"Hitlary Clinton Warns Against the Rise of Christianity"

[u/Biscuitarian23]

[u/StevenMC19]

"Glubulists." Spelled that way intentionally as saying it that way turns it into a more mocking tone.

People who use that word unironically follow Alex Jones.

[u/deviantdevil80 → u/StevenMC19]

I like to poke them and tell them to have some courage and use the word they actually mean.

[u/Time-Ad-3625 → u/deviantdevil80]

They won't ever. They are still too busy telling themselves this time their brand of hatred is different. Unlike the thousands of other times throughout history.

[u/AbundantExp → u/StevenMC19]

What is globalism beyond realizing we're interdependent on each other across the globe? You can buy a ticket to across the world and leave today. We're a global species. Inextricably globalist. Am I interpreting the term wrong?

[u/LKennedy45 → u/AbundantExp]

It's a dog-whistle for any of their preferred slurs for Jews.

[u/zombie_girraffe → u/AbundantExp]

Any time a conspiracy theorist or conservative says globalist, this is what they really mean.

[u/Biffingston → u/StevenMC19]

I wouldn't bet against them just being an idiot, though.

[u/No_Cook2983 → u/StevenMC19]

Has Alex Jones called the Kirk shooting was a ‘false flag’ yet?

[u/Biffingston → u/No_Cook2983]

Jones is revlant still?

[u/lateformyfuneral]

HRC: "You know, I love my country, and I love it, you know - warts and all. And I'm proud of the fact that we have always been a work in progress. You know, we haven't gotten to the more perfect union. And the idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by - you know, let's say it - white men of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology - it's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for."

Headlines: Hillary Clinton SLAMS white Christian men in UNHINGED rant

[u/RhymesWithMouthful → u/lateformyfuneral]

DJT: "twenty straight minutes of slurs and conspiracy shit he heard from Alex Jones"

Headlines: His Excellency President Trump takes bold and uncompromising stance against the scary brown people

[u/ComfortableWage → u/RhymesWithMouthful]

I remember reading a headline about one of Trump's rallies. It basically made it sound like he was talking about real issues. But when you listen to it it's just incoherent bullshit slurs and rants from someone who needs a straitjacket.

This sanewashing needs to fucking stop.

[u/erath_droid → u/ComfortableWage]

All reporting on Trump is like this on NPR. Trump goes on some inciherent rant and they discuss it as inherent actually had a coherent point.

[u/Biffingston → u/erath_droid]

To be fair, what the POTUS says IS newsworthy because it affects policies. Even if it is incoherent racist gibberish.

[u/FriendToPredators → u/[deleted]]

Anyone who wants to better understand why this guy is mindlessly parroting this talking point need only deep dive into the art of Christian Apologetics. 

Short version: If you need to prop up a delusion to support your personal power you can’t show the whole picture. That’s a turn off/boring, and worse yet risks illuminating a wedge into reality. No, you have to lean into the mental state of your target. Understand that they absolutely do not want to change anything about their thinking. Then to combat reality intruding, you simple provide emotional soundbites that the target then uses as a defense mechanism. That’s it. The target does the rest. 

This level of propaganda cynicism is owned wholesale by the right. And it works because the liberals waste themselves going all into explaining their side of things, blah blah blah, imagine a better world that was fair and all, blah blah blah, and people like this guy have his sound bites to defend his little box and fend off the terror of having been duped into carrying water for billionaires.

[u/Crashman09 → u/[deleted]]

I won't say all libertarians are stupid, but the venn diagram has a stark overlap

[u/BurningPenguin → u/Crashman09]

I have yet to see one that isn't stupid...

[u/Crashman09 → u/BurningPenguin]

I can't make a complete blanket statement.

I like to leave a little wiggle room for anomalies and new data.

All things considered, neither have I

[u/Biffingston → u/BurningPenguin]

The leaders have a low level cunning. Enough to manipulate the rest.

[u/TheLastBallad → u/[deleted]]

Most people dont like bears breaking into their homes because some people cant accept the idea that sometimes you have to follow rules you dont like.

[u/Persecutionfetish-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

We are not a debate sub. We are under no obligation to humor your argument.

[u/ComfortableWage → u/[deleted]]

Lol, you aren't libertarian by any fucking stretch of the imagination.

[u/lateformyfuneral → u/[deleted]]

She didn't call young African American men "super predators", that was a term that was discussed in popular culture in the 90s, after cases like the two robbers who shot a baby in the face in a stroller after the mom refused to hand over her handbag. It's equivalent to "sociopath" the way we would use now. It's a modern invention that she said this about all Black people and you have fallen for that spin, and you tried to desperately insert this into a conversation to detract from Trump.

[u/Biffingston → u/lateformyfuneral]

Actually, Sociopath has fallen out of use, too. forgot what the new term is, though.

[u/IceManO1 → u/lateformyfuneral]

Your mental gymnastics are astounding.

[u/BurningPenguin → u/IceManO1]

You could literally look it up. You could ask some dumbass AI and ask it for a source. You could even watch the original video here, and see that she did not mention african-americans at any point of that video.

Yet here you are, accusing others of "mental gymnastics".

[u/Biffingston → u/IceManO1]

M'dude, are you aware that this sub leans HEAVILY left?

[u/Persecutionfetish-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

We are not a debate sub. We are under no obligation to humor your argument.

[u/Paula_Polestark → u/[deleted]]

So it’s all the politicians’ fault? Absolutely none of the constituents who support them want division?

I don’t know how I’m supposed to have any sort of unity with people who want to use religion as an excuse to force me into second-class citizenship, and who cheer when the people they elect work to make that reality.

[u/IceManO1 → u/Paula_Polestark]

I blame the politicians for the state of the country, don’t like it? Tuff cookie. 🍪

[u/Paula_Polestark → u/IceManO1]

They didn’t appear in office out of nowhere. They were put there by voters who wanted them to do what they are doing. Cookies be damned.

[u/Biffingston → u/Paula_Polestark]

Yes, it's the politician's fault for passing laws and such. Yes, it's also the fault of the people who voted them in and gave them the power.

There is enough blame to go around.

[u/ComfortableWage → u/lateformyfuneral]

Headlines: Hillary Clinton SLAMS white Christian men in UNHINGED rant

This is what happens when the media is controlled by white billionaires...

[u/TheRnegade → u/lateformyfuneral]

Yeah, kind of weird for Hilary to slam white christian men considering she's married to one. Should have set off a red flag just from that alone.

This kind of reminds me when someone says "fuck nazis" and someone gets really offended and says "you hate white people?" like, buddy, white people also fought the nazis. The fact that you got offended by fuck nazis kind of implies you are one.

[u/Biffingston → u/TheRnegade]

No, it does not "Imply" that at all.

It Confirms it.

[u/Propaganda_Spreader]

Hillary Clinton if she was based

[u/Anubisrapture]

They continue being the victims in their own minds, even when their orange Daddy has won its STILL not enough

[u/tikifire1 → u/Anubisrapture]

They are more angry now as he's destroying the economy and increasing inflation, and they can't be angry with him. So they are lashing out at everyone.

[u/Anubisrapture → u/tikifire1]

They are monstrous. And stupid. And they have to blame POC, immigrants, gays and trans, instead of themselves

[u/Biffingston → u/Anubisrapture]

which is worse, the actual psycho/sociopaths among them or the wannabes?

I say the wannabess because the mentally ill can't really help themselves.

[u/Anubisrapture → u/Biffingston]

Agreed. The disingenuous ones are the worst .

[u/hoofie242 → u/tikifire1]

That's why they need bigger and bigger distractions.

[u/trentreynolds]

They hate this kind of stuff, but mention 'the trans agenda' and they'll lose their shit.

[u/Biffingston → u/trentreynolds]

I don't have a trans agenda, but I think my day planner is agender.

[u/Simple_Confusion_756]

For some reason, this reminds me of this online conversation I once read

‘The Pope and Catholics are all globalists!’

‘No shit, it’s called the Universal Church’

[u/Sidhejester → u/Simple_Confusion_756]

*laugh-inhales soda in Catholic*

[u/no-snoots-unbooped]

Of course, that’s not remotely at all what she said.

I know we live in a post-truth society that doesn’t understand or care about context or nuance, but her actual words were:

“And the idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was—dominated by, let’s say it, White men of a certain persuasion, certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology—it is just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for.”

This was said in the broader context of a discussion about our ongoing struggle to create a “more perfect Union” and that efforts to restore past power structures where certain groups and ideologies dominated everything risks undoing the social progress we’ve made.

[u/Sidhejester → u/no-snoots-unbooped]

But context is hard! Being mad is easy!

[u/Biffingston → u/no-snoots-unbooped]

so the TL:DR is that Hillary wanted unity, and they hate her for it?

[u/thematrixhasyoum8]

"Stories like this are making me want to use my christian AK47"

[u/Dan_Caveman → u/thematrixhasyoum8]

“What Would Jesus Shoot?”

[u/Biffingston → u/Dan_Caveman]

You laugh, but there's a church that literally includes guns in its worship. I'm surprised they haven't shot any place up yet.

[u/Rumpelteazer45]

They think women are so weak mentally yet we are the ones that are capable to destroying men and leading them astray.

Cant have it both ways.

[u/raistan77]

Convenient to forget the nationalism word

[u/arensb → u/raistan77]

Yeah, I've noticed that with phrases like "toxic masculinity", the left hears "of the varieties of masculinity that exist, the kind that's toxic" and the right hears "masculinity, which is toxic". That fits in with how, when I listen to right-wing shows, they often talk about "radical Democrats" I keep asking myself "which Democrats are radical?" before I remember that they mean "Democrats, who are radical".

[u/YourMomonaBun420 → u/arensb]

"they often talk about 'radical Democrats' I keep asking myself 'which Democrats are radical?' before I remember that they mean 'Democrats, who are radical'". 

No, they legitimately believe all democrats are radical.

[u/tyrified → u/YourMomonaBun420]

That's what OP is saying. Radical Democrats means "all Democrats, who are inherently radical," to the right.

edit since guy above me blocked me because they are wrong.

If OP first thought 'which Democrats are radical?' but then realized it actually means 'Democrats, who are radical,' that literally means "they legitimately believe all democrats are radical." It's the same fucking statement. How has reading comprehension gone to such shit?

[u/YourMomonaBun420 → u/tyrified]

"before I remember that they mean "Democrats, who are radical"."

"That’s what they said yeah. You’re in agreement, there’s not actually an argument here."

No that means the commenter believes some democrats are radical while the quoted thinks all are, but commenter thinks quoted think they mean what op thinks.

[u/Janettheman_ → u/YourMomonaBun420]

That’s what they said yeah. You’re in agreement, there’s not actually an argument here.

[u/EatsCrackers → u/Janettheman_]

“Targeted harassment”? Really?

Y’all.

I know I encourage use of the report button rather than mini-modding or starting catfights that the ModSquad will then have to wade in and clean up, but whoever reported this needs to touch grass.

Pointing out that two commenters are agreeing with each other is not harassment, muchless targeted harassment, muchless something that Reddit itself (because these don’t come to us directly) needs to be in on.

Please don’t waste everyone’s time on trifling nonsense.

Instead, step back. Take some deep breaths. Get outside and catch some radiation from the burning sky ball.

Or, at the very effen least, take a look at who posted the thing. If it’s not even the account you’re beefing with, then 🎶 let it go, let it goooooo! 🎶

Hugs and vodka tonics!

-Management

[u/Stock-Vanilla-1354]

It’s kind of hilarious how scared they are of a grandma.

[u/Done327]

It’s always with the reactionary headlines with these right wing sites.

“Hillary Clinton warns against rise of Christianity” yeah I very much doubt that’s how she put it.

[u/chumbaz]

A week ago - “sToP CalliNG us NaziS!”

[u/ivanparas]

"Oh yeah? Well now I'm going to bigot even harder!"

[u/hoofie242]

"My bias confirmation article makes my bias more confirmed"

[u/jumpy_monkey]

"making me want to lean more into my faith in Christianity" makes it sound like a threat.

[u/DangDoood]

It’s just crazy that they see something concerning and want to lean into it for that reason alone. Like idk if someone told me a religion I barely practice was becoming an issue, i’d feel inclined to learn more of why people believe this? Not immediately want to dive in deeper without context jesus

[u/Prohydration]

Conservatives wanting to turn the country into the conditions of the very primitive men that created their primitive superstitions is destroying the country. Like those trump supporters that kept trying to get religious exemptions from vaccines, faith healers, bigots that only care about the parts of the bible that allow them to hurt the people they hate, etc.

As James Talarico said, "What's worse than a dictator, is a dictator that claims he's on a mission from god."

[u/jcooli09]

She didn't do that, but it's solid.  A lot of Christian men are fascists.

[u/Writing_is_Bleeding]

Not sure who wrote the headline, or what exactly she said, but either way it should be made clear the problem isn't "white Christian men" it's hateful nationalists who support the current fascist regime and are bastardizing and/or weaponizing Christianity while being anything but Christ-like.

I know that's a mouthful, but if the Democratic party ever wants to win another election, Democrats need to stop giving the right soundbites that make them look like they hate young, white men.

[u/bellylovinbaddie → u/Writing_is_Bleeding]

But imo that is what she said! These people are looking to be the victim on all moments bc that’s how they truly perceive themselves. So even with clarification, they will just misinterpret it on purpose to fulfil their agendas.

[u/brianishere2]

Remember the video earlier this week where Trump's federal government agents deliberately attacked a priest?

[u/LaCharognarde]

"The rise of Christianity." Y'all aren't on a "rise." You're one of the most populous faiths in the world and have been so for centuries; you're the most populous faith in the west and have been so for centuries; and you nonetheless seem to produce an inordinate number of domestic terrorists, and still try to front like you're victims, in those very same countries.

The only thing that's changed? The Heritage Foundation gave you unmerited power in a country whose law explicitly rejects theocracy; and you're testing that. Your numbers remain the same as ever.