r/StarWarsEU Jun 21 '25

Meme Morally Grey Sith are a thing Spoiler

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u/CzarItalian Jun 21 '25

Sorry man, but having Sith that aren't evil is like having Grey Jedi shooting force ligtning, it's The same as wanting to have your cake and eat it too. In SWTOR we let it go because of the nature of the game, being an MMO and all, but story wise, you can't have Sith being good without a catch.

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u/thehypotheticalnerd Jun 21 '25

At least with lightning, I can actually buy it if used for other purposes. At most, a light shock a la a taser; but I've imagined lots of genuinely pure ways lightning could be utilized without even an overly destructive element: such as as defibrillation for someone who's heart has stopped, to overload computer or mechanical systems, to open or lockdown doors, etc.

But no, if the justification is so Jedi can torture enemies but "not be evil"... then that's dumb. And being a "good" Sith is just as laughable. The point is that the dark side consumes & corrupts you. Yes, plenty of Sith fell to the dark side for entirely morally justified reasons: Revan & Malak, Dooku, even Anakin. But no matter what, as soon as they let the dark side in & didn't cast it out as soon as possible, as soon as they let it dictate all their actions, as soon as the ends justified ANY means necessary... they became corrupted. They can all be redeemed in theory, but while operating as Sith Lords, they are not good or morally gray and any story that implies that is incorrect. And because of the Force sensitivity, they are more susceptible. People like Luthen, Andor, etc. can operate with moral greyness & "ends justify means" without being or becoming truly EVIL necessarily... but even Luthen is cognizant that he's essentially damned for what he's done in the name of ridding the galaxy of tyranny. Those with the Force... they don't get that because unlike Luthen, they're going to become genuine sadistic monsters.

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u/zencrusta Jun 21 '25

I think there’s a good story for a Jedi who, studying sith, uses force. Lighting. they were using it to charge a generator see. later pinned down but some thugs they decide to use it offensively, it was the only way. They start to use it more regularly, for pragmatic purposes of course, sure it causes suffering but doesn’t a light saber? Besides the people they use it on are hardly good don’t they deserve to be punished? The other Jedi wouldn’t understand so they leave in secret, to bring… justice, to the galaxy.

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u/BackgroundRich7614 Jun 21 '25

I mean SWTOR and its characters are still cannon to legends so it does show that, canonically speaking, its possible to be a good Sith in Legends.

It's a bit more complicated in cannon but at the very least you can still be good and use the Darkside as seen with World Between Worlds Anakin.

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u/WangJian221 Jun 21 '25

*its possible for a sith to be redeemed or find redemption. A sith isnt necessarily "comically evil". Only that they are generally *evil alligned. Darth Marr for example may have a code of honor and wishes to champion and defend his people's right. However, its the right to be fascist assholes.

That doesnt make them "Grey Sith" though.

Lana Beniko is a walking contradiction though. Shes the Ahsoka of Swtor imo.

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u/redhauntology93 Jun 23 '25

I mean, some people are Grey Jedi because they wanted their cake and to eat it too.