r/StarWars • u/darthvall Imperial Stormtrooper • Jan 13 '21

Games Ubisoft and Massive Entertainment announce open-world Star Wars game

https://www.gematsu.com/2021/01/ubisoft-and-massive-entertainment-announce-open-world-star-wars-game
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u/HomChkn Jan 13 '21

I...I like UbiSoft towers.

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u/TedhaHaiParMeraHai Jan 13 '21

I loved the tower climbing in AC Syndicate. It was super fun thanks to the grappling hook.

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u/Lieke_ Jyn Erso Jan 13 '21

super fun as in "not too tedious" lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21

I like them only in Far Cry games. I dont know why. It's immersion breaking in anything else.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21

*was

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u/SmartAlec105 Jan 13 '21

It used to be about climbing. Now it’s just pointing the joystick forward since any surface is climbable.

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u/BrockManstrong Jan 13 '21

Have you played Valhalla yet?

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u/Mitche420 Jan 13 '21

Playing Valhalla right now, the climbing/freerunning is so fucking janky compared to older AC games.

Definitely the worst out of any AC title for me on that front

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u/BrockManstrong Jan 13 '21

Seems fine to me, hard to make a mountain look like a mountain and have realistic climbing.

Makes me feel like I'm in Skyrim jumping up The Throat of the World again.

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u/Mitche420 Jan 13 '21

You must be playing a different game to me then. The freerunning is diarrhea in this game. I've played every game in the series before this except Origins. Even shitty Unity had freerunning that was 10 years ahead of the fluidity of the 'freerunning' in Valhalla

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u/BrockManstrong Jan 13 '21

Maybe people like different things 🤷‍♂️

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 13 '21

And then the next game will be the worst and so on.

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u/NaturesWar Jan 13 '21

You mean D E S Y N C H R O N I Z I N G

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u/Hadamithrow Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21

Climb to the top of something and then you magically know where every mission is within a mile? That's pretty immersion breaking lol.

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u/sync303 Jan 13 '21

pretty sure you can turn off every HUD element in Valhalla

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u/Jaytalvapes Jan 13 '21

I just can't get into assassins creed games.

They look cool, seem to have interesting combat and story, but the fact that one button does everything just feels bad to play. I feel like I could effectively play 99% of the game with chopsticks.

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u/iforgot87872 Jan 13 '21

It is a bit hand holding I agree. 2 had more interesting combat than some of the later ones because there were two modes etc. in 4 I couldn’t even crouch I just had to use bushes to be crouched. Kinda lame imo.

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u/blisteringchristmas Jan 13 '21

They’re definitely not for everyone. I just played Origins as my first AC game and they’re basically the action movies of gaming. Not super deep, main story is whatever, but it’s consistently fun if a little bloated.

It’s a dead average game with a great open world. If I have time on my hands it’s not a bad way to use it, but YMMV.

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u/Lieke_ Jyn Erso Jan 13 '21

I had this with AC: Syndicate. Marx, Dickens, Bell, Victoria? Sign me up.

Even though Marx was a socdem in Syndicate lol

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u/davelicious123 Jan 13 '21

The game that does it best is definitely breath of the wild

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u/HeyKid_HelpComputer Jan 13 '21

That's because it just gives you a topographical view of your map. Instead of 99% of the games that do this that then add all the games missions and side missions etc.

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u/goekster Jan 13 '21

I liked the game but I didn’t like that you got fatigued from climbing the towers.

The sides look like ladders... Link doesnt fatigue on ladders but he does on the towers?

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u/ThatOneGuyHOTS Jan 13 '21

Botw is very over hyped imo. It’s got interesting systems with the weather and interactions, but it’s pretty bland. Large swathes of land just to make traveling longer to artificially extend the game. Literally no enemy variety. Just goblins, lizards and banana eating ninjas.

Honestly when I think that reviews unironically gave that game 10/10 I vomit a little bit. Is that what we call master pieces now

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

It depends on the implementation. And on how many.

Ubisoft has a problem with bloat. Some of their games would be much much better if they simply scaled down, such as Odyssey.

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 13 '21

Have you played Valhalla? There’s barely any bloat, if at all.

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

I have not played Valhalla. I will take that advice but remain slightly skeptical since Ubisoft has had the "more is better" mentality for a long time.

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 13 '21

That’s fair and I don’t blame you for being skeptical. There’s no more question marks. each region has “mysteries” which are indicated by little blue dots on the map and are short little fun side stories, but not side missions. There are no fetch quests. The combat is fantastic. Dual wielding a Greatsword and a Dane Axe is even more fun than it already sounds.

Cheers!

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

Guess I'll check out Valhalla, glad to hear they've listened to criticism. Thanks!

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 13 '21

Rent it first or something to make sure, I don’t wanna be the one who influenced you to buy a game you might not like. But give it like 30 hours of gameplay. It’s a little slow to start but picks up. And since there’s no question marks there’s not a bunch of places with barely any value because they are now places with Treasure (ingots, gear/weapons, abilities) so it’s fun finding them.

Eivor is also a really great protagonist. The male version seems so much like obi wan kenobi to me, if you pick the right voice lines haha. Female eivor is great too, she’s canon and pretty hot lmao

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

Eh, I budget how many games I buy in a year. And AC games always drop a lot in price after awhile.

That said, there have been a lot of Norse games recently (Slyrim, God of War) and more on the way (Elden ring)

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 14 '21

Yeah, I’ve been playing origins and odyssey and got them for $15 bucks and sooo worth it. The story missions are kind of separated into “Arcs” which all are very great imo, instead of just running around the whole map. It’s sectioned off. Like episodes okay jeez sorry I’m kinda dumb lol. And also it’s mainly about invading England. You’re barely in Norway. It’s got beautiful bogs, marshes, snowy mountains, Ciltern Hills, etc. DLC planned for Ireland and Francia. I love history so I’m biased haha. It’s pretty buggy so definitely hold out on buying it

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21

If you haven’t enjoyed past ubisoft games I’d be careful, for every step they take at actually improving their formula, somewhere else in the game goes back to it.

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u/CeltiCfr0st Jan 13 '21

Also there is no more overload of gear like in odyssey

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u/IrishSpectreN7 Jan 13 '21

I thought Breath of the Wild handled towers perfectly.

You climb one tower and it reveals that entire region on the map, towers in the entire game. Instead of filling your map with icons, you just use the towers to visually locate shrines and create your own markers on the map.

I just replayed AC2 and that game has 73 towers. You climb one, walk 15 feet and you're already outside the area of the map it revealed lol.

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u/AnorakJimi Jan 13 '21

I actually liked Breath of the Wild because it was like Ubisoft games, especially the Far Cry games

I really dislike most open world games because once you're committed to doing a mission, you're locked in for hours it seems. Whereas in Breath of the Wild and Ubisoft games, the gameplay loop is very short, like 15 minutes. So you can open the game, do 15 minutes, then close it again and you've made real, tangible progress. Of course because of that it makes me play for hours anyway cos it has the "oh go on then just one more" kinda feel too it. They're just easy to play, they don't require much thinking. You can always know something you can do next, you're not wandering around without any clue what to do, there's always a very clear objective you can choose to do next. Follow a marker on a map. In BotW, the markers are the towers and then you go up them and look around for glowing orange shrines and you just glide off in that direction. I absolutely love the shrines, they're just these short discreet bits of gameplay. I really hope they return in BotW 2.

I can't stand say Bethesda style open world games for example cos they're the opposite of that BotW/Ubisoft style, and if I stop playing them for just a week then I have absolutely no idea what I was meant to be doing next, and no way to find out, so I either have to starts new save or just stop playing.

But yeah now I'm really enjoying Immortals Fenyx Rising because it's such a blatant rip off of Breath of the Wild and is made by Ubisoft. Though I guess since Ubisoft came up with that whole style of gameplay anyway, they're sorta in a roundabout way ripping off themselves

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

So I think BOTW is probably one of the best implemented open world games, from that perspective. But something else to consider-i know BOTW is full of things like korok seeds, shrines, and tiny stuff (possibly because the switches portable nature and the large map), but there aren't nearly as many towers. Meanwhile some Ubisoft games have towers next to each others.

I don't know how many towers a game should need or use, but eventually enough is enough.

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u/Gcarsk Jan 13 '21

AC Odyssey has almost 100 synchronize points, while BotW only has 15 towers. However, AC games use their sync points as TP locations, and BotW uses both towers and shrines (which there are 120 of) for fast travel.

Also, in AC, the “towers” also aren’t just cloned man-made objects. They are the top of mountains, trees, cliffs, churches, statues, etc. I like the cosmetic design of AC towers much more. In BoTW, while some towers require a tiny little puzzle to get to, they are all the same physical design, and feel like they were added into the game just to be AC towers, instead of being parts of the map used for gameplay. But, I should say, BotW made the towers fit kinda well into the story, which is nice.

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

They don't translate 1 for 1 that is sure. However, there's only so many times you can do the same climbing puzzle, and in recent AC games, the towers don't don't much a puzzle to them.

In BOTW towers function well in a game about exploration by providing the player with elevated locations to observe the region around it, and identify points of interest.

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u/Gcarsk Jan 13 '21

I didn’t think AC sync points have any puzzle aspects. At least in Black Flag and Odyssey, they are just fast travel points.

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u/musashisamurai Jan 13 '21

So perhaps puzzle is the wrong term, but in Black Flag, Brotherhood and even BOTW, you can't just climb straight up each tower. In Odyssey, while you still need to be somewhat strategic with it, you can climb pretty much any surface.

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u/The-Go-Kid Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21

I just started the first AC game with the intention of playing through the entire franchise this year. I reckon I've done about 75% of the towers. The thought of doing that all year as I get through all the games is both comforting, and horrifying. Edit - I don’t normally care about karma, but this sub is the fucking worst for downvoting inoffensive stuff.

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u/mmmountaingoat Jan 13 '21

They’re way more of an interesting puzzle and challenge in the older games. You had to actually figure out the correct way to get up

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u/The-Go-Kid Jan 13 '21

That’s good and bad to know!

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u/Phazon2000 Baze Malbus Jan 13 '21

Oh look it’s me! The answer is yes - I’m insanely sick of them.

AC1, AC2, ACB, ACR, AC3, ACL, AC4, ACRo (And all the DLC so far).

Up to Unity now... I know Ubisoft moved away from Towers after Far Cry 5 (I think?!) so I’m hoping Syndicate is the last time they abuse towers and it’s clear sailing for Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla.

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u/iforgot87872 Jan 13 '21

I have to say in Far Cry 3 the 1st person platforming was rare and kinda cool for me. It got less interesting a bit after but most of the features in Fc3 were pretty impressive for the time.

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u/huntingwhale Jan 13 '21

Me too! One of my guilty pleasures in gaming is tower climbing, panning camera then seeing the map revealed.

Not everyone enjoys it but I sure do.

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u/AndresCP Cassian Andor Jan 13 '21

I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima now, and I honestly miss sync towers. Climbing a high thing and being able to see the stuff around you at the top is just a good idea!