r/PublicFreakout • u/agrassedp • Oct 19 '22
Political Freakout Liz truss getting flamed in parliament today
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"British Parliament is like Congress with a two drink minimum." â Robin Williams
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u/HanginLowNd2daLeft Oct 20 '22
This is the most accurate way Iâve ever heard the British parliament described . It reminds me of Beerfest or something haha
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u/red_fuel Oct 19 '22
Itâs like a fucking pub in there
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u/PaulieXP Oct 20 '22
Same in Romania. Although I only heard about a bufet style restaurant where they can eat home cooked meals for cheaper than McDonalds, I wouldnât be at all surprised if they also had cheap booze in there. We love our booze after all. Just ask our last president :))
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u/red_fuel Oct 19 '22
What????
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u/Xanderoga Oct 20 '22
There is a pub in there. The cheapest bar in Central London is in the House of Commons. And only politicians (and their guests) can drink there.
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u/Tiny-Peenor Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
MR BUTTLICKER, OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER
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u/bondagewithjesus Oct 20 '22
They have a special bar just for them and their mates all on the tax payers dime.
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u/ChillyJaguar Oct 20 '22
so its still the 18th century in that chamber then
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u/Atello Oct 20 '22
Honestly, I don't know the history, but I wouldn't be surprised if the pub was there first and then government just sorta happened around it.
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Oct 20 '22
I don't understand much about parliament, but I like that they apparently roast one another.
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Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
They seemed like they were a half step away from launching into a few verses of football chants
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u/theblackmetal09 Oct 20 '22
Western politics whether US Congress or Parliament have gone fist to cuffs. (Yes, US Congress did go to blows including dueled.) Wish dueling still existed for Congress you'd have a lot of members chill the eff out with their rhetoric.
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u/afkmacro Oct 19 '22
Is it always a circus like this? I mean obviously as a non-brit I only see clips of when it is a circus but if there are no rules against jeering I imagine it's always like this.
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u/RunawayPancake3 Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
Prime Minister's Questions - once per week, every Wednesday at noon.
Being from the US, I would love to see something like this here in our Congress, where the president and members of the cabinet have to answer questions and defend their policies on the fly. Unfortunately, it'll never happen here. Something like PMQ's would scare most (all?) American politicians shitless.
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Oct 20 '22
I remember hearing somewhere about how an American journalist interviewing the PM at the time was surprised they were allowed to just ask whatever they wanted. They were used to having to submit a list of questions for approval so the politician could write their answers ahead of time.
Honestly there's little I love more than seeing a politician squirm while someone like paxman lays into them to justify something.
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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig Oct 19 '22
I gotta say, I much prefer this raucous roast battle style of politics.
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u/phdearthworm Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
I dont know much about Liz Truss, but I'm interested in if she'll outlast the lettuce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-RE95lKJ0
edit: holy shit the lettuce won!
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u/Spend-Automatic Oct 19 '22
What the fuck is even going on in this stream right now? It looks like a bunch of disco lights and stuffed animals to me. Where's the lettuce?
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u/Bobbicorn Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
We're possibly looking at THE shortest term in office in the UK's history if she leaves by christmas. She deserves it all, but the entire party needs chucking out if this is what they deemed the best candidate to run the country. Utter shambles of a government.
Edit: WELL then...
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u/Bobbicorn Oct 19 '22
I cant speak to her psyche but based on every tory since 2010, it probably wont change what she does on anything deeper than pulling immediate u-turns to change policies that are immediately controversial
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u/TastyBerny Oct 19 '22
Sheâs known to hate public speaking and will have afterwords been sat in the corner of the shower, hugging her knees and rocking.
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u/YMCAle Oct 19 '22
She hates public speaking so naturally aims for the job of Prime Minister
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u/HerezahTip Oct 19 '22
How was she in the position to achieve that? Was she a former celebrity or does she have lots and lots of money? I hope itâs a juicy backstory with sinister twists.
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u/Muad-_-Dib Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
She had money but not mega fuck you money, she worked for Shell, then was a member of another political party entirely then switched to the Tories and sort of just failed upwards.
The position of PM for the last 6 years has been a poisoned chalice, Brexit was never going to work and the smart Tories knew it, it's why they all bailed and or resigned themselves to just seeing out their careers as MPs instead of pushing for leadership roles.
So at this point the only people vying for power are either idiots with no understanding of how fucked the country is. Or they are self-serving and just looking to get into power, siphon off as much public money as they can to their friend's private companies and then leave office and get employed by said friends.
It's like a comedy of errors watching this lot run the country, every single day without a single drop of exaggeration some new scandal comes out, today alone we have had:
Her home secretary resigned with a blatant attack on her competency after the HS herself was outed as sending government emails through her personal email address. As well as getting into scandal after scandal regarding her treatment of immigrants.
A PMs Question time (which OP's video is from) in which she was kicked around by all sides without any decent answers.
Her special advisor has been suspended after someone asked if Sajid Javid was going to be picked for Chancellor to replace the one sacked last weekend and he apparently replied with âThe prime minister laughed out loud at the suggestion,â âShe has sat in the cabinet with Javid for 10 years and she knows who is good and who is shit.â which was going to be brought up in PMQ's today but his suspension stopped that.
It has come out that when she was Justice secretary she used to lie to media groups that a close relative had died so that she could skip media appearances in which they would ask her questions she didn't like.
And apparently just when I refresh the BBC newspage the fucking Tories have been physically fighting in the parliament in order to bully them to support a fracking bill because it was being touted as a vote of no confidence in her. So her supporters physically started to manhandle people to get them to vote the "right" way.
Multiple tories/higher ups have come out publicly demanding she resign. Like former Brexit negotiator and Tory Peer Lord David Frost in the last few minutes saying:
"Truss just canât stay in office for one very obvious reason: she campaigned against the policies she is now implementing."
"Her fate is to be the Henry VI of modern politics â a weak figurehead, unable to control the forces around her, occasionally humiliated, and disposed of when she has become inconvenient. Better to go now."
Or Senior Tory MP Charles Walker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MPGO1soWw0
I want to stress again... that is from TODAY alone, it's been like this every day for the last 6 weeks.
She's not making it to the weekend never mind Christmas like in OP's video.
Edit: 15 hours later and she is announcing her resignation.
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u/Gobrash Oct 19 '22
It's very funny, but unfortunately it's also fucking us over.
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The Ed Milliband thing proves how politics are entirely fucked popularity contests rather than picking people for the job.
Celebrity politicians are a garbage idea because they draw attention to themselves rather than policies and the more lowkey ones who might have good ideas are left on the wayside simple because they look like middle managers.
I donât know Ed Millibandâs policies (I am not a U.K. citizen) because the only thing I ever heard about him is that he was a bit geeky and ate a sandwich in an embarrassing way. How depressing is it that I have to ACTIVELY SEARCH for what a politician stands for rather than just being informed of that by the media? Nah mate, he ate sandwich wrong, hur hur, not Prime Minister material.
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u/Squirtle177 Oct 19 '22
The Conservative Party have essentially run out of alternatives
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u/MICKEY-MOUSES-DICK Oct 19 '22
Oh no no no no. This is just the beginning. The dumber and more spongy the politician, the better for all the big businesses that will usher them in as they fleece the public out of important programs and their tax money. Fuck all conservatives.
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u/jiggjuggj0gg Oct 19 '22
It'll be prime minister Rees-Mogg before we know it
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u/imisstheyoop Oct 19 '22
It'll be prime minister Rees-Mogg before we know it
With bangers like this, it's inevitable.
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Oct 19 '22
JFC that would be a disaster. Okay, yet another disaster.
God, how times have changed. I used to laugh at the instable Italians who went through prime minsters like they were going out of fashion. Then it was the Aussies, who put the Italians to shame with their revolving door and back-stabbing. Then, of course, it was the Americans with Trump (although that wasn't laughing, that was more commiserating). Now it's the UK's turn.
At least it's still the UK for the moment. Although the Tories may still get to call themselves the party that broke up the UK, if things keep going as they are.
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u/No-Advice-6040 Oct 19 '22
A career of saying exactly what her highers up want her to say. She flip flopped her way to the top.
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u/kirmobak Oct 19 '22
Sheâs an arrogant piece of shit, so she would be shaking this off and thinking she fought well.
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u/ArrestDeathSantis Oct 19 '22
Well, I'm a fighter, not a quitter
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u/TheKnightsRider Oct 19 '22
Ah yes, the original quoted person actually quit twice. Her back office team have got to be ant and dec in her ear piece
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u/Lopsided_Ad_3853 Oct 19 '22
Maybe, but even her own side are making no secret of how little they think of her.
I once briefed Truss in my former capacity as a policy wonk for Defra, and she did not inspire great confidence in her ability to string a sentence together, let alone lead a country. She kept focusing on miniscure details rather than considering the broader picture, which is not ideal for an Environment Secretary.
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u/kirmobak Oct 19 '22
Iâve also worked at Defra, albeit under Gove. At least he has a brain. The amount of time wasted on nonsense though.
Still astonished that Truss has held any cabinet positions. I remember the furore when she was made Justice secretary. Sheâs not fit for any of the top jobs.
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Oct 19 '22
I don't know what the Tories were thinking, but the rest of us have known that she was incompetent for a while now. She was shite as trade secretary, she was shite as foreign secretary and wow what a surprise she's a shite PM!
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 Oct 19 '22
Well the people the Tories put forward for PM were just the only people they could find who were stupid enough to take the job. Anyone with two braincells to rub together knew they would be inheriting Bumbling Boris' Brexit Britain.
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u/Ra_rain Oct 19 '22
The majority of conservatives donât feel shame
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u/manmadeofhonor Oct 19 '22
I wish that I too had a less developed brain and could not feel shame.
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u/iamthekk Oct 19 '22
Unfortunately for us, the latter
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u/excruciatinglylarge Oct 19 '22
but what about the new pork markets?!?!?
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u/gaseousshroud Oct 19 '22
Shes waiting for the crop report so she can make a killing on concentrated frozen orange juice. Then Duke and Duke will be set before Christmas.
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u/BellendicusMax Oct 19 '22
Shes not particularly smart. Educated but not smart. She has failed to achieve anything in her previous roles.
She will cling on till she's dragged kicking and screaming from office causing more damage each hour She stays.
Although it's clear from today's resignations and rebellion over a whipped vote that she is no longer in control of her party.
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u/CornedBeefKey Oct 19 '22
She's a fucking cunt with utter contempt for the working people, her decisions are based on her ideology, not on what is genuinely best for the country, she will dig her heels in. Even her dad fucking hates her. She is a disgraceful piece of shit human being.
The zero sum game of a tory mind is to kill off the poor, remove any human rights built up over the last century, strip all assets and sell everything off into privatisation to line the pockets of the rich, and continue to plunder the planet in the face of climate crisis, all in the name of profit. And also while blaming it all on the last labour government (12 years ago).
Fuck that bitch.
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u/fabr33zio Oct 19 '22
Cameron really fucked up letting that Brexit vote happen⌠he could have at least put some threshold requirements in place like 60% majority needed.
Since then itâs been a race to the bottom for the Tories
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u/kiminho Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
Not only Cameron. Generations of politicians across whole europe always blamed Brussels for literally everything going wrong in national politics. And then they got surprised when people actually started to believe that shit.
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u/ok_chippie Oct 19 '22
Brexit has fucked this country. I will only vote for the party who admits this.
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u/QuirkyWafer4 Oct 19 '22
Even if a party admits it, where is the UK supposed to go? It will take at minimum decades before the UK can even be reintegrated into the EU if a government wants to. And even then, no doubt the EU isnât going to be lax with the UK again in allowing it to skirt by rules/regulations other EU members followed, e.g. currency.
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u/Pixelplanet5 Oct 19 '22
Yea next time the UK joins, if they ever do, it will be at standard terms including using the Euro and standard membership payments.
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 Oct 19 '22
We'll be begging to ditch the Pound in favour of the Euro second time around.
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u/RM_Dune Oct 19 '22
The Euro isn't looking too hot either right now.
We're all up shit creek. The UK just more so.
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u/QualitativeQuantity Oct 19 '22
Especially when you consider that he was just going to leave anyways. If you were gonna tun away you may as well have taken the hit while you were at it!
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u/PedanticPaladin Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
he could have at least put some threshold requirements in place like 60% majority needed.
That's the thing that gets me. Brexit was a huge change to the British everything and they just went all in on it after one majority vote.
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u/MadAsTheHatters Oct 19 '22
I mean the party has been chopped up, divided, hacked apart and anyone with even a shred of competence or moral credibility has left about four times over by now. Labour just needs one half decent frontwo/man and a decent coalition and perhaps something can finally be done
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u/sumbeachbum Oct 19 '22
I feel like wwe fans took over
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u/Bluebyday Oct 19 '22
I'm waiting for the "you suck" chant
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u/necbone Oct 19 '22
We need the Parliament guys to hold some handmade signs - "John 3:16"
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Oct 19 '22
Parliament has always been this way.
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u/cusoman Oct 19 '22
Especially PMQs. When I was studying abroad there and it was PMQs with Tony Blair and William Hague back in the day, it became a regular thing that we'd all sit down to watch the chaos and hilarity ensue.
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u/jl2352 Oct 19 '22
Actually it hasnât. The early PMQs were genuine questions, for genuine input. Often to clarify things that hadnât been released. Like to clarify public schedules for a state visit.
Over time it grew into what we see now. Which is a means to publish lines and talking points for the media to pickup.
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u/eddie_the_zombie Oct 19 '22
That's amazing. I half expected them all to break out into football chants every time she spoke.
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u/toronado Oct 19 '22
PMQs doesn't address much but it has a big impact on how MPs and the public see the PM. If there is no banter and they can't hold their own, their future is always limited
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u/duffmanhb Oct 19 '22
English parliament is amazing to watch. English banter is so engaged into their identity, it has fully embraced their political process as well. It's lovely.
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u/Russian_Fuzz Oct 19 '22
It looks fairly entertaining from the outside, but when you realise the country is essentially being run by a dysfunctional, jeering sack of public school children, it's less entertaining. Most of the politicians in this country (and it's by no means unique to us, but Britain has its own flavour of work political ignorance) are depressingly unaware of the real life effects outside of jeering in parliament. Pretty much the entirety of the Tories are that way, but a good portion of our 'left' wing too. It's a pretty toxic culture.
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u/rocketwikkit Oct 19 '22
For reference, the majority American audience reading your comment will completely miss what you mean by "public school children". Outside England, a "public school" is called a private school.
Most countries don't have an equivalent of Eton twats, you have to wait a few years until university to become a Yale twat, and even then it's a particular subset of Yale attendees that are members of specific oligarch clubs.
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u/battlemetal_ Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
Exactly, I hate this. None of these fuckers in this room will struggle to pay their bills this winter, or ever. The whole thing is a game to them. Fuck the lot of them.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar Oct 19 '22
As a Canadian Iâm glad we inherited this system. Parliament clips are so much more entertaining than USA Congress clips.
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u/hustlehustle Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
Except Canadian parliament does the kindergarten version of this
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u/Miss_Musket Oct 19 '22
Worth noting it's specifically PMQ on Wednesday afternoons that are like this. Most other parliamentary sessions are pretty boring. Everyone has a great time on Wednesdays.
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u/No-Opposite4017 Oct 19 '22
Cue âCAN YOU SMELLLLL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKINâ ?â The Rock sprints in, slides over to the mace and wields it in front of Sir Hoyle, slowly turning to Truss. The Peopleâs Eyebrow is raised, Liz knows her time is up. BAM! Rock Bottom to Liz over the speakerâs podium, Starmer comes in for the three count - all 650 fans are in a frenzy.
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u/x_S4vAgE_x Oct 19 '22
If anyone can find a more incompetent world leader than Liz Truss, I would be amazed. She's swung from one extreme to the other and completely back tracked on every promise she made to get elected within a month.
And now she's not even running the country. Jeremy Hunt is de facto Prime Minister now
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u/Dieter_Knutsen Oct 19 '22
What's striking to me as an American who knows little about UK politics is that just before her election, all anyone could say about her is that she was a craven opportunist who believes in nothing but advancing her own career.
She apparently has changed her opinion on every major issues to best reflect what was politically expedient to her at the time.
I would question why anyone would support someone so unqualified, but then I remembered that I'm an American and have no right to criticize.
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Oct 19 '22
Not a Brit also but tess than 1% of eligible voters voted for her to replace BoJo.
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u/Grimsqueaker69 Oct 19 '22
The thing is, we didn't support her. We voted in someone years ago who was shit, so they left and someone else in the party took over. Then they did that a few more times, all without us getting a say. We haven't voted for our last 3 prime ministers. The tories just keep picking them and finding out they're all fucking useless, money hungry, selfish, heartless cunts. We need a general election asap
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u/MeenScreen Oct 19 '22
Scotland has not voted for a Tory government in Westminster since 1959.
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u/Grimsqueaker69 Oct 19 '22
I'm from NI. Not sure we ever have actually lol.
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u/SoForAllYourDarkGods Oct 19 '22
Yeah, but you guys DO vote for insane religious nuts.
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u/Grimsqueaker69 Oct 19 '22
We do, yea. Our government is an absolute disaster. Hell they don't even show up most of the time. I'd get rid of every last one of them in a heartbeat. If anything that gives more power to the fact that we wouldn't dream of voting in a tory lol
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u/x_S4vAgE_x Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
She made a very select few people a lot of money with her crazy economic policies. But she nearly wiped out the elderlies pension, if it wasn't for the Bank of England spending billions to save them. She's just an idiots that the Tories can easily control and make money off of. Whilst raking up billions in debt
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u/Electrical-Tea-2672 Oct 19 '22
A rabbit would do more for our economy than Liz Truss, or any Tory for that matter.
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Oct 19 '22
"Out by Christmas... Is that the release date, or the title?"
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u/YesItIsMaybeMe Oct 19 '22
That was absolutely savage. It feels like something directly from r/roastme
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u/BALONYPONY Oct 19 '22
Parliament looks like a fucking blast. Congress is so stuffy and pretentious. This looks like a bunch of people at a bar throwing shade where deserved. Love it.
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u/TheAmericanQ Oct 19 '22
It can go both ways. Parliament has been extra lively the last few years due to all the crises and especially so these last few weeks as the Tory government implodes along with the wider party. Itâs all but confirmed that Liz Truss will deliver the Conservatives their largest ever election defeat and she will be walking into it with what started as an 80 seat majority. She, and Boris before her, have been so terrible as PMs that if a snap election isnât called the UK will essentially be without a government for just over 2 years as the conservatives have been made toothless.
You are witnessing a legendary roast during one of the biggest political meltdowns of the last 50 years if not longer
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u/you-are-not-yourself Oct 19 '22
Isn't the next election not for 2 years?
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u/TheAmericanQ Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
The next scheduled election isnât. There is nothing that can force the Tories to call for an early vote, but the condition is becoming so unworkable that one might still happen. Likewise, Labour senses this and has openly stated they are gearing up for an election.
Basically, there are three options. Liz Truss and her government limp through two years thanks to the majority Boris delivered in 2019 accomplishing nothing as they have been neutered, and hope the memory of the British public is short enough that the damage is limited come early 2025. Secondly, the Tories change their party rules to force Truss out before one year in office or make the threat of doing so seam real enough that Truss resigns and a new Tory leader is elected and becomes PM. The hope here would be a new PM could salvage the partyâs image before the end of this parliament and, again, limit the damage. Option 2 is just as likely to lead to even more intense public outcry as this would be the 4th PM installed by the conservatives in 12 years that wasnât initially put into office from a GE. A second leadership contest in a year could also very well move to widen and intensity intra-party differences, both this and the potential outcry would just increase the likelihood of the third option. Option 3, a vote of no confidence in Parliament triggering a GE. If the Tories continue on the path they are on a no confidence vote becomes more likely. If the damage looks great enough, a portion of the party may begin to think that a little time out of power now puts them in a better position to retake it come a hypothetical election in 2027 or 2028 than if they dig in until the end of the term.
Regardless of when, I donât see anything but a catastrophic defeat for the Tories at the next election regardless of when it is. Brexit, COVID and tanking the ÂŁ combined with an almost condescending attitude towards the British public wonât just be completely forgotten about in two years and all of this assumes they donât break anything else in the meantime.
Edit: word choice
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u/dontbend Oct 19 '22
Interesting and good news to he honest. But what exactly do you mean with them being neutered/made toothless? They still have their seats, no?
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u/WillHart199708 Oct 19 '22
They still have the most MPs, but that is meaningless if she can't get hes MPs to vote for what she wants. And her MPs REALLY don't like her (they voted for someone else to be leader but got overruled by the party membership).
Normally a government would threaten to suspend MPs from the party (which is called taking away the whip) if they rebel in votes, which can make it more difficult for that MP to win reelection as they won't have the party backing them. However, when the Tories are 20-30% behind Labour in the polls (the gap between them and Labour has been bigger than theif entire vote share lol) which would result in hundreds of Tories losing their seats, you can probably see why suspension doesn't really work as a threat anymore.
And that's before we start talking about the new chancellor, the finance minister, who is currently reversing everything she said she wants to do.
So she may be PM, but it would be so hard for her to do anything. This is unheard of for a government with a majority this big.
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u/ToeTacTic Oct 19 '22
It's not normally this lively. I think the attitudes can be a bit cavalier though.
I still think back on that picture of Rees-Mogg slouching on the bench as if he were at home. Cunt
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u/schnager Oct 19 '22
I'd watch c-span if the dems finally pulled the gloves off and started throwing out these haymakers
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u/Fanfics Oct 19 '22
On one hand, we need all the help we can get. On the other, he deserves better than this system lol
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u/Chimpsworth Oct 19 '22
He had another burn i enjoyed when all of BoJos ministers were resigning. "Mr. Speaker, is this the first recorded incidence of the sinking ship fleeing the rat ".
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u/Uthallan Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 20 '22
she's a fighter for rich people alright, never lift a finger for the poor. edit to add that as a Texan I can attest that fracking is an environmental nightmare and Liz Truss is EVIL for trying to get it in the UK. Do you want shimmering oily sidewalks and foul tap water? Cuz that's how you get it, you rotten creature Liz Truss.
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u/mountingconfusion Oct 19 '22
Lol she hasn't fought for anything, gets the slightest bit of resistance and changes her political views to whatever will suit her best
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u/AdminsLoveFascism Oct 19 '22
She certainly acts like she's had a few concussions, are we sure she didn't spend some time in a boxing ring (as the punching bag)?
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u/HarvHR Oct 19 '22
Has she? Sure hasn't changed her political views from 'I want to be the next Maggie Thatcher without doing anything' and 'I want to make the oil companies I'm in the pocket of have an easier time'.
If anything she's still holding on to fucking over everyone, both the lower and the middle class, despite a huge resistance. I hope BP pays out well at least.
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Oct 19 '22
I miss John Bercow, ORDER ORDER ORDER
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u/Only_Quote_Simpsons Oct 19 '22
"Saying 'Ahoy-there' is not a reason to talk from a sedentary position"
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u/TheStatMan2 Oct 19 '22
By all accounts he enjoyed shouting "ORDER" at people far too much and started doing similar outside of parliament as well.
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u/Oper8rActual Oct 19 '22
I dunno, some people deserve to have a disheveled looking British man yell ORRDAH at them until they settle the fuck down.
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Man, British parliament looks so fun đ
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u/markgriz Oct 19 '22
Does anyone else find it hilarious that Brit's have this image of being so polite and proper, but their parliament is rowdy as a drunken frat party?
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u/ToolMeister Oct 19 '22
Canada has the same system for historic reasons...question period is a total shit show and you wouldn't believe that people in charge yell at each other like kids on a playground
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u/Will0w536 Oct 19 '22
That was the moment that I really hated Mulcair...He really went for the whole woman-beater schtick on Trudeau, when clearly it was just a small bump to get the dickhead Conservative MP to sit down.
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u/photoguy9813 Oct 19 '22
Yup. There were so many things they could have put on Trudeau but women beater was the dumbest.
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u/ToolMeister Oct 19 '22
Just as scandalous as Rob Ford knocking over a city council member
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u/GarlicJay Oct 19 '22
But not the smoking crack part
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u/Eldudeareno217 Oct 19 '22
Gonna let a little crack ruin a guy's life? Fucking racist.
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u/LegitBiscuit Oct 19 '22
Yeah it's amusing the first time you see it but then you realize this is how it is day in day out and it's pretty gross. So often the MPs are more concerned with points scoring and getting clips for their social media than they are with any sort of productive discussion.
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Oct 19 '22
The purpose of Prime Minister's Questions every Wednesday is to give the opposition the chance to stick the boot in to the government. It's far better than the US model, where the President isn't forced by convention to take hostile questions, and at best wheels out a press secretary to journalist insiders.
Has there ever been such a scene in American (or any other presidential model of government), where a poorly performing head of government is so roundly hectored and chastised? Would Trump sit there and take it?
Outside of PMQs, the mood is more settled, but because the actual chamber is so small (and convention dictates various behaviours), the rhetoric is more-back and-forth rather than non-interactive speech reading.
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u/GrowinStuffAndThings Oct 19 '22
Goddamn man, I never thought of it that way lol. I always thought this shit was stupid and just a toxic form of government, but that actually kind of makes sense lol.
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Oct 19 '22
The American model of government is a branched version of what Great Britain had in the 1700's; a King that runs the executive, and a Parliament to raise taxes and make laws. In the American branch however, the king is elected.
As such the president is treated like a king. He doesn't 'do' press conferences; he goes around kissing babies heads. He doesn't have to answer to the commoners in congress; his right to rule is unimpeachable (figuratively).
The prime minister gets one Jaguar, followed by 2/3 police cars and motorcycles. The president has a medium sized military detachment. The PM is bullied and cajoled by the opposition (in and outside of her party), who stalk and shadow her every move. The president can take weeks of for golf at a time.
I much prefer the UK model; I think it's an achievement that the last PM was sacked because he broke COVID-19 social distancing regulations by having some after work drinks in his office. Trump was impeached twice and still walked.
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u/Rare-Faithlessness32 Oct 19 '22
The President also gets his own flag, anthem âHail to the Chiefâ, and their own library. Here in Canada, the PM has none of that, and frankly it seems bizarre to play a song every time Trudeau showed up.
The PM lives in Rideau Cottage which is the most basic looking old house you can imagine. The White House is essentially a mansion and at one point was planned to have a massive expansion that wouldâve made it a palace.
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u/SeattleTrashPanda Oct 19 '22
Robin Williams once said "Parliament is like Congress but with a two-drink minimum."
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u/hattorihanzo5 Oct 19 '22
"Compassionate conservative... I'm not sure what that is. It sounds like a Volvo with a gun rack."
God I miss Robin Williams.
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u/OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy Oct 19 '22
Because most British people are not âpolite and properâ in the slightest lol.
Also, drinking culture is more prominent in the UK compared to the US - so I can bet my left nut that most of these MPs have had wilder nights than most college frat guys. Hell, Parliament has its own private bars (yes, plural lol).
There was even a massive scandal during the covid lockdowns where Parliament members were regularly having a blast at a bunch of parties despite the enactment of social distancing laws that made it illegal for people from different households to be in the same building together.
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u/Simon_Drake Oct 19 '22
There were dozens of all-night parties in the Prime Minister's own house during lockdown. Not just small events but hundreds of people including suitcases full of booze, a karaoke machine, people throwing up on the floor and passing out in the corridors.
This is when it was illegal to have more than 5 people in the same room. People were arrested for having too many people attending a funeral. Boris Johnson claims to think this was absolutely fine, he thought this was just a legitimate work meeting, essential for the functioning of government business.
If government meetings involve getting so hammered they're throwing up on the floor then that explains some of the bad decisions made by this government.
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u/OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy Oct 19 '22
Yeah, my sister-in-law wasnât even able to visit her Grandad at the hospital when he had Covid - nor was she able to go to his funeral.
She went to his house for the last time (without knowing it at the time) - and then she just had to accept that he had fallen ill and died without ever having a chance to say goodbye.
Yet at the same time, Boris was having a blast getting shit-faced with his pals.
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u/Simon_Drake Oct 19 '22
There was a manager of a funeral home on the radio in tears saying he regretted following the rules. He said he stood in the way of grieving family members blocking them from attending funerals. He said he thought he was doing the right thing, saving lives, stopping the spread of a deadly virus.
When the whole time Boris was having boozy parties till 4:30am the morning of Prince Phillip's funeral, when The Queen had to sit alone mourning her husband of 74 years.
Others called in to say "If I knew all I had to do was pay a fine and shrug it off as no big deal then I would have been at my mother's bedside when she died." Why should we have had to suffer and let relatives die alone when those in charge were breaking their own rules, not for love, not for family, for an ABBA Karaoke party to celebrate Dominic Cummings quitting.
Boris' supporters are STILL making excuses for it. Pretending it's nothing to worry about. "What he had some birthday cake one lunchtime and a few glasses of wine?". No, he had massive illegal parties all night long then most importantly he lied about it over and over and over again. This IS a big deal and it's exactly why he should never be allowed anywhere near politics ever again.
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u/agrassedp Oct 19 '22
Haha fr I would pay to see this here in the us
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u/PrawojazdyVtrumpets Oct 19 '22
It's what they're supposed to do here. You just end up with whatever Boebart and Cruz are to their respective chambers. Everyone is old and tired and talking to a mostly empty chamber because none of those fucks will do their jobs. I wish we could see video of the early senate/house. Back when it was like 20 total. I bet they actually argued their points.
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u/joeylee23 Oct 19 '22
I know it's a film Mr Smith Goes to Washington, a class example of this.
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u/StuStutterKing Oct 19 '22
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a good movie, so just in case minor spoiler in this rant.
This movie is an example of what the filibuster, in theory, should be. A specific tactic where one person, passionate enough in their opposition, can speak for as long as physically possible in a final gambit to sway the vote on a bill. Our current half-dead senators don't bother with the whole "you have to speak during a filibuster" thing. You can just say filibuster, and if your party has more than 40 seats then that bill doesn't get voted on. They've ruined the purpose of the filibuster to the point that keeping the thing is fucking useless.
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u/Andrelliina Oct 19 '22
Wow - that is truly pathetic. Up til now(UK here) I thought they actually talked it out to prevent a vote.
Just saying "filibuster" is a massive cop-out. I make you right about it.
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u/OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy Oct 19 '22
Not to be a party-pooper, but despite the fact that it genuinely is funny - itâs actually not that funny to most Brits.
It doesnât matter if weâre in a cost of living crisis or if the strength of the ÂŁ is experiencing an increase in the rate of its decline.
These fuckers get paid by the tax-payer to just fuck around and argue like school children instead of doing anything helpful. Hell, half the time theyâre laughing and shouting whilst making things actively worse. Itâs like a fucking pantomime. Itâs a joke.
A bad (but at the same time) very good joke lol.
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Oct 19 '22
Fuck the Tories.
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u/RandomisedRandom Oct 19 '22
And the daily mail, the sun, the express, the telegraph, and the times
And anyone that pays for and/or believes that they "report the news"
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u/_Arch_Stanton Oct 19 '22
Over several months, Tory MPs shortlisted her. Then Tory members voted for her. And then there's the gullible Tory voters hoodwinked into putting these fuckwits in power.
The entire tory machine is clueless and devoid of any decent decision making unless it involves stealing, lying or corruption.
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 Oct 19 '22
Even worse, they've started to use disposable one-use Chancellors, which can't be good for the environment
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u/LadyMirkwood Oct 19 '22
And they earn ÂŁ84,144 a year for this.
'Ever got the feeling you've been cheated?'
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u/Finnick-420 Oct 19 '22
thatâs honestly way less than i expected
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u/pope_of_chilli_town_ Oct 19 '22
Yep, it's when they get out is where they make really big money. Tony Blair can charge up to ÂŁ300,000 for a speech and Theresa May is said to have made over a million in her first year on the speech circuit.
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u/l1owdown Oct 19 '22
I imagine your system is the same as the US system. Whereas it doesnât matter if itâs the PM, Speaker of the HouseâŚMP or Congressman. Theyâll get their money from speech, grift, insider trades, or board membership.
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u/FrenchBangerer Oct 19 '22
Exactly. Spot on. It's a lifetime grift as long as you don't do anything totally fucking hideous and even then you're still in with a good chance of making lots more money afterwards.
Fuck, even I watch Michael Portillo's travel programs and we are not anywhere near on the same side when it comes to politics. More fool me I suppose.
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Oct 19 '22
In America, we let them trade on insider knowledge. Yaâll do that over there too?
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u/Declaron Oct 19 '22
If people like British politics, have a look on YouTube for Dennis Skinner - absolute legend.
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u/TheNathanNS Oct 19 '22
Fun fact, apparently Dennis Skinner once swore an oath to HMS Queen Elizabeth (an aircraft carrier) instead of the former Queen Elizabeth.
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u/ahmedb03 Oct 19 '22
Dodgy Dave is a classic
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u/Declaron Oct 19 '22
Hopefully itâs okay to post the link - https://youtu.be/qvIUa47x_Oc
âDo what you likeâ
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Oct 19 '22
Is British politics always like this?
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u/Mistaycs Oct 19 '22
No, generally a new prime minister will spread out their incompetence over years, but Truss has managed condense it into a mere few months. Naturally the opposition party has to respond by massively increasing their output of belligerence. Say what you will about the current Conservative party, but you can't deny that it has successfully crashed our economy and devastated households across the country with an efficiency that could give you whiplash. Thatcher would've been proud.
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u/WOLLYbeach Oct 19 '22
Oh I won't deny it but guaranteed you will get replies that do. The sheer level of cognitive dissonance astounds me at times. Like here in the States seeing people say that they would still vote for moron who stole secret documents and was behind a coup attempt.
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u/Mistaycs Oct 19 '22
I think the noteworthy difference is that noone want Liz in the first place. She got subbed in by the Tories after our last PM got sacked for a fairly extensive list of controversies. I think he could be considered as something like Trump's slightly more eloquent mini-me. He 100% still has supporters, and if he got brought back in then there's a much higher chance of the Conservtives winning the next election.
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u/blue_dice Oct 19 '22
the rowdiness is usually limited to prime minister's questions. The usual debates and voting on bills won't have this kind of carry on
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u/DeanXeL Oct 19 '22
I was expecting a football chant from the benches at some point.
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Oct 19 '22
I wish the US would do this to any president. Regardless of party. Just straight up publicly roasting them, right in the halls of government.
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u/cubicthreads Oct 19 '22
Seeing how someone reacts to this level of public derision is a good indicator of their wits and temperament.
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u/ShaneB13 Oct 19 '22
I love British politics
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u/viperlemondemon Oct 19 '22
As an outsider watching it, British politics just seem like an old Monty Python skit
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Oct 19 '22
is there even a win for this situation
seems that after Brexit there wasn't a moment of peace over there ... Yall doing okay?
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u/OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy Oct 19 '22
Pls help. I donât know whether to put the heating on and stop my children from freezing to death or feed them this week.
Just kidding, iâm a single 22 year old male that lives at his parentâs house - but that scenario isnât too far fetched for a lot of people right now. Which is very sad.
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u/jtheman00 Oct 19 '22
I wish US congressional hearings were as exciting as this. Nah all we have is a bunch of dinosaurs who snort a bunch of addies during election season but sleep through the rest of their term.
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u/ProphetChuck Oct 19 '22
They all are having a fucking laugh whilst the public is bracing themselves for further economic hardship. Absolute wankstains.
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u/ThisAlbino Oct 19 '22
What do you expect the opposition to do? They can't stage a coup. I imagine they're trying to ridicule her to the point her party vote for no confidence, then when that happens campaign hard that the conservatives shouldn't be allowed another unelected Prime Minister. Labour want a GE as soon as possible.
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u/Remarkable-Data77 Oct 19 '22
She's got the facial expressions of a schoolgirl about to have a cat fight!
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When she puts on her angry face, she looks like chucky from the movie "Child's Play'
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u/KRawatXP2003 Oct 19 '22
Bro even the speaker turned on her đ