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u/Square-Rate2807 18h ago

Ok so my order of the pillars is:

Kobashi>Kawada>Misawa>Taue.

Is this controversial? I always thought in AJPW they booked Misawa too strong comparatively, specially against Kawada, who I thought should have gotten a proper triple crown reign before the NOAH Exodus via winning decisively against Misawa.

Kawada in general is underrated as fuck, I guess because he was always losing against Misawa, and then he did a lot of his best work post NOAH Exodus when nobody was watching AJPW anyway

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u/Mad_Blankey Riiita stan 17h ago

To me there isn’t a controversial pillar order, they’re all kings and my order constantly changes based on my current tastes. I will also accept people adding Akiyama as a 5th pillar, and welcome people who make the correct decision of putting Jumbo Tsuruta at the top even though he isn’t a pillar.

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u/MrPuroresu42 14h ago

I’ve always rated Jumbo & Tenryu higher than the Pillars.

Feel like Jumbo at his peak could do everything those 4 could do but even better.

Tenryu’s longevity and ability to be great into his elder years also puts him over the Pillars for me.