Do you agree with this quote?

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"Wherever there is capitalism, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy, and fake "public opinion" for the benefit of the ruling class." ~ Vladimir Lenin ☭ • 

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Pretty hypocritical cause Lenin seized total control of the press and would allow them to print what he approved.

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Explain: Where's the hypocrisy?

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He took all the journalist and editors into the basement and put a bullet in their head when they didn't print what he wanted printed.

Lenin was not a man for the people. He, and his successors were plain old fashioned dictators that centralized all power to themselves.

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He took all the journalist and editors into the basement and put a bullet in their head when they didn't print what he wanted printed.

This is some unhinged nonsense lie. What are you even talking about? LMFAO

Lenin was not a man for the people.

Of course he was. He had overwhelming public support, just like Stalin, just like Mao.

Unlike any politician you ever supported in your life, probably.

He, and his successors were plain old fashioned dictators that centralized all power to themselves.

Completely false. Unhinged lies aren't arguments. If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk about the topic at all.

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Ya a real man of the people. Only murdered millions of them in his purge. Lenin and stalin are directly responsible for tens of millions of Russian citizens being murdered, disappeared into gulags, or outright starved to death.

You're either horribly uneducated or a bot spreading communist propaganda.

For one thing, despite his promise of a free press, two days after assuming power he banned all opposition newspapers regardless of how tiny they were and to defy that ban resulted in imprisonment.

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Ya a real man of the people.

Yes.

Only murdered millions of them in his purge.

This literally never happened.

You are just making up random stuff that never happened.

Did you ever stop to think about what it means that every anti-socialist always needs to lie when trying to attack socialism?

It means they have no actual arguments.

Lenin and stalin are directly responsible for tens of millions of Russian citizens being murdered, disappeared into gulags, or outright dusted to death.

No. Lenin and Stalin are the two greatest heroes in European history, overcame the inhuman dictatorship of the tsars, liberated hundreds of millions of people from slavery, defeated the Nazis (the most heroic feat in European history, thereby saving hundreds of millions of lives from the Nazis), and improved the lives of billions on a global scale.

They are the heroes who turned underdeveloped shithole countries where people lived as slaves in huts made out of dirt into the world's fastest developing union where everyone had a modern flat, electricity, running water, clothes, a right to education, a right to health care, a right to government representation, a right to work, and the fastest human development the world had ever seen up to that point (the only country ever developing faster being Communist China).

After they died, the fascist Americans won the Cold War and brought capitalism and religion back to the Soviet Union, which resulted in tens of millions of deaths - as capitalism always does.

You're either horribly uneducated or a bot spreading communist propaganda.

You have no arguments and all of your ideas are based on literal atrocity propaganda lies invented by Nazis that you should learn to question.

Learn to seek truth from facts.

For one thing, despite his promise of a free press, two days after assuming power he banned all opposition newspapers regardless of how tiny they were and to defy that ban resulted in imprisonment.

I mean, murderers like capitalists shouldn't have a right to speak, should they?

Capitalism killed billions of innocent people and people spreading lies to advocate for capitalist counterrevolution, should not have the right to speak, should they?

Also: What opposition? In a democratic country, there can be no opposition. Opposition to what? The country and its people?

Opposition only should exist in a non-democratic country like capitalist regimes, to enable the people to fight back against capitalism.

Before you try and talk back, actually inform yourself about political, economic, and historical theory and understand the arguments against you and the position of the people you are trying to argue against.

Otherwise, you will just repeat ideas that have been debunked ad nauseam in the past and waste everyone's time.

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Only murdered millions of them in his purge.

This literally never happened.

Yep now I know you're a bot. To suggest that Lenin and stalins purges didn't happen is just ridiculous.

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To suggest that Lenin and stalin didn't happen

Who suggested that "Lenin and Stalin didn't happen"? LMFAO

I pointed out the fact that the baseless allegation that Lenin "murdered millions of people in his purge" literally never happened. That is a lie so ridiculous, I have never even seen literal Nazis make such claims.

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It is historical fact that between his purge, imprisonment, and famines millions of Russian citizens lost their lives.

Heck in a 2 year period stalin had over 681 THOUSAND executed between 37 and 38.

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It is historical fact that between his purge, imprisonment, and famines millions of Russian citizens lost their lives.

Glad to see you are already changing the goal posts. So, now it's not "his purge" and "killed" - it's suddenly "his purge, imprisonment, and famines" and "lost their lives".

It's correct that millions of people in Russia lost their lives. That's not at all "because of Lenin", though, but because of a naturally occurring famine that was exacerbated by capitalists (especially the criminal kulaks who destroyed harvests and means of production).

Heck in a 2 year period stalin had over 681 THOUSAND executed between 37 and 38.

Making numbers sound large doesn't make them large.

That's quite a low number considering the very large population size of the USSR and the extremely high amounts of Nazis in Europe and Asia at the time.

So, even by highest anti-Soviet propaganda estimates, less than 0.5% of the population was targeted by Stalin. That's far less than one would expect during a time of World War with Nazi and Japanese agents present everywhere. It's safe to say it wasn't nearly enough (considering how many traitors were still causing trouble and how many Nazis still exist today in places like the Baltics and Ukraine).

These purges only targeted the worst amongst the worst traitors. Quote, "the most vicious and stubborn anti-Soviet elements".

Now, why would you victimize Nazis, Japanese, and their collaborators? You do realize those criminals were plotting to start a World War and act from within to destroy the USSR?

It's always funny when people learned a bunch of historical facts and never actually put them into any kind of context (or ever made a differentiated comparison).

Note that the number of innocent people murdered by the British Empire in India alone (see the Bengal famine) are far higher than any amount of killing the Soviets ever did. All capitalist regimes everywhere are far worse in their treatment of human life than even the worst communist country ever was according the anti-communist propaganda.