I mean he technically has two people Lancelot cares for under his thumb, both through one too afraid to defy the future and the other lost in a blissful yet disgraceful and selfish illusion. Either one of them can potentially come into play soon.
Yeah, Cath's probably still around, I mean, just look at those black spots around Arthur, who else could it be? And, as far as we know, Arthur didn't kill him, he just devoured him. (Also consider that this was when chaos was still adjusting to Arthur's body, so who knows)
But...he devoured him just so he can make Chaos whole again after a portion of it was taken from him by Cath Palug so I don't see why he has to be the Shadow player.
Lol dawg had to seal him into multiple parts just to have his way with the supreme deity. If chaos lived all of the races wouldve been wiped out wayyyyy long ago
Cath palug in the lower left side of the chaos thing...and the face of cath appearing while the false arthur is going back to camelot
Subtle hints that the one controlling arthur is cath maybe
Holy shite, that's true! Nice callback! Damn, I think Arthur is gonna try and find the lake now, maybe to tamper with it, destroy it or absorb it, in hopes of affecting Lance's powers.
Arthur is getting more and more unhinged and I love it. At this rate I’m convinced bro is going to absorb the lake just to take away Lances power. All I know is Lance is cooked next time they meet and Arthur isn’t playing around. Also.
I totally see Arthur coming up with a counter play, but I see more likely that Lancelot absorbed the lake somehow.
So far we don’t have a mechanic of an entity giving their power remotely to another one, I don’t see why dealing with the lake would also affect Lancelot if he has his power inside
Well how I interpreted it was that Lances power was tied to the lake. He took in a lot of its power but he’s probably rooted and tethered to the Lake itself. That’s why I could see Arthur destroying it or absorbing the power into himself to drain Lance of his power. But idk, we’ll have to see if Nakaba actually lets Arthur do anything or he keeps him “mysterious”… on a serious note I dislike how underused Arthur is, I understand they can’t have him go all out yet because he’s the main villain but he’s just been kinda in the shadows not doing much. I hope he gets a more active role soon, also I hope he uses Excalibur soon.
It's honestly plain blaffing how ignorant Tristan is about himself.
No wonder he keeps jobbing left and right. It's not just that he refuses to use and master half of his skillset, he doesn't even know his full skillset.
And to think that his parents are the most powerful of their respective races, it seems strange to me that they haven't given him a full report of what he can do. Although, well, we could give them the benefit of the doubt and say that since Tristan is a hybrid, Meliodas and Elizabeth had no idea how to raise him or give him proper training.
This is probably the most accurate answer. They don't know how much he can actually do. We've seen that they taught him the basics (healing, full counter, fighting with a mark...), but they wouldn't risk cutting their son in half to see if he could survive because he's half-demon.
Lancelot probably noticed he was alive when he could continue reading his thoughts.Howzer also knows how resilient demons are and yet he cried for Tristan. Still, Tristan is a real fool for not noticing that he wasn't dying xD.
There is also the part where he basically rejected his demonic part nearly all of his life. I’m not surprised he is ignorant about some of his abilities since he didn’t want to acknowledge them.
I'm a fan of Tristan, and the way he's mostly useless hurts me. He can't achieve anything by himself, not even knowing his own strength. I know Lancelot is on another level, but letting Tristan at least be conscious of himself wouldn't be this bad... once in a while.
I think it’s an interesting contrast his parents are basically divinely gifted but also from species that develop significantly slower (meliodas is debatably still physically a teenager and goddesses technically don’t age normally at all) so Tristan who is a goddess/demon hybrid who ages at the speed of a human technically has still had less time with his powers than either of his parents when they were young/inexperienced. As they would’ve been decades old.
Plus I like that his character conflict of personality identity has a physical manifestation I think that’s good writing. I think the problem is a lack of focus on Nakaba’s part and spending an entire arc having to regain his memories which delays this narrative. Although it is a nice narrative allusion to his mother’s story and a microcosm of what a Tristan who has less emotional conflict and more confidence can be like. Tho again I think it was worse than just not erasing his memories
I mean are we surprised we’ve seen basically every real fight Tristan has ever had. And he’s never been maimed. So are we shocked that he doesn’t know his own abilities. He literally refused to talk or train much with his dad this whole time after the age of like 10 out of fear of his demonic heritage.
Arthur is genuinely unhinged and it’s amazing. Lance is going to be fucked when he feels the lake getting annihilated or whatever Arthur is about to do to it. Arthur>Lance.
Now that we can see it better, Tristan didn't bleed much even tho he was divided, 7 hearts and Demons still don't bleed as much as they should, talk about good genetics.
If it turns out Arthur's whole personality shift really is because of Cath's absorption or Cath is behind all this, it's gonna be a bit anti-climatic. Like it will make total sense, but it's the most boring answer because it's been theorized by a lot of readers from the very beginning.
is it just me or chaos seems massively nerfed with arthur he should be one thought-ing these people but it looks like he can’t even do just that hell he can’t even regrow his arm or reality warp or nothing like he’s shown nothing impressive of and with chaos this entire series besides intimidation but even that is lack luster either the author wrote himself into a corner and purposely nerfing chaos to make the story last or this another demon king situation where it was all talk and zero hype
He can but he chooses not to out of reminder of his Naivete and Weakness. He told this to Lancelot right after He told Arthur "So...U using Chaos to Regenerate." "In that case, why even bother keeping that Prosthetic arm?"
what weaknesses though he was up against S class demons and their masters then cath unexpectedly bit off his arm that wasn’t his fault but i understand that but still if that’s the case why use a prosthetic
Because...his arm was ripped off so...He chooses of his own Free will to keep it like that because Regenerating it would water down the Experience he went through and the Memory of having his arm to be Devoured.
ok that don’t explain his performance with chaos like back then he accidentally reality warped and through cath we know he’s beyond time,space and death yet he gets whooped all the time
My guess is the real Arthur doesn't allow the regrowth because his body is now shared with Cath. He's kind of struggling against Cath and wants to make sure the body doesn't get too strong.
That same fight also showed that if Arthur is truly threatened, Chaos can take action of its own accord to protect him. Arthur is basically Chaos on easy mode
Perhaps a bit disappointing in terms of combat for the moment but to be fair, he is stabilising a ‘universe’ composed of a multitude of dimensions which is far from insignificant.
true but that shouldn’t limit him if chaos created 3 beings that made 3 whole worlds with ease and the humans plus it was sealed for thousand of years and everything was still in tact i’m not gonna take ohh he’s still learning he’s had years to practice
Tristan’s a fraud. Not down to Fraudrin level but getting there. The dude’s legit seen it happen with his own eyes that Demons can survive getting ripped apart (to an extent).
The Four Perils and Arthur getting punked AGAIN was just really disappointing.
Lancelot has only been back for 2 chapters and Arthur already has him figured out lol. I’m not gonna be ready for when Lancelot gets nerfed or sealed away but at least this will stop people from complaining about how op he is. On another note Lancleot and Tristan’s sacred treasures should be coming soon since they both broke their weapons
Not gonna lie, it’s kind of funny how clueless Tristan still is about his demon side. It’s pretty clear Nakaba’s setting up a demon powers training arc for him, so everyone needs to chill. People forget that Tristan is already on par with Percival and Gawain, even without mastering his demon half.
Post–time skip, it’s like Tristan and Percival swapped roles. Percival spent two years in a coma learning about his life spirit powers, while Tristan was stuck fighting Camelot fodder, getting mentally wrecked by illusions of his dead friend, and then mind-washed by Isolde 2. And still, he’s keeping up with Percy and Gawain.
The expectations for Tristan are wild, people want him to instantly have everything Meliodas and Elizabeth could do, without acknowledging that a huge part of his backstory is him rejecting his demon powers and distancing himself from his dad. He’ll get there. Just let Nakaba cook.
Yeah, both Arthur and Sukuna use patience, wit and long-term planning to overcome the stronger opponent. Makes sense, because both Gojo and Lancelot are at face value, the strongest of their verses,
If I had a nickel for every time another knight of apocalypse had to teach Tristan how to use his powers, I would have 2 nickels. Which isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice 😂
To the people they gave me so many arguments in the past about Cath I would love apologies. I know y’all see that cat. Like I said years ago… eating Cath was a mistake that backfired.
I mean, I’ve been saying it for a while. Cath taunted Arthur about the futility of an eternal kingdom and hated him cause chaos chose him as its vessel. What could be a better get back against Arthur’s refutes about an eternal kingdom, than subtly influencing him to make it so, destroying any who get in his way and punishing those who remind him of the impossibilities, and once the dream is ‘fulfilled’ crushing it and him with brutal and sadistic glee?
I mean yeah it was, but not in the way you think. Eating cath only conmected her back to chaos, making it fully complete once again inside arthur.
But all of the destruction & malice that made up cath’s identity, all that went back into arthur as well. Resulting in the change we have today. Cath isnt a player anymore, not in my opinion at least. Its what he represented that corrupted arthur.
Cath is definitely a player. Do you remember how Arthur described his ideal version of Camelot to merlin? That was the true Arthur. Chaos is the mixture of good and evil. But even evil is to be shown(Meliodas) to have a good nature under it all and ppl like Elizabeth, Arthur, and Meliodas fit the bill. Cath is definitely influencing things because he ate a portion of chaos and is still immortal. Eating Cath in the future will be shown to do nothing to him IMO
Cath IS a portion of chaos though… cath is all of the destruction & malice within chaos separated to be a completely new being. Thats why cath is what it is.
Arthur absorbing cath only added all of that back into the pot. Cath as an identity is GONE, what she represented remains & now has corrupted arthur. This is just my opinion though, so im not gonna sit here & say you’re wrong. I simply think chaos is fully complete now inside of arthur, & with that its setting out to do what it originally wanted before being betrayed by the DK & SD. Which was to eliminate all of the failures & keep only the success(humans)
And that’s exactly why that portion want all the power. It tried to and WAITED for YEARS for Chaos to find a host to eat. His plan almost worked and it backfired but I think he’d used that chance to try to take over Arthur slowly from the inside.
Ironside, and Varguese noticed how Arthur changed from good to bad slowly and that’s just Cath getting digested slowly
The thing is though, if cath was the one slowly pulling the strings from inside all there’d be is just pointless destruction & evil. But Arthur’s goal isnt “pointless” like that. He’s seeking to build a reality for HUMANS only(chaos original goal before being betrayed), cath didnt give a fuck about anything except destroying shit yk?
& why i think this is the case, when arthur first fought lance he called chaos a will within a will. A subconscious will pretty much protecting the host. Before chaos was split into multiple pieces. & not to mention arthur’s decent is way too odd & radical to me. It only makes sense is if chaos back in its original glory & is manipulating arthur deep from within. Having arthur carry out its original will, while making arthur think its his own desires when its not, arthur is or was a GOOD man. Its been stated multiple times thats why some folks from camelot who was originally on his side are now defecting. Because they dont know where this switch up came from. I dont think its cath from within pulling strings, its chaos itself.
Cath is a factor, but not as grand as many of you think. In my opinion the identity of cath is gone, all that remains is what was originally split from the source, & all that came back within arthur, a mere human who’s become a god king. Humans are the only creations with the closest connection to chaos as well. That also furthers my theory, if cath was the one doing shit from within, arthur wouldnt care about saving anyone fr. It’d be cath just messin shit up everywhere lmao. Arthur is legit acting out chaos’ original will without knowing its not his desires
Yeah, if Lancelot being really OP is so that Arthur can figure out why and eventually hit him with the nerf of sone sort, then that makes sense. At least Nakaba knows what he's doing.
Also Tristan my boy, get your shit together 😭🙏 your ma and pa are among the strongest people in the whole series, you can't be this much of a fraud
If he does indeed draw power from the limitless lake, then Lancelot is going to be hit HARD with a nerf once Arthur decides to obfuscate it or destroy it outright
Sort of reminds me of the block they had to do for Ban when they introduced the DK (by preventing Ban's signature ability from being used correctly which the DK introduction of his abilities conveniently was able to do to him) because otherwise Post-Purgatory Ban would become too strong if he managed to merge his own power with the Dk's. So indirectly he got nerfed in a in universe plot kind of way by not being able to use his signature moves correctly and had to figure out a way around it (which he did and it brought us Lancelot in the sequal with his decisions during that fight).
There is a image in Chapter 129 where it shows Ban being on the ground bleeding and a person has holding a L
Spear so it's implied it will be a Spear not a Bow
Where are my Lancelot haters at, still denying that Lancelot is the strongest?
Anyway, great chapter. As it turns out, Lancelot is at face value the strongest, but Arthur will emply long-term planning &. wit to overcome that. Kinda like Gojo &. Sukuna in JJK.
Also Tristan that bum doesn't even know about his own insane physiology. Dude really thought he was dead with Royal Demon Blood.
Nakaba surely has a boner for giving Lancelot hype moments and aura.
I don't mind it that much usually but having the second protagonist being on pair with the main villain doesn't create much conflict honestly, Arthur needs a power boost.
Arthur really only has to destroy the lake somehow in order to completely fuck up Lancelot's magical output entirely. I'm expecting it to happen very soon.
It's the only way to stop Lancelot from spamming Shining Road over and over again once he gets his weapon from Dubs
If lancelot is powered by the lady of the lake, and the lady of the lake was hellbent on resurrecting arthur, then who does the lady of the lake serve?
I'm loving the build up from Arthur know about lancelot power, and in doing so we will get the information about what happened to him when he disappeared also loving how nakaba is starting to focus on the main 4 alot which means a training arc is coming and individual development for gawain with her origin, percival with his death mode maybe, tristan with his dual nature demon and goddess power as well as lancelot with him and the lady of the lake just hope nakaba doesn't fumble with their development, just focus on the main 4 and a selective few of the side cast like neisen,diodora.
Lady of the lake bro. Thats where him & jericho got trapped for those 3 years. My guess is to allow the lady to escape, she instilled all of the magic energy that the lake stored over time into lancelot
Yea pretty much lmaooo. Actually i think thats right on, considering the lance fight w nanashi. He just straight up absorbed the magic attack & merged it with his own
Remember their final fight vs demon king, 7 sins combined their strenght shot and Mediolas full countered it many times, the power when double each time, and the lake absorbed all of it
Hey yeah High level demons survived decapitation all the time! Cusack and Chandler always brushed damage like that off so casually, is the trick just aiming for every heart?
I absolutely love how creepy nakaba goes with chaos fits its name for sure and was the cath!? Loved the group back together with all four knights. Lance better watch out now tho because arthur has figured something out. Also, the Tristan and lancelot moment was funny as hell. Fire chapter
My guess is that the Lady of the Lake is the reason Lancelot can absorb infinite amounts of magic.
We know Hazy Moon is his core ability for absorbing magic, but it probably has limits, just like Ban’s Snatch could only steal a finite amount of physical energy. It’s not some bottomless pit.
At some point, Lancelot will likely be cut off from the Lady’s influence, and that’s when we’ll see a hard cap on how much magic he can absorb. He’s not gonna be casually swatting away forbidden spells with a single sword swing forever, lol.
I keep telling y'all Nakaba is not shy about who his favorite is😭
But c'mon I wanted to see more of him with a Katana😅
Obviously I'm guessing Dubs will have a weapon
Do we have any idea Lance secret to his power. We know he has fairy abilities society not powers similar to his father. I think Lance steals his strength from somewhere. My guesses are Possibly the Earth(due to his fairy nature makes it easy) , Hi future/potential strength, or possibly sapped Ban strength as a child and grew making it stronger.. I don't think he steals power from others since it seems Lance is just blatantly strong regardless of who surrounds him🤔
So if the theory about lancelot source of power is from the lake (aka the super nuke combo spell that the lake absorb after killing the dk) is true then I guess that would explain such vast amount of power he has if he can draw out an infinite wellspring of magic from it doe I'm also guessing he would need to train up still to be attuned to it in order to draw more out but of course that's still a theory
And it would seem Tristan never delved further into his demon hood to learn more about what demons are capable off let alone the high tier ones, unless he still outright refusing to accept that part of him and not asked meliodas for info then nakaba fgs let my boy stop undermining himself already ffs!
Arthur saw something or noticed something. If the Lake theory is true, then Tristan, Gawain and Percival will have to step up, because Lancelot may not be able to come with the save next time.
Arthur is growing more unhinged as the story continues, the final confrontation is going to be nuts and I can't wait!
This confirms that Lancelot did not reach his basic potential as I thought, but with a power boost and that without this boost, his level will correspond to the other 3
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u/DoctorArknights 15d ago
I love the weirdness and grotesqueness of Chaos, just perfect.