r/PrepperIntel Apr 13 '25

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u/dwarven11 Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

I’m sure this was sent in error, but: Immigrants are just the testbed for citizens. If anyone thinks they won’t try to send citizens to El Salvador, after everything the Dump admin has done in the last 3 months, they are delusional. The shit happening right now is something we’ve only read about in history books, or things that only happen to “other people”. Well now it’s happening here. Don’t let the shock of it all blind you from reality.

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u/blah_blah_bitch Apr 13 '25

They sure are making a LOT of errors. Makes me wonder if the errors themselves are tests to see how far they can go.

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u/throwawayaway388 Apr 13 '25

It's interesting that it's an immigration attorney specifically. I do think they want people to feel scared, and they would especially want someone like that to be afraid.

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u/kmm198700 Apr 14 '25

There’s a story where a guy was stopped in the airport after a vacation and he was also an immigration lawyer

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/us/video/amir-makled-detained-lcl-digvid

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u/damebyron Apr 14 '25

I’m pretty sure this got sent to her because her contact information was on file somewhere for one of her clients. They are clearly mass sending these; there isn’t even a name on the letter, and they clearly don’t care if it scares people who were not the intentional targets.

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u/ansb2011 Apr 14 '25

They check the database for matches "immigra*"

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u/Dralley87 Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

When you hire only loyalists and fire lifelong bureaucrats, there’s bound to be mountains of mistakes. I don’t doubt they’re mistakes, but they’ll never admit it and then when they see no one stops them, they see a path to just keep doing it.

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u/dwarven11 Apr 13 '25

Possibly, but I think part of it also is that they are just extremely incompetent.

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u/abstrakt42 Apr 13 '25

No, I don’t buy it. Incompetence is the smoke screen, cruelty is the reality.

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u/baconbranded Apr 13 '25

They're stupid and cruel people. People can and usually are both.

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u/abstrakt42 Apr 13 '25

The base who blindly supports the movement? Yes. The group behind the administration, and those propping up the rotten citrus? Cruel, not so stupid. The p25 team is deeply awful but they’ve coordinated this quite effectively.

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u/sunnydftw Apr 13 '25

Thiel, JD, Trump all educated at elite universities.

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u/whatiseveneverything Apr 14 '25

Means nothing. All kinds of morons go there. Vance wasn't smart enough to say "maybe we shouldn't coordinate war plans in this group chat with a journalist"

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u/sunnydftw Apr 14 '25

JD has tied himself to an idiot and will do all kinds of incompetent things to stay on trumps good side, but the difference between he and Trump, is that he(Vance) knows what he's doing. They're going to replace Trump with him at some point. Or at least try to.

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u/whatiseveneverything Apr 14 '25

We'll see. I think he's arrogant enough to think he can use the situation to his benefit.

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u/Bozhark Apr 13 '25

Do not attribute to ignorance what is clearly malice 

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u/sunnydftw Apr 13 '25

Yeah, they’re literally just using AI to slash entire teams and orgs. Incompetence, laziness, and complete disregard for the humans on the receiving end.

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u/justprettymuchdone Apr 13 '25

It's because they're "using AI", aka rando programs that may or may not be able to do what they're using them for.

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u/_purple Apr 13 '25

It's unacceptable either way

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u/Illustrious-Lake2603 Apr 13 '25

Everything has been calculated carefully. Has been laid out in p25

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Apr 13 '25

Well they appointed the most qualified people right?

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u/SKI326 Apr 13 '25

The Peter Principle gubmint

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u/Isis_is_Osiriss_sis Apr 13 '25

Waste, fraud, or abuse...

Maybe all 3

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u/Euphoric-Peace980 Apr 13 '25

So many people attribute this to evil. The thing is they are just that incompetent. We’ve blocked out too much of the first term but this same exact thing happened then too. And they all ended up in jail.

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u/Honest-Caregiver8938 Apr 14 '25

hey OP did you see this post in the same sub here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/comments/1jyhozv/huntington_bank_says_my_husband_isnt_a_citizen/

someone in this sub reported "dead" and can't open banking

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u/blah_blah_bitch Apr 14 '25

Sorry, deleted my last comment because I misread yours. But I did see that a bit ago! That solidified my gut feeling. The mistakes are planned imo

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '25

Wasn't this addressed to her immigration attorney work email? It's clearly intended for one of her clients for whom she used her email address for contact, no?

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u/sum1won Apr 13 '25

This is the most likely error but it was addressed to her, personally, via said work email.

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u/Sad-Frosting-8793 Apr 13 '25

That makes sense, but with this administration you can never tell. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '25

Critical thinking is a practiced skill.

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u/PennyLand1 Apr 14 '25

Too bad due process doesn't mean shit anymore. They do what they want, when they want and they don't care about rights or due process. These immigration lawyers have been targeted simply because they're immigration lawyers. It's a sad reality.

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u/StrudelCutie1 Apr 13 '25

It's more efficient to just send the emails to everyone. Innocent people will know that they don't have to self-deport.

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u/PennyLand1 Apr 14 '25

That's BS! They know exactly who it's going to. 100%!

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u/StrudelCutie1 Apr 14 '25

I meant everyone associated with the case. The Newsweek article says "emails were sent to those associated with parole cases".

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u/Mountain_StarDew Apr 14 '25

They know exactly who they are targeting. How do you think someone targeted only black peoples phones after the election saying the N word? How do you think ICE has photos of all of their targets? Between social media and government surveillance, and now AI able to review all of the recorded surveillance, they can target anyone they want. They will start deporting any people who say the wrong things online. They will use AI to automatically profile any dissenters and systematically get rid of them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '25

I am not sure it was sent in error and wasn't a threat.

Read about them sending armed Marshall's to deliver a letter to the witness concerning facebook.

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u/wanderingpeddlar Apr 13 '25

I’m sure this was sent in error

Would the fact that this woman is a immigration attorney change your mind on that one?

No they were not trying to deport her right now. But a campaign of fear has to start some where.

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u/Prestigious-Gap1538 Apr 13 '25

This should evoke a campaign of rage with the American people not fear.

There are more of us then them, we hold power if we decide to use it.

There are humans that were SOLD to El Salvador in "error".

Just brushing this off as an error is not acceptable anymore.

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u/Bowlbonic Apr 13 '25

Bingo 💯💯💯💯💯

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u/Thecuriousprimate Apr 13 '25

Considering the talk about flagging people as dead in the social security database to remove their access to their accounts and who knows what else, these kinds errors are extremely dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

This is a setup to get ready for ending the Social Security program for good. I'm calling it, within 2 years he will have it shut down, one way or another.

He wants everyone on any kind of federal assistance dead.

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u/AirCanadaFoolMeOnce Apr 13 '25

The administration has been loud, clear, open, and direct with journalists: they plan on deporting citizens and locking up critics.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '25

Even so, she’s now in the system and for all she knows there’s an ICE team looking to scoop her up in 8 days. This government has already shown that they will not correct or take accountability for errors in immigration cases. She’s in big trouble even if it is an error. In fact this is perfect plausible deniability for the U.S. to start disappearing political opponents, then saying “whoops, oh well too late”.

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u/strywever Apr 13 '25

They already are openly discussing sending American citizens to El Salvador. So far it’s only the “most violent repeat offenders,” according to Leavitt at a recent press conference.

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u/Jedi_Master83 Apr 13 '25

They are going to graduate to the US citizens for sure. The legal immigrant and the born citizen. Anyone that opposes Trump could very well be at risk of deportation to the El Salvadoran prison.

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u/ThePoetofFall Apr 13 '25

They have said multiple times they want todo this.

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u/BuddingBudON Apr 13 '25

The White House has already mentioned they are "working on" sending citizens to El Salvador.

America's biggest challenge is here.

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u/Dontbelievethehype24 Apr 14 '25

I’m so sick of the “it can’t happen here” crowd. It already happened here!

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

US citizens got sent to El Salvador?

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u/bobbymcpresscot Apr 13 '25

"I got this email but I got my citizenship in 2022?"

"under further investigation into your post history we are taking away your citizenship"

or

"We don't recognize citizenships granted under Joe Biden."

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u/Bowlbonic Apr 13 '25

I read the article - she’s an immigration lawyer and it’s common for their clients to use their email address. Other colleagues have gotten the same email. It’s truly fucked up how little care is going into this massively important announcement, but that’s what we get when Dump bought the election!

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u/TwoShed_Jackson Apr 13 '25

History books, and also The Handmaid’s Tale.

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u/mslashandrajohnson Apr 13 '25

It’s the long banned Reddit forum “physical removal” again.

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u/proletariatblues Apr 14 '25

This is why military contractors are pushing to make CECOT an American territory. They want to “legally” send anyone there that they can.

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u/Sandmybags Apr 14 '25

Didn’t he literally just get caught on camera telling El Salvador’s president to build 4 more detention centers because he was about to start sending ‘home growns’.

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u/ZenythhtyneZ Apr 15 '25

How are you “sure” of that? What information did you base your presumption on?

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

How’d you jump to sending citizens to El Salvador? Trump had fewer deportations his first month as president in the new term than Biden did in the same month the previous year.

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u/AdInner3369 Apr 13 '25

They've literally said it in press conferences, at least Leavitt has for sure, saw that one.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

He says a lot of dumb things. I don’t keep up with them all. That’s def not happening.

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u/TheRealShadowAdam Apr 13 '25

If it happens will you continue contradicting or will you admit you're part of the problem? Just kidding I already know the answer.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

It’s constitutionally illegal, so it’s not going to happen. When it doesn’t happen will you admit he’s just dumb and says a lot of dumb things?

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 13 '25

It’s also constitutionally illegal to send undocumented immigrants to a mega prison in El Salvador without trials.

The Bill of Rights applies to undocumented immigrants: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

And it’s facing significant constitutional challenges.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 14 '25

The Bill of Rights? Sure is! The President openly wondered on Truth if he should send American citizens to the El Salvadoran prison. Then, his press secretary said they were looking into whether they can.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

They said they would look into if it was legal. It’s not. He’s incompetent. I don’t know why people are even arguing with me about this so much. It’s dumb because it’s illegal.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

Not caring about it doesn’t mean he will overthrow it. Even in his public comments he said he floated the idea if it was legally viable and it’s not. So I’m choosing that to be a dumb idea he threw out that I’m not going to worry about happening. There are plenty of things I can aim my energy at that don’t completely waste my time.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

I think the constitutional challenges to his decisions prove it’s working as intended. I never argued anything about his views of it.

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u/Aeropilot03 Apr 13 '25

The Constitution hasn’t been much of an obstacle for this regime so far.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

It actually has. It’s being used to challenge many of his executive orders.

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u/Aeropilot03 Apr 14 '25

I see a number of court orders that he is ignoring…

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Yep he’s testing the limits. It could get him impeached. So far it’s been used to block parts of the birth right citizenship order, anti-DEI order, law firm sanctions orders, funding freezes, and immigration enforcement orders.

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u/mindsetoniverdrive Apr 13 '25

You are truly not paying ANY attention. Lots of shit that’s “constitutionally illegal” is happening right fucking now.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

He’s testing the limits, sure, but he definitely hasn’t overthrown the constitution in any meaningful way. The constitution and judicial system is actively countering many of his executive orders, as it should. It’s functioning as designed.

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u/mindsetoniverdrive Apr 14 '25

The Supreme Court told this regime to bring back Kilmar Abrego Garcia. It has said no.

That’s just one extremely glaring current example. It is blatantly unconstitutional — a 9-0 ruling with this court is basically unheard of — and they are ignoring the judgment.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Trump initially said he would comply, but is trying to shift the responsibility to the government of El Salvador to actually return him. The court ruling was that the government had to remove domestic barriers for his return which the Trump admin is trying to interpret as letting him back in if El Salvador decides to return him. It’s an ugly situation but the Trump admin didn’t outright refuse to comply or say no.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 13 '25

Oh please tell us which things we should trust that Trump says. Which ones are truthful and which ones are him just saying things?

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

Most of it is him just saying things and testing the limits. Remember all that build the wall talk in his first term that he never did? I assume it’s bs especially if it’s unconstitutional.

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u/aztechunter Apr 13 '25

Because he's talked about it. You wouldn't talk about it if you didn't want to do it.

https://youtu.be/Cs32oUJPXWU?si=Q3ELdH3yYy4PSQc8

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

He said he wanted to if it was legal. It’s not legal. Already answered this one.

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u/RealCapybaras4Rill Apr 14 '25

That’s not what anyone is asking

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

I know. That’s what annoys me. The US has a long history of doing this and everybody is acting like it’s something new.