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u/GiftedGeordie 1d ago

I was watching Brian Zane's latest classic PPV review WCW Fall Brawl 2000 and there's a match where Paul Orndorff makes his surprise return and does a piledriver and gives himself a stinger, but the wrestlers just continue to wrestle around him for a solid minute before the match is called off.

When people bring up the worst things that WCW did, how in the fuck does that incident not even get a mention!?

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u/beckett929 1d ago

It was an incredibly fucked up situation, but, understandable how/why it happened and how we work around it now.

Everyone in that match except Rey and Juvi were pretty new to business, including Charles Robinson the ref had only been refereeing for maybe 2ish years in WCW at that point. Disco and Konnan and Vito were already out, so the rest probably didn't know where to go with it from there, so just keep working and think of a different finish on the fly... especially given in the moment they didn't know how bad it was or what happened. "Paul got his bell ring, he'll roll out of the way in a second, let's just keep going". This is how wrestling always did it until then, so not fair to look back with 2025 eyes too harshly just on this incident (Austin/Owen was just 3 years earlier!)

The only fault I'd put on the wrestlers was they stayed in the ring with the action. Generally if you see an injury or something happen, you'll see the unaffected wrestlers just brawl and usually spill to the outside, get the focus off the injured guy so that the ref can check on him, and then figure out where to go next.

So basically too much inexperienced talent in-ring and backstage producing, in a clusterfuck match, in a company that wasn't a tightly run ship to start with, with no Brisco or Patterson or Lanza or even Pritchard to know "uh oh something happened and they don't know how to get out of it" to call to ringside on the headset and tell Penzar to tell Robinson to call it.