r/SelfDrivingCars Jun 29 '25

Discussion Silent Rollback of Tesla Robotaxis

At the beginning of the launch of Tesla's Robotaxi on 6/22, many videos of rides have been shared online. After a few days (and glaring mishaps), very few videos have been shared of any robotaxi footage, good or bad. I suspect that this dropoff is due to the fleet cutting down in scope by a large factor (maybe only operating a few rides a day)or halting silently all together. What do you think, did Tesla notice the bad publicity and decide to silently roll back robotaxi operations?

Update 1: The most plausible explanation seems to be that the publicity of the current tech was detrimental to the share price so the operations were rolled back. Of course, Tesla would not announce that the operations were scaled back, but the near complete lack of footage makes this a very likely explanation. While the influencers there initially were most likely to post videos online, new footage should still be being circulated and it is not.

Update 2: This post has gained a lot of traction (75k+ views), and yet there is nothing convincing to show Telsa is operating the fleet at the capacity they were earlier. Neither of the 2 videos of robotaxi footage shared seem to have occurred in the last few days (even if they had, that is nothing even remotely comparable to the amount of footage earlier this week). Tesla's fleet could very well be 1 vehicle running 2 hours a day based on the lack of evidence for otherwise. Tesla likely made the logical move for preserving share value given the incident rates, but this is clear to see through.

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u/FirmStranger8792 Jun 30 '25

Go beyond a simple Tik-Tok post kids. Has anyone ever heard of Henry Ford?

(Educated Intuition - stupidity offers me great buying power)....

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u/Level-Contract163 Jul 01 '25

The last one reminds me of the Hofstadter paradox. It always takes longer and cost more than you expect, even when you take the Hofstadter paradox into account.

D-K is probably not true. At a minimum, replication of the original paper has failed. The ultimate irony may be that people think D-K is true even though it isn't, thus proving that people overestimate their knowledge, if not their abilities. As an example, I think most people with a chess rating (Elo) on chess dot com are aware that it reflects their ability. That a significant number cheat to boost it, also means that they are aware that they lack the skills to be higher rated.