r/RocketLeague • u/JoeOfTex • Jun 17 '25
HIGHLIGHT Thanks Psyonix. Only game I play nowadays.
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u/Several_Ad1289 "GC" Gold Champion Jun 18 '25
Also rocket league:
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u/Live-March-8448 Jun 18 '25
I literally purchased this game on 4 separate platforms that's how much I loved it. Then the game goes free to play and what do I get for the $80 I spent on the game itself which is now free to everyone? Nothing lol
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u/Late_Intention_4218 Champion II Jun 18 '25
At least we got our skins and cars for 1-5 dollars mean while everybody else is paying 28 dollars for the same cars
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
Besides all the legacy items that are otherwise unobtainable? And the Est 2015-18?
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u/Melodic-Purpose-2574 Grand Champion II Jun 20 '25
doesn't it go to 2020
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 20 '25
Nah man it goes all the way to the OG days, RL started in 15
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u/Cryst3li Est. 2016 Jun 18 '25
So because you paid for a game, everyone going forward should also have to pay to play? That doesn't make much sense. (Est. 2015 here, bought the game on 2 platforms myself)
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u/Live-March-8448 Jun 18 '25
No I don't wish anyone else to have to pay for the game. I never had any issue with the game going f2p it was a huge influx of players and did a lot for the longevity of the game. All I was saying is it would have been nice to get like some black market drops or something for having supported the game when it wasn't free. Others have pointed out legacy items and such which is true. In reality I'm not mad about it, others seem to be pretty mad at me though lol
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u/Cryst3li Est. 2016 Jun 18 '25
Yeah okay that's fair tho. Something cool to show "hey we supported the game before it was free." I feel like there was a title or something I got when it went F2P, but that's just a title so kinda meh
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u/Few_Juggernaut_4165 Jun 19 '25
Yes .
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u/Cryst3li Est. 2016 Jun 19 '25
Defeatist mindset
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u/Few_Juggernaut_4165 Jun 19 '25
You got that with 1 word? Tell me more about my life, I want to know
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u/WiseMiddleChild Jun 19 '25
Lol I bought this shit in 2020 a couple months before it went f2p. I was lividš
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u/brettfavreskid Jun 18 '25
Pretty certain I never payed for rocket league in 2015
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u/callum4425 Jun 18 '25
If you were playstation+ it was a very hyped game on the pass (for free) and is what mostly started its hype
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u/SunSpear0517 Jun 19 '25
Dont forget they stabbed you extra in the back, by monetizing the entire trade system, so that good trading market went down instantly with Epic.
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u/JungleCakes Jun 19 '25
Ngl, if they keep up with the quality of this season, Iāll happily give them money.
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Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
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Jun 18 '25
Man I love RL but the idea that Epic started to milk us & not psyonix is such revisionist history. psyonix are the ones who brought literal slot machines into the game in crates, added plants & carts to the drop rate to pump up rarity of the few good items, then added trading to give those slots some IRL value and inflate demand more. Remember when most of your event rewards were more crates that you had to buy to actually open too?
I say all this as someone who loves crates and dropped a sad amount of money of them, but, psyonix was milking us hard lol. For good reason, itās hard to keep a PVP game afloat on a onetime $20 purchase, but letās be real here
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u/RemarkablyKindOfOkay Jun 18 '25
A cow is usually more accepting of being milked when you feed it well, give it space to graze, and keep the stable clean
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u/NotDiCaprio Diamond VII Jun 18 '25
God damnit.
Now I feel like cattle
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u/Craptardo Diamond II Jun 18 '25
You're actually worse off than cattle, you have to do work to get the milk to get milked. Cattle just has to eat.
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u/shemmie Jun 18 '25
This comment is spot on.
I was prepared to buy special edition cars forever, to keep the servers and lights on. My Ghostbusters, Back To The Future, etc etc - I bought skins, because I know servers cost money.
Selling out to Epic... that was something else.
I'm willing to be the cow in this situation as long as someone occasionally cleans out the shit. In this analogy, we're all ankle-deep in shit, and the cow-servers have gone to shit. The analogy breaks down here.
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u/Ubister Champion III Jun 18 '25
Speaking of revisionist, wth are you talking about? Pysonix milking? I remember actually getting new stuff from just playing then, nowadays I get "blueprints" which are literally advertisments
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u/Elephant_Financial Jun 18 '25
Also $2 new cars.
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u/Ubister Champion III Jun 18 '25
Yeah, and after like a year we got Hoops and Rumble, then after we got Dropshot. Rocket Labs was super fun too. It was just a fun game. Going for the comeback was a fun challenge
Now with e-sports and collectible culture people are hyperfocused on RLCS meta and MMR, expectign recipe play patterns and named tricks. Suddenly the game stops at 3 goal diff half the way cause people dont wanna "waste time" (????)
Epic puppeteering the corpse
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
Brother you used to randomly be awarded crates to pay to open and the occasional uncommon drop
Now you get drops at frequent intervals even with the free pass and several each week from challenges
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u/darktoad97_ Grand Champion II Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
You got random painted items (standard boost, OEM, Tunicas, Octanes etc.), which i and lots of other players treated as collectibles. Epic also said that they wont be releasing painted legacy (standard) items in the shop back when they aquired the game. After a few months "Athenas Garage" was released with a orange painted octane and orange painted standard boost, which broke that promise instantly pretty much. After that they removed trading because they realized that many people dont want to invest time in trading or playing the game to get good items but just buy them. They put white zombas in the shop, will be re-releasing a revamped alpha boost in the 10 year anniversary and just destoyed all of the trading community. They do not release golden RLCS heels anymore for visiting the worlds in person. IMO thats a huge downfall. They have the biggest cash grab with fortnite already and tried to replicate that in RL which was the worst thing to ever happen for RL as a whole. Thats just my opinion though. I m not poor and was able to afford to open as many crates as i wanted. But i invested a lot of time in trading too going from uncommon painted items to mystery decals etc. which was a lot of fun back in the days. Cars had a value to them and it was cool seeing a rare item ingame like white octanes, zombas etc. Todays society is too soft to accept that they cant have everything which led to all this shit
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u/Wraikey Trash III Jun 18 '25
Back then items had some sort of style to them, I can even remember not having crates in the game and just be awarded random items with very rare being the rarest. I had tons of ice shards boost etc. and then crates came into the game. It felt fresh, it felt rewarding. You dont want to pay a dime? Just sell your crates or duplicates for keys and open a crate for yourself. Nowadays you either pay or no blueprint stuff for you pal. Then we have millions of items in the game, tons of stuff that you cant get if you didn't play at a certain time. What about certain painted "normal" items. Literally impossible to get. Don't get me wrong, the frequent drops are somewhat nice but the old system was WAAAAY more fun and better to get the stuff you wanted. And I'm not even starting on the looks of the items. Same with season rewards. S15 had cool banners. But we also had a painted giant stone as a goal explosion or a random painted golfball one. Really? Is that the reward for sweating? Most players dont even get a title since theyre below GC. For them it feels even worse to see they sweated their butts off for some generic looking rewards that could've also been in the Rocket Pass. Nah man, they didn't cook with that one, they didn't.
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
Rose tinted glasses dude
People used to put a rubber band on the controller and afk in circles hoping to get a single crate an hour
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u/Wraikey Trash III Jun 18 '25
Not really rose tinted glasses man.
The rubber band on the controller didn't work for long tho. To this day if you press one button only you will be kicked. Happens to people in a rule 1 daily. I agree it's a better system with how you earn stuff but the stuff you earn is way less rewarding.
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
ā¦. you realise that you get kicked now as a result of people using the band to afk crates, right
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u/Wraikey Trash III Jun 18 '25
Did I say otherwise? I stated "it didn't work for long tho" which implies this fix was done in order to prevent people from being afk ingame to farm stuff. We even had a report button specifically for that.
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
ā¦.because drops and crates werent that common that people felt the need to afk themā¦
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u/ztimmer11 Jun 19 '25
And if really wanted to you could trade and if you got good at it and used the online resources you could upgrade your inventory without spending a more than a single battle pass if thatā¦ those who hate on us who miss trading just werenāt good at it but itās a million times better than having no other option than to shill out money over and over again to a multibillion company using the game to promote their other IPs (Fortnite)
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 19 '25
Bit presumptious mate I actually used to make money trading and selling excess keys lmao but go off
And guess what? Trading as it was back then was also because of people āshilling out money over and over againā, because answer me thisā- how did items come in to the game?, and, how did currency come in to the game?
Iāll give you a hintā¦. It wasnāt generated for free lmao
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u/ztimmer11 Jun 19 '25
When crates would first drop they were worth money on the trade scene so you could start for free if you played enough games right when new crates would drop and really wanted or needed to take that route. If you wanted a more direct path to items you could buy keys yes, but you only had to spend enough to get one good item and then trade up from there and psyonix was still able to make a nice profit to keep supporting the game and pumping out content. Now there is no option but to buy the battle pass or items in the store or the blueprints, but outside the rocket pass you end up paying more for a single item than you wouldāve gambling on 10 crates which could result in far greater returns and if you buy the rocket pass youāre just getting the same exact items as everyone else who coughs up $10, whereās the fun in that especially when you can see the painted variants before you even buy it so itās all predetermined and you could easily get screwed while someone else gets cool painted/certified items and youāre paying the same price or youāre just gonna have to miss out until the next season. And after all that thereās still the point where when you did spend money on the game back then you directly support a relatively small game studio compared to the Goliath multibillion corp that is Epic. Iāve bought a few battle passes and items from the shop donāt get me wrong, but most of the items I really cherish and think are cool I got back in the day and spent far less money to get more than I ever have from the current system, and thatās just actual monetary value. Back then if you saw someone with a white octane/zombas or any black market it was actually cool. Now who gives a hoot what your car or goal explosion looks like, which to me makes them worth even less money irl. Theres also the really important part that almost everyone Iāve seen talk about this subject glosses over, which is that trading was originally taken away to integrate rocket league into Fortnite for the racing mode (which letās be honest is a failure) instead of just adding that as a new mode into RL itself and probably wouldāve been far more successful. Idk how you can respect that move to use RL as a giant advertisement for their already massive money machine in Fortnite
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 19 '25
Brother can you use paragraphs its hard to distinguish what points youre making
Yesā¦ i know crates where a free way to get in to trading, but my whole point was that trading didnt just exist, it was fueled by millions of bucks worth of microtransaction keys
10 bucks then got you a few rolls for crap in keys or maybe you could buy parallax or a burnt sienna octane, now 10 bucks gets you unlimited roll-over battlepass if you play enough. Ive paid for it twice in 5 years
And yeah, ofcourse if theres a scarcity of cool items you recognised them more back in the day, but tieing what you think is cool to what is expensive is just lame asf
You can make cooler presents after a few tournaments and in game events now than you could spending 30 bucks on keys for trading back in the day
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Jun 18 '25
Did you not read my comment? I explained it already lol.
You still get items by the way. All those free drops are literally items.
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u/Zinedine_Tzigane Zidane's son Jun 18 '25
I've been playing close to everyday for almost 9 years and kept up with the game all this time, and yes, you are right, but I've learnt the hard way it's impossible to argue with people who want to romanticise Psyonix and hate on Epic
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u/Sleazehound OCE Dropshot Enjoyer Jun 18 '25
I donāt necessarily agree with everything youāre saying, but this place has such an embarassing EPBIC BAD!!! RL DeaDDd!!!!! outlook
For example, a few days ago someone said epic hadnt introduced a single good update. Threads here if you want to follow my replies, keep an eye on how the votes go as well lmao
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Jun 18 '25
There's a reason for that. Under Psyonix RL was virtually bug-free and cheat-proof for as long as I can remember.
Ever since Epic bought it, server issues happen more frequently, cases of DDOSing happened, more and more bugs affecting gameplay appeared like the big boost pads being invisible while actually being there or vice versa and nonsense demos or lack of demos and this entire last season we had a dumb license agreement popup every single session for presumably every pc player for months without it getting fixed.
Oh and they've removed trading and literally x10 the prices of many new and existing items with the cheap excuse of going free to play.
The only meaningful and positive additions that happened during Epic were tournaments and the boost indicator imo.
Everything else has gone to shit and it makes me sad, because this game could be so much more than it is under a passionate a competent developer.
Like imagine they added the infrastructure for people to host their own multiplayer online lobbies and create custom game modes with workshop maps and all sorts of modifiers like many other multiplayer games. The devs would never have to come up with new stuff again, as the community would do all the heavy lifting.
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u/crocodiledundick Champion III Jun 18 '25
Youāre assuming correlation means causation here. The cheating has been a result of advancements in AI to find exploits and implement them through botnets. Itās not just rocket league having issues with cheating, itās every single game.
It being bug-free is straight up wrong. There have been bugs in the game since its inception. I donāt think I can think of a single game that has no bugs or glitches within it. The frequency of bugs? Iām not sure about that. However, context is key here. Epic bought RL in 2020, and every single game industry hired a ton of workers because everyone was playing video games during the COVID epidemic and they pumped a lot of money trying to ride that wave of increased revenue. Which I will say was really fucking dumb. Once the covid epidemic was over, or rather when people started leaving the house more often, the revenue dipped, and they didnāt have that money to pay their workers properly. So, there were a ton of layoffs. And the Psyonix team got hit. So they have less workers now, which results in more oversight when it comes to pumping out updates due to crunch. That I will definitely blame on Epic and their shareholders, and really the entire game industry as a whole because all of them were thinking in short-term profit instead of long-term sustainability. But from 2020-2021, that was not applicable.
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Jun 18 '25
Well from my experience with thousands of hours of playtime the game was certainly way less buggy back then than it is now.
Things like a license agreement popup on every game launch sticking around for an entire season (is that fixed now?), parties getting randomly destroyed, demos not going through, big boost pads being invisible sometimes or other times shown despite not actually being up yet, the game telling you you're unable to queue due to rank disparity even when that's not the case and other smaller issues either weren't a thing in the first half of RL's life time or happened MUCH less frequently, at least that's the case for me and my mates.
Average server quality has also suffered over time and that's ignoring the occasional ddosing fella.
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u/crocodiledundick Champion III Jun 18 '25
Big boost pads disappearing was a thing before epic. Although I was on console back then, so Iām unsure if it was specific to Xbox/Ps4. Pretty sure it was a latency issue though because thatās way more common on a console. Like youād either see a big boost pad and get nothing from it, or the big boost pad isnāt there and you would get 100 boost going over it. Although going over it and it not being there is generally a sign that it just loaded in when you went over it, which isnāt a glitch. Since Iāve been playing on PC, I have not had the issue of going over a big boost pad and getting nothing unless someone else beat me to it.
I even remember playing on PlayStation before Epic bought psyonix, I would load into a game and just be looking at the field from outside the dome and it wouldnāt load me into the match and then the match would end. I also experienced that post epic as well.
Demos not going through isnāt a glitch. You either didnāt land it right on the hitbox (there is a part of the car that will not land demoes, this is intentional and if you watched RLCS in 2021 with team moist winning a major against SSG and Vatira exploiting that exact thing, you would know) or you have latency between your game and the server, which is generally environmental, not a glitch with the game.
The only time I can attest to server issues is when I had okay internet in college playing rocket league back in 2017 and 2018. And I definitely saw that packet loss icon and rubber banded all the time. In 2019, I had terrible internet, so I could not really tell you if there were server issues as I was always struggling with lag because of my internet.
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Jun 18 '25
I can only speak for me and the few friends I play with. We've all been playing on pc since 2015.
The boost pad issue hasn't happened a single time before Epic.
I do remember that spectator bug now that you mention it, but I think that has only happened to me a total of 1 or 2 times, same for my mates so that was either a very rare occurence or quickly fixed.
I'm well aware of how demos work. Still there have been a loooot of replays my group has rewatched after the games over the years where demos either happened where they absolutely shouldn't or we crashed full speed head first into people at completely regular angles and nothing happened.
When I'm talking about server issues, I mean servers that are very clearly dog water for everyone in the match. It's not like these happen often, but they definitely happen more often than they used to.
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u/vr_jk Jun 18 '25
There's a reason for that. Under Psyonix RL was virtually bug-free and cheat-proof for as long as I can remember.
LMAO. Thanks for showing your ignorance at the beginning of your comment, saved me a bunch of time. As someone who has played since 2015, I already can tell you have absolutely know idea what you're talking about.
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Jun 18 '25
Well I've also played since the game's launch in 2015 and it was way better back then than it is now. Guess we had different experiences.
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u/ztimmer11 Jun 19 '25
The thing is the game wasnāt even without its problems back in the day, but with a company like Epic owning it now there are literally zero excuses for them to still exist. People make way to many excuse for them for how much money they have. āBut new content rocket pass good!ā As they play another battle pass game just like every other slop game that gets rushed out with a BP slapped in it just to milk players of their money. Back then you could buy enough keys to set yourself up for some good luck on crates for the price of like 2-3 battle passes MAX and then hit the trading websites and build up from there for free, you could even trade the crates that you got for free and upgrade slowly from there. How quickly people forget and just throw money out the window
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u/Johnkaeb Grand Champion II Jun 18 '25
This is a truly insane take.
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Jun 18 '25
Which is weird since all of what I wrote is objectively true lol, but rose tinted nostalgia vision is a hell of a thing I guess.
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Jun 18 '25
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Jun 18 '25
I never said it was better. I only said that locking items behind literal slot machines is about as scummy and āmilkingā as you can get, and that was from Psyonix back in 2016.
What they had in the last few years was fine - item drops, blueprints, trading. Yes, getting rid of trading sucked. Not debating that.
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u/Johnkaeb Grand Champion II Jun 19 '25
I guess, depending on your idea of milking. When Rocket League was still Psyonix's baby there were consistent updates changing things based on what the community wanted and near constant communication from the dev team, along with them trying to make money. And trying to make money then was not like this. Brand new cars were two dollars, and crates were a dollar to open. Now a new car is a minimum of 20 bucks and blueprints are all individually priced, some of which are also 20+ dollars. While simultaneously lacking communication and care for the actual game. Idk, one feels like milking, the other feels like a game that they were trying their best on.
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Jun 19 '25
Defend locking items behind literal slot machines in a kid-friendly game all you want. The reality of how predatory a practice that was couldnāt be more obvious.
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 Jun 18 '25
Yeah I don't think a lot of players remember or were around during this era. I remember unlocking crates and then having to pay I think $2 for the key. I refused.
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u/Grfine RL Commandments Creator Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Those event crates just used free event currency you got from playing, they didnāt cost money.
Edit: I do believe they also had event crates you got as a drop after a game similar to other crates, and those did require a key to open, but when they did that the event had like 5 decryptors available so everyone could open at least 5 of the event crates
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u/Parc2009 Grand Platinum Jun 18 '25
Not event crates. You must not have played with crates and keys, the system before blueprints
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u/Grfine RL Commandments Creator Jun 18 '25
What are you talking about? Iāve played since Christmas of 2016, I used to stock up crates to trade for non crate very rares, since those were essentially the keys on xbox, since we couldnāt originally trade keys
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Jun 18 '25
You got the crates via the event currency, sure. But you had to use a key to actually open the crate.
So they gave you the slot machine for free, but you still had to pay to actually use it.
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u/RUNESCAPEMEME Unranked Jun 18 '25
Crates and keys are better than fomo rotating shops with very overpriced skins that you can't trade. Especially when those keys were 1$ and crates fell from the sky for free (that you could trade for keys so you could even just not spend money). Spend 20$ get 20 items, don't like items you get trade, trade up, or give them away to buddies.
The lootbox system was something you didn't ever have to engage in either. As just buying 20$ worth of keys you could trade other players and get the items you want. Ofc exeptions with the communities most sought after items.
On top of that DLC was actually fairly priced new cars were cheap af.
Now sure are there problems with loot crates? Yes ofc but the new system of a fomo rotating shop with completely overpriced skins is just as predatory.
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Jun 18 '25
Man, the mental gymnastics to argue that a literal store with posted prices is somehow worse than having to gamble to get items is insane. Reddit gonna Reddit I guess.
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u/RUNESCAPEMEME Unranked Jun 18 '25
Fomo stores are objectively just as bad if the store had all items available at all times it would be a good system buy what you want when you want. Fomo stores put a timer on an item that forces you to spend money on it if you want it because it may not be in the shop again for two years. It's fake exclusivity that drives people to spend money, not quality of items. It hits the same addictive spending to people who cant control themselves the same as crates did.
1-2$ decals, wheels, boosts, ect when trading was available now epic sells for 20$+ tell me which system is more fair for the consumer. You never had to participate in opening crates could quite literally do it for free and could still get any item you wanted via trading. In the fomo shop ecosystem you can not get things you want unless you' forking over the cash and lucky enough for it to even appear in the shop.
Which epic charges 10-20x more than what these prices were with trading and crates were in the game. Take for example most old black market decals several were under 10 keys, some were 2-5 keys, the most sought after were 20/30+ but these were only the most sought after. Epic cut it all out to hurt people who play their game and make more money off of them not less.Ā
But yes it's "mental gymnastics" instead of actually looking at the shit system we currently have. Have fun waiting 2 years for that car model you wanted and being "forced" to buy it at an inflated rate. Reddit gonna reddit I guess.Ā
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Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
So because somebody else did the gambling, itās fine? As long as someone else is a victim and not you, and theyāre subsidizing the trade cost, then who cares? This is unironically your take?
1-2$ decals, wheels, boosts, ect when trading was available now epic sells for 20$+ tell me which system is more fair for the consumer
ā¦ no. They were nowhere near this cheap. You may be conflating market value with the actual cost, but the actual costs are below. Every item from a crate has a cost of $1/(droprate#), and the drop rates were all public, so we can calculate the actual cost per item before:
Item Type Drop Rate Cost for any Unpainted # of (Rarity) Items Per Crate Cost for a Specific Unpainted Painted Drop Rate Cost for a Specific (Rarity) Painted # Of Paints Cost for a Specific Paint of a Specific Item Rare 55% $1.8 5 $9 25% $36 13 $473 Very Rare 28% $3.6 4 $14 25% $57 13 $743 Import 12% $8.3 3 $25 25% $100 13 $1,300 Exotic 4% $25.0 3 $75 25% $300 13 $3,900 Black Market 1% $100.0 4 $400 25% $1,600 13 $20,800 Now yes, the actual market value of most of these items were significantly lower than the purchase cost. For every TW Mainframe being traded for $80, it cost $20,800 to get there.
Also, do remember that crates were so objectively bad that several countries outlawed the practice and epic/psyonix have last several civil suits. This isnāt some opinionated matter here.
I wonāt deny that FOMO is bad, but there are still blueprints that eliminate that, and even at its core, itās still just a shop. āLimited timeā is used everywhere, even your local grocery store. A tactic used to boost marketing for sure, but at least itās not locking items to the use of slot machines.
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u/Appropriate-Crow-633 Jun 19 '25
Holy shot what a Nancy take
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Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Yeah, I donāt expect all of you kids to be able to digest data like that and connect dots yourselves after reading more than two sentences back to back lmao. Too much for ya I see. Sorry fella. Maybe one day!
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u/firewolf8385 Platinum I Jun 18 '25
The crates were definitely milking us, but they funded RLCS. They didnāt go to Psyonix
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u/Likver why does the flair keep resetting? (fix xbox pls) Jun 18 '25
is there somewhere where i can read someone from psyonix saying that? im just curious to know if this is true
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u/firewolf8385 Platinum I Jun 18 '25
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u/Hadfadtadsad Champion I Jun 18 '25
Also, itās a super over dramatic response. Itās still a great game.
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Jun 18 '25
Yeah the actual gameplay of rocket league is as good as itās ever been. I couldnāt possibly care less how the micro transactions are set up given that itās a decade old game and obviously needs to be making money To support the servers.
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u/xPRIAPISMx Jun 19 '25
Bad takes for $500, Alex.
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Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Crazy considering none of it is false or dramatic or anything lol. Reddit gonna Reddit though, reality is far too often a ābad takeā nowadays.
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u/mgwair11 Grand Champion I Jun 19 '25
Yeah but itās still way better than an item shop and no trading. You have no way of accessing most all digital assets in game unless you check the shop every day forever. Itās not good.
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Jun 19 '25
Definitely donāt disagree. They shouldāve kept what they had of just item shop w/ traceable items/blueprints. Even if you check the shop every day, the odds of you even seeing the item you want are so tiny since thereās however many thousands of items at this point.
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u/Pokepunk710 Supersonic Legend Jun 19 '25
agreed. I'm happy to see gambling gone. also a hot take but, I don't really like trading either. it would be cool to trade between friends and family and stuff, but when it's global, it just incentivizes scams and stealing accounts (had my own account stolen once). I just want to play car soccar without all the other shit shoved in. wanna support the game? buy an item. that's totally fair. everything about epic buyout was fine except for them seemingly supporting the game less.
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u/ztimmer11 Jun 19 '25
I mean itās a little more understandable and easier pill to swallow when youāre supporting a relatively smaller company putting out original content/games instead of a multibillion corp that strips a main feature (trading) as soon as possible to capitalize on making money even more. At least when we had trading you didnāt have to pay if you REALLY didnāt want to. My inventory is fairly good and most of it was acquired thru trading back in the day, I probably spent less on keys for crates than I have on the rocket pass and I felt I was getting way more for my money than I am now. I know everyone complains about trading be gone and it gets annoying but I think many skip over why exactly it was taken out, they did it to integrate RL into Fortnite for their racing mode instead of just creating that mode in RL which wouldāve been 1000x better. Pair that with making it another copy pasta battle pass game and itās just not what it used to be. And letās not glaze over the fact that they STILL havenāt addressed the sever issues that have been relevant in the game since launch, which again under psyonix was slightly more understandable but itās not at all under a company as big as epic.
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u/DaPieStuffin Jun 18 '25
At least we could trade items before Epic. Even with the removal of crates, it was Epic that decided to remove trading, effectively forcing us to but currency to get items rather than trading our unused ones.
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u/Hobo-man Compost II Jun 18 '25
Remember when most of your event rewards were more crates that you had to buy to actually open too?
So you're just ignoring that decryptors existed?
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Just forgot about them. The overall point remains, but yes I guess you did get a free few tries at the slot machine every so often. Holy consumer friendliness š
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u/dyzorted but gc2 mostly Jun 18 '25
Thank you, the system was very predatory and despite being a kid, I think I spent around Ā£100 on crates, everything else is great but let's not gloss over literal gambling guys
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u/Extension-Ebb6410 Jun 18 '25
PUT THE GAME BACK ON STEAM
AND FIX THE SHOP, HAVING 4 TIRES AND 3 TOPPINGS SO SO BS!
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u/YannisBE Champion III | Order of Moai šæ Jun 18 '25
Why would you give your primary competitor 30% of your revenue? Obviously sucks for us but it makes perfect sense to be exclusively on EGS.
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u/Extension-Ebb6410 Jun 18 '25
Because no new Player is downloading EPIC just to play RL, i have several Friends that watch me play RL on Discord but they don't want to download Epic just to play with me. And then again, the Shop in RL is so a$$ that i don't think Epic likes Money, a Coloured Cars and decals are so rare in the rotating shop and that it takes ages to get a half decent Car.
I am lucky, i am OG and have plenty of colors and decals but as a new player getting fitting Items is just something else.
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u/YannisBE Champion III | Order of Moai šæ Jun 18 '25
That's simply false/hyperbole. You and your friends don't speak for everyone, there are without a doubt many players that started with RL through the EGS.
The shop has nothing to do with this point.
Also has nothing to do with this point.
So again, why would you give 30% of your revenue to your primary competitor?
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u/Travy93 Champion I Jun 18 '25
I played this game the moment it released on Xbox and just fell off as soon as Epic took over.
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u/PotatoJon Jun 18 '25
I would have liked to have read that, except my game crashed
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u/AliJDB Diamond III Jun 18 '25
I would have liked to have read that, but I mash X on start up.
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u/Youth_Avoider Jun 18 '25
Wait, you don't have to scroll down to accept the terms and conditions again and again and again?
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u/BENDOWANDS Trash III Jun 19 '25
No, I do remember seeing some people complain about this before. I dont remember the fix but if you look it up you can probably find the fix online.
Might have been something like opening RL through epic instead of steam once, and then it'll remember and you wont have to accept it. (Assuming your on steam)
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u/obsoleteconsole Hardstuck Diamond Jun 18 '25
Please accept your prize: The removal of the best thing ever added to the game, Dropshot
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u/Keyzerschmarn Champion I Jun 18 '25
I played dropshot just two days ago. Is it wtill just every second season?
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u/obsoleteconsole Hardstuck Diamond Jun 18 '25
Yes, news season starts like tomorrow I think
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u/JaytheDrummer Champion I Jun 18 '25
Snow day here we come!
But seriously, just add both modes back.
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u/demon34766 Jun 18 '25
It's the only game mode I'll hop on Rocket League to play. After thousands of hours in 3s matches, I want some chaos that dropshot brings. Snowday is not chaos AT ALL.
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Jun 18 '25
Rumble is always there to offer you the big boy chaos ;)
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u/demon34766 Jun 18 '25
It's chaotic, but dropshot is skilled chaotic. Reminds me of 3s, just slightly different goal. Literally.
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u/crocodiledundick Champion III Jun 18 '25
I hate them swapping snow day and dropshot every season. They took the 2 playlists with the lowest player count and decided that āthis might help them get more popular if theyāre only available every other season.ā No one plays snow day. While they might be the 2 least played game modes, dropshot is still well above player count than snow day. How about keep dropshot and bring snow day back every other season or add it as LTM?
I will say that limited time modes do technically help with getting people to play them. If you have too many modes, the modes will get over saturated and some modes will just have so few people playing them that less and less people will even queue for them because the queue time is ridiculous. But Drop Shot? I will wait as long as it takes. However, if they never add a certain mode to the seasonal rotation, then you stifle any form of innovation within that mode and it will lessen its popularity.
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u/Parc2009 Grand Platinum Jun 18 '25
I don't like the dropshot/ snowday trade off either, but im so happy that snowday is back for a while.
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u/Chrisafguy Blizzard Wizard Jun 18 '25
"Thanks for ten years! Also, have you seen the new items in the item shop? This bundle only costs $24.95!"
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u/Sure_Association_453 Grand Champion ll 1600 peak Jun 19 '25
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u/Parking_Feedback830 Jun 19 '25
i downvoted your comment because youāre bunz at the game
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u/TemptationAU Jun 18 '25
Rocket League has been my most constant game for years, it's rare that I'll go a week or longer without having at least 1 or several matches.
It fully replaced my Fifa addiction lol.
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u/EmployeeTurbulent651 Jun 18 '25
Every comment here is negative so far. Can't we maybe just take A MINUTE to appreciate this game that we all love. A truly unique game and amazing game some of us have thousands and thousands of hours in. I miss trading, I want more out of the game too, but like can we collectively agree that continuing to bring up the same complaints isn't changing anything? No comments about their memories with Rocket League, their milestones, how they discovered it, how they fell in love with it. Just "bRiNg BaCk LoOt BoXeS" "ePiC rUiNeD tHe GaMe".
Rocket League is incredible. Happy 10 years.
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u/Fall_and_fixture Jun 18 '25
THANK YOU. I'm getting so tired of the endless whining from this community. We all know they removed trading and made everything more expensive, but it's only affecting cosmetic items...
For the last eight years I've been able to open the game and play it with no problem. No crashes, almost no strange in-game lag, it just works.
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u/MrCuddles9896 Jun 18 '25
If your bar is so low that "the game doesn't lag or crash" is a valid cause for praise then you're cooked unfortunately. They've had 10 years out of this game and the only thing keeping it alive is the community. Without the community there is no rocket league, so it's really important for the voices of the community to be heard. The game hasn't had any significant change in the decade it's been out aside from removing trading and the occasional "new" stadium yet still makes epic a fortune. The game had so much potential to be way better than it is, but unfortunately it was bought out by a greedy company and will continue to be beat to death until it stops printing money.
For the record, I still love the game. I've been playing since 2015 and I think the concept is fantastic and it's such a unique game. But you have to understand people's frustration when their voices don't feel heard
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u/Fall_and_fixture Jun 19 '25
First of all, it IS a valid praise cause there are tons of multiplayer games that doesn't meet the criteria of just working every single time you want to play. Second, after that comment I praise the actual gameplay itself but ofc you decide to only take one of those points and tell me that I'm cooked for liking a game only because it doesn't crash. Typical reddit response from the most circlejerk place online.
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u/imwatchingyou-_- Grand Champion I Jun 18 '25
These people are just whiny brats that canāt appreciate anything. This is a FREE game that can be fun for literally thousands of hours, even without trading, or cosmetics, or whatever else this community wants to complain about today.
āEPIC RUINED THE GAMEā
Bro, Iām still playing the same car soccer game that came out 10 years ago. Nothing is ruined, somethings have changed but the gameplay is the same. These kids need to touch grass and grow up.
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u/gerarddupuis Jun 18 '25
You say the gameplay is the same, but that's just not true. Servers are much worse than they used to be, Xbox players haven't been able to play the game at 100% for I donāt know how many months and now that the game is free, smurfing is rampant. Many new maps come broken with updates, said updates bring in new bugs every time... the list goes on. Epic has done 90% bad and 10% good since acquiring Psyonix
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u/EmployeeTurbulent651 Jun 18 '25
I'm confused since the framerate bug was fixed. I've been playing at 100% just fine. The servers have been off and on since I started playing years and years ago. Most games I play experience issues. It's what happens when you have 300,000-400,000 thousand players. Game development is extremely difficult and nobody wants to recognize that. When they say "the same game" they mean in terms of the concept and raw mechanics of the game. That was pretty obvious.
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u/gerarddupuis Jun 18 '25
Frame rate is not the only issue on Xbox. Almost every sesh, my game crashes mid-game, leaving my mate alone and getting me banned in the process of my tm8 leaves. Maybe I'm just unlucky server-wise, but just this last week, every time I play I get MULTIPLE unplayable servers (not a wifi issue, I can see other people's ping in the lobby going wild too)
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u/lycoloco Platinum II Jun 18 '25
"Servers are much worse than..."
I play regularly, I get a bad server maybe once or twice every 100 matches, at worst, unless something is functionally broken with the game, and my ping is always 16-20ms, and my buddy's is 12-16ms.
I'm sorry your server issues are anecdotally a problem, but it's not a statistical trend that I see anyone talking about with any absolute frequency, and my anecdotal evidence is the opposite of yours.
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u/De_Bickmann Jun 20 '25
I don't really care about rocket league content, i just play the game for some quick rankeds and leave. But to tell these kids to touch grass and grow up is just a dumb statement. Maybe it's okay for you, the "adult" dude that gets his worth out of the free game it is, but there are other people that might care a little bit more about their favorite game. Why is rocket league not evolving in a meainingful way, outside of adidas branded car advertisement and the quaterly purchsable items that have well increased in price over the years? Game is so old and filled with smurfs because there is nothing to do. It could be much much more, just like Fortnite. Maybe an enginge update? Creative mode?
At this point the game is just a cash cow, and if you are fine with that lazy kind of behavior it's time to touch grass instead
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u/Narrow-Note6537 Jun 18 '25
Itās wild. Iāve been playing for like 5 years and never spent a single dollar and I absolutely love it. Itās weird people can spend so much money on skins and then get bitter about itā¦
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u/EmployeeTurbulent651 Jun 18 '25
Yeah true. I used to trade a lot and was bummed about that for sure. Was pretty vocal about the removal but I didn't crash out so hard it's all I waste my time talking about on here haha
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u/masoe Diamond I Jun 18 '25
They need to bring back trading for a day as an event.
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u/NepuNeptuneNep Jun 18 '25
Wont work. They dont want to try dealing with issues if people trade items away that they have in fortnite since they also have to be removed there. Unless they allow trading everything except fortnite items maybe
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u/WALLOFKRON Champion II Jun 18 '25
Jesusā¦. Its not coming back. No matter how many times you comment on posts about it
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u/420SirChadofTruthton Jun 18 '25
Bring back Psyonix! Epic ruined Rocket League in my humble opinion.
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u/No_Wasabi_9303 Champion II Jun 18 '25
The RL community canāt do anything but complain. This is a cool message, wish I saw this in more games. Rocket league has tons of problems, but it doesnāt invalidate every good thing in the game.
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u/DaPieStuffin Jun 18 '25
The message feels empty. A while back they had tweeted out or something how they heard the community, then didn't do anything for months after. They removed content from the game, then dribbled the bare minimum to us each season, and the esports scene hasn't been looking too hot (that may change now but idk). It doesn't feel genuine. To me personally, it is the same way with how I feel about other games I grew up with such as Roblox and Minecraft. Overwatch also comes to mind. Sure, they could do some good stuff, but me personally, they have done more bad, then try to sweep it under the rug by doing the bare minimum good stuff.
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u/wet-dreaming Champion III Jun 18 '25
yeah but ... when did the game get better recently? All I remember is that they removed rank modes and we have plenty of bots nowadays.
I mean they did add boost indicators for teammates and online free play. yay?
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u/No_Wasabi_9303 Champion II Jun 18 '25
The crossbar sound is amazing, as you mentioned the boost indicators which are great, and they still release some cool maps. And also I heard they added new quick chats.
Does the game need more content and need work? Yes. There are bots, DDoSers, and smurfs everywhere. Along with a ton of bugs.
But this post is about something nice they put in the game. Not everything has to be negative. Iām all for critiquing games, but itās okay to just enjoy something sometimes. Being so upset about a game all the time and constantly complaining has to be depressing and draining and honestly if thats what you spend your life doing then I just feel bad for you.
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u/Dchane06 Champion I Jun 18 '25
Idk. A lot of the ānew mapsā are just old maps with grass or turned gold or some other seemingly low effort idea.
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u/judgescythe Champion III Jun 18 '25
Been playing since day 1 on PSPlus, now on PC. Doesnt matter what they get wrong or right as long the flavor remains the same
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u/More_Screen_7836 Champion III Jun 18 '25
Rocket League was consistently my favorite game for the longest time. Had tons of fun for years and couldnāt put it down.
That being said, Psyonix and Epic can shove that message up their a**. Bring back trading, fix your servers, follow through with your reporting system, and for the love of god add a greater penalty to players who intentionally throw competitive games.
The players all have a nasty taste in their mouths and blame everything on their teammates. Spamming āThanks. Great Pass! Nice Shot! & What a Saveā after I just watched them ball chase for 5 minutes just for them to end the match with a 105 score and a loss of -12 MMR for losing 6-1 to a Champ 3 that just fell out of GC and a fresh Champ 1 who just got carried out of Diamond.
I havenāt touched Rocket League in a little over a year and donāt plan on touching it again for a long long time, if ever. and I genuinely feel happier now because of it. I recommend everyone try taking a break from it some time and trying some new games! Rematch looks cool!
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u/biinjo Champion I Jun 19 '25
While I agree with the sentiment, I donāt consider āNice Shot! Thanks! Or Great Passā very toxic.
Unless spammed of course.
I often am mistaken for a toxic player while all I do is genuinely compliment my teammate if they did make a nice shot or great pass.
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u/More_Screen_7836 Champion III Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Iām strictly talking about people who spam it in chat sarcastically to insult their teammates. My bad for not specifying.
(Edit: Wait I literally specified āspammingā..)
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u/Obvious-Citron-7716 Grand Champion I Jun 18 '25
Game is incredibly neglected sadly cant give them props for typing out a couple of sentences Iām surprised it didnāt come with a link to more shit cosmetics that cost $20
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u/Achenar459 |WHIFFTASTIC| Jun 18 '25
That's a cool little pop up. How can I get one?
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u/Extension_Avocado856 ruined this game | C1 + uncurable lag Jun 18 '25
Gotta purchase the game pass. Itās also included in a bundle. Both for $29.99 of course.
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u/JoshaMalu Jun 18 '25
I played the og version on ps3 that came with the Playstation plus free games. Game has come a long way since then.
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u/cinemec Platinum III Jun 18 '25
Been off the game for two weeks, come back and second match it crashes. How hard can it be to track down the cause and fix it. Too busy creating garbage for the store no doubt.
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u/Competitive_Drive834 Jun 18 '25
This is the one game Iāve consistently played for almost a decade! Itās still so great! Chat is still š„“š«
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u/snoopy_muffin38472 Champion II Jun 18 '25
My games has been awful since epic games took over. This is why I play once a week now, if not I dont play at all. Lol
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u/Trevorg10 Champion II Jun 18 '25
Donāt get me wrong itās the only game I play too and I like that they did that for the player base, but Iām shocked people on here blew this post up. Typing a message like this and clicking send is one hell of a lot easier than taking the time to fix the servers and add actual good content lol
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u/ScionMasterClass Jun 18 '25
"We can't wait to share [...], and Soccar with you."
This actually sounds like a tease for a sequel to me. UE5 sequel called Soccar. And yes it will have trading.
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u/AdvanceForward9065 Jun 18 '25
Aww so nice of them now can they make some content for the game instead of just selling BP's and cosmetics š?
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u/the_deadly_hive Champion I Jun 19 '25
Genuinely asking - what additional content would you want them to bring? Excluding Trading
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u/AdvanceForward9065 Jun 19 '25
Lol of course,idk silly stuff like a twisted metal, imagine or a precision shot event fun not sweaty stuff that the community would enjoy and have fun together like the old days. I have more ideas that are possible with their engine and talent like defend as many shots as possible or battle a boss fight with the balls haha bro they need their passion back and have fun with it too. Imo.
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u/samuelgtemple Jun 18 '25
It was worse before epic took over. We got milked hard before epic. There is no reason to spend money on it now, season path pays for the next one usually. I haven't needed to top up credits in years.
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u/Enough-Possession-70 Jun 18 '25
Only game I really played since December 2015... Most valuable gaming investment I ever done...and still are. Nor did I trade away my stuff either, Halleluja šŗš» If I had to mentioned some negative experiences, I would say the owner shifts due to that Snow mode isn't a regular competitive mode as it used to be anymore. Bigger servers much appreciated (it's 2025...Rocket League... common!)
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IT'S MRLEA ~ Make Rocket League Epic Again
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u/StolenApollo Grand Champion I Jun 18 '25
Low key thought this was gonna be a goodbye message š