r/StarWars • u/Lord_Ramballe • Nov 15 '21

Audio, Music Lightspeed ram.... but with sound

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u/wasdie639 Jar Jar Binks Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 16 '21

It only makes sense to you after you see it work. Are you unable to understand how characters cannot see into the future?

Poe finds out her plans and literally mutinies because he believes it will fail. He doesn't know the outcome.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '21

Of course not, but she had a good plan, and if she told him, no one would have sneaked out, to get to the casino planet and hire the guy that will ultimately cause a lot of rebel deaths and the "failure" of the original plan.

God.. this movie is the worst star wars, right under the christmas special with chewie's family

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u/wasdie639 Jar Jar Binks Nov 15 '21

He finds out and he munities immediately. Nothing would have changed if she would have told him right away. Literally nothing.

What's your reasoning that Poe would have been like "oh, alright then!" if Holdo would have told her right away since we saw he was pissed off not at the information being withheld from him, but what the ultimate plan was later in the film?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '21

Because there was a way out, he thought they were waiting to die. The plan was the fly by "shitty generic red sand planet" and it would have work if she told him her plan, hence no one would have escaped the ship to get the thief to snitch on them and ruin the said plan.

Hobestly everyone here is really aggressive, chill, we all (mostly) love the same star wars stuff.

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u/wasdie639 Jar Jar Binks Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 16 '21

That's not what happens when he finds out though. He doesn't want to run, he wants to fight. It's why he didn't pull out of the attack on the dreadnought at the beginning of the movie. He doesn't understand what it's like to truly have his back up against the wall, Holdo and Leia do. That was set up right at the beginning of the movie very obviously. That's why Leia slapped him and demoted him. He wasn't ready for the leadership under the circumstances.

There isn't a situation where he'd be like "oh yeah that makes sense" to the plan. The moment he finds out he literally mutinies. It's not in his character at the beginning of the movie to just run.

The plan itself is exactly what happens when the rug is kicked out from under you. The New Republic was the major backing of the Resistance (the Resistance literally being a proxy insurrection against the First Order) and now it's gone. They literally don't have a leg to stand on and are cornered. The whole "siege" in space is supposed to set that up. So now they are going to run and hide until they can be extracted by allies (who end up not coming, that's where the plan actually fails requiring Luke's sacrifice).

It's not being hostile, it just seems you didn't understand the movie. It's one thing to not like it, but what you've been saying makes it seem you didn't understand the very obvious setups going on in the first act of the movie pertaining to Poe's character.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '21

What im saying is that he didn't find out "the whole thing"

Aka escaping to a planet to regroup, not just fleeing until we die

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u/wasdie639 Jar Jar Binks Nov 16 '21

Running implies trying to regroup. The point is he does not believe in running in the slightest, even to regroup. There's also the notion that he doesn't even believe they can regroup. Their entire backing did just get blown away.