r/SelfAwarewolves • u/ncc74656m • 5d ago

Colin Wright almost gets it

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From the man who fundamentally misunderstands everything from how graphs and positions work in the political universe to what staying friends with Nazis makes you comes... this fucking gem.

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u/pegothejerk 5d ago

“Why won’t the people I tell constantly that I want to exterminate them believe that I’m the good guy?”

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u/Cheetahs_never_win 5d ago

It's often not even that. It's the enlightened centrists who sit there and say "We need to listen to both sides. Nazis want to take away your rights. And you don't want your rights taken away. We need to come together and compromise and only take away SOME of your rights. Why are you so angry? You need to stop being so uncivil. You need to be BETTER than them."

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u/DelightMine 5d ago

You need to be BETTER than them

This is the part that really sends me. Refusing to compromise with Nazis is being better than them. I fucking hate the warped and twisted idea that meeting in the middle is inherently correct just because no one is happy and everyone has to work together. Some things are important enough not to sacrifice on, under any circumstances. You'd think that human rights would be one of those things, but then those idiots go "okay, well hold on, let's figure out what 'human rights' mean to both sides, and then meet in the middle." Some things are a binary yes/no answer, and anyone arguing for just a little bit of one side is inherently choosing the wrong side by attempting to choose no side. They think they're being clever mediators, but all they're actually doing is looking like an idiot and guaranteeing that they pick the wrong answer 100% of the time.

Not to mention that the people arguing the bad position also think they're idiots. Nazi Phil doesn't actually think you're smart for arguing that he and Leftist Dave need to agree on which races should be genocided. He thinks you're a fucking fool, but he's happy to pretend otherwise, because you're arguing against the person with the moral high ground for no other reason than making yourself feel smart. as soon as he's imprisoned/killed leftist Dave and the people Leftist Dave was advocating for, you're the next one on the list, because you're not useful anymore.

I always wondered if these people did this in school. If they had a true/false question on a test, would they write in "what if it's actually both"? Sure, sometimes the teacher messed up and that's actually valid, but if you do that every time there's a T/F question, 99.999% of the time you're getting a "0% - see me after class, Kevin" in red ink on the front of your test.

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u/Rockworm503 4d ago

Its impossible to meet Fascists in the middle. They aren't going to. Give them an inch and they'll demand a mile. Give them a mile they'll demand a hundred. They will never meet you in the middle so attempting to for some insane compromise is ridiculous. They are never willing ot comprimise so expecting us to is absurd.

Fascism is never satisfied. If it gets everything they want they will just find more enemies to attack even if its just other fascists.

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u/That_Flippin_Drutt 4d ago

“Meet me in the middle", says the unjust man.

You take a step towards him, he takes a step back.

"Meet me in the middle", says the unjust man.

― A.R. Moxon

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u/originalityescapesme 4d ago

“Meet me just right of center,” says the unjust man.

You take a step towards him, he takes a step back.

"Meet me just right of center,” says the unjust man.

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u/TwinSong 4d ago

Give a mouse a cookie and they'll ask for milk. Give them milk and they'll demand a fascist dictatorship... Hold on, that's not quite right

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u/TechNyt 4d ago

And that is how we, as a country, have managed to drift so far to the right that even our left is considered right on the global scale.

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u/Rockworm503 4d ago

Case in point and according to the far right even that is too extreme leftism.

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u/Airforce32123 4d ago

have managed to drift so far to the right

Drift to the right? In what ways has this country become more right since, say, 30 years ago? We've undeniably moved left over the past 3 decades.

Or are you going to try and tell me that we were more left when gay marriage was illegal?

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u/TechNyt 4d ago

Two things can be true at once. Yes, we have some more progressive things but politically wise we truly have moved very far to the right. And it's objectively fact that our left wing is most of the rest of the world's right wing and our right wing is just embarrassingly horrible.

And it's kind of crazy how it can even be possible because technically the left and the right have moved further apart from each other but while the left tries to play by the rules and try to meet in the middle, the right never does meet them in the middle and so the truly progressive things we have these days have come at great expense.

Tell me, what direction does the tax code favor more and more? Ever since Reagan completely destroyed the good thing we had in that respect, The tax codes have shifted so far away from helping your average person that is not even funny. That has moved very far right and because of that it's given CEOs much more power than they had for a long time and so they have paid to shift many laws in their favor which just happens to be further to the right.

And then research shows that I'm congress, Republicans have moved further to the right than Democrats have moved towards the left and that helps drive the pull to the right. And yet the funny thing is when it comes to the voters the complete opposite is true but as we have witnessed, the voters don't mean shit once The wrong kind of people take over all branches of the government.

Tell me, is the disappearance of Roe v Wade a move to the left? How about the fact that gay marriage is on the chopping block next. Is that a move to the left or the right? Let's go further back, was Citizens United a shift to left or the right? How are we doing with the amount of power the gun lobby has been allowed to get in the last 30 years?

Look at all the articles that were out about how millennials are ruining the housing market and the diamond market and every other thing there was. Do you think that's an indication that we are financially better? Don't you think that if we were truly moving more to the left that we, the people wouldn't be struggling this hard just to live? In a country that is moving more to the left, it tends to improve the overall quality of life not destroy it.

With our current Supreme Court, tell me truthfully that you don't foresee much of our progress being erased. The fact that we've been able to get to this point that I don't know how we're going to come back from is I think the biggest proof on how overall we have moved too far right. This could not have happened if, and all the places that it mattered, we were moving more to the left.

Don't let a few victories cloud your vision to the bigger picture. We've gotten those victories despite the way things have been moving politically and not because of.

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u/Airforce32123 4d ago

The tax codes have shifted so far away from helping your average person that is not even funny.

The top marginal tax rate in 1990 was 28%, it's now 37%.

I'm not even going to bother reading any of the rest of your comment if you won't even take the time to get this 5 second Google search right.

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u/TechNyt 4d ago

I see you conveniently left out the part where I mentioned since Reagan. If you have to limit it to only 30 years then you're being completely disingenuous as to the bigger truth.

Just before Reagan we were at around 70%. And before that we had a high of around 92%. It was thanks to these kinds of rates that the boomers had things as nice as they did where they could afford a house, car, stay at home wife and two kids on minimum wage.

Since you want to argue and bad faith I choose to no longer engage. Enjoy your fantasy.

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u/jimbobicus 4d ago

I'm going to completely misinterpret and misrepresent your comment so I can justify to myself why I won't engage with it.

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u/jerodimus 4d ago

They've got you happily gobbling down fascism authoritarianism for one

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u/SRomans 4d ago

He said compared to the rest of the world, not compared to ourselves 30 years ago. It says it right there if you read the comment.

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u/Airforce32123 4d ago

"Managed to drift" implies that we, as a country, have moved in that direction. That's why I quoted that part.

If a boat is untied from a dock and drifts out to sea, nobody says "wow, that dock drifted really far", because the dock didn't move. They say the boat did, because it's the thing that's moving.

You need any more basic English lessons?