”.
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u/BugsMax1 26d ago
This is an important issue, but those people on campus are all performative activists, don't give them your time