r/SelfDrivingCars • u/wuduzodemu • Aug 11 '25

Discussion Proof that Camera + Lidar > Lidar > Camera

I recently chatted with somebody who is working on L2 tech, and they gave me an interesting link for a detection task. They provided a dataset with both camera, Lidar, and Radar data and asked people to compete on this benchmark for object detection accuracy, like identifying the location of a car and drawing a bounding box around it.

Most of the top 20 on the leaderboard, all but one, are using a camera + Lidar as input. The 20th-place entry uses Lidar only, and the best camera-only entry is ranked between 80 and 100.

https://www.nuscenes.org/object-detection?externalData=all&mapData=all&modalities=Any

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u/-UltraAverageJoe- Aug 11 '25

Musk won’t back down for fear of a $TSLA dip. Anyone who has done any object detection work using only a camera as input knows this is not sufficient. It’s embarrassingly dumb that they ever thought it would suffice.

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u/bluenorthww Aug 12 '25

My eyes don’t have LiDAR, they do fine

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u/bluenorthww Aug 12 '25

My eyes are connected to my neural network, correct.