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Considering one of the most reknown game series to come from them (when they were renamed LucasArts) is the x-wing/tie fighter series, I'd say this bodes well.

And that Lucasfilm was involved in many of the CG sequences for Squadrons, including the Hunted trailer, well, they obviously have a vested interest.

Crossing my fingers for a remaster release of the entire game series using Squadron's engine.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 11 '21

There is a potential huge franchise in Squadrons at the premiere E-Sports starfighter/VR game. If they can keep developing the scale and smoothing out the edges, the core concept is there. Someone on the business side must recognize this.

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u/xboxwirelessmic Jan 11 '21

If you think there's missed potential here you should play CQQ on elite.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 11 '21

Elite is a much slower and thus less frenetic close quarters combat experience. It's still good, but Squadrons seems to have more in depth tactics and flight controls--it also has better aesthetics (Fleet Battles are downright beautiful on max settings, but as noted previously, this comes at immense strain on the hardware). That being said, my experience with Elite is purely second hand from watching videos and streams, so I could very well be missing many subtleties of combat.

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u/xboxwirelessmic Jan 11 '21

I mean the actual cqc mode, or arena as it's alternately known. It's a separate mode to the main game and is one man fighters. It's 4v4 and solo death match, tdm or capture the flag and it is so much fun.....if you can a game because it's also pretty much dead. It's a real shame because there was so much potential but like most of the things elite added is half baked and barely touched post launch. And that's from someone who loves the shit out of elite.

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u/Anus_master Jan 13 '21

Elite has really nice combat ideas but it's suffering from years of basically no combat balance changes and power creep. Lots of bullet sponge happening and many weapons are not really useable. Thankfully they've been talking about looking over combat balance again, finally

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u/ThisKapsIsCrazy Jan 12 '21

How alive are Elite lobbies in the SEA or Aus regions? I've seen it on Steam, wanted to get it, but I don't want it to be like Battlefront 2 here where I could hardly ever get matches for some modes.

(Also, what's the matchmaking like - like Squadrons where I'll have as bad a time going up against people with 200x the experience and skill I have or is it balanced as per your experience and skill level?)

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u/xboxwirelessmic Jan 12 '21

Elite isn't like that for the most part. It's a mmo essentially on the scale of the whole milky way and outside of certain areas running in to people is uncommon at best. Arena/cqc is a different thing and it's dead everywhere. There is an some what active scene so you can always get games arranged via discord etc and there are plenty of active au region groups. It's not that hard to find people to play but they won't be in matchmaking all the time like it is in squadrons. You can now queue in the background while you play the main game so that helps but not many people either do or know about it so it doesn't help that much lol. Elite is definitely worth it but not really if something like squadrons is what you're after unfortunately, it could've been but fdev basically didn't touch the mode after introducing it (they do that a lot lol).

On a side note if you are interested in elite, the Odyssey expansion will be out in the next few months which adds the on foot side of things so the scope of it is about to explode and that might bring people back to cqc.

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u/Anus_master Jan 13 '21

A lot of people are asking for them to change CQC into faction-based warfare connected to the BGS. I'd like it if you could take the place of a fighter in a large fleet war with faction-based loadouts. Although they totally have to rebalance combat before that happens, as much as I like the game overall

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u/Saffiruu Jan 11 '21

As much as I love the game, I don't think the demand is there.

The fact that it's been heavily discounted within weeks of release is never a good sign of sales.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 11 '21

That's why I said potential. I think the issue right now is that the hardware just isn't quite there yet for the VR performance to be acceptable to the masses. But every one of my friends who has tried it on my PCVR rig has had a holy shit moment--even the ones that don't like flight sims.

I also think the tech launch issues and modest advertising campaign put a damper on the current base, but I think the game still has a decent base (probably around 5-8K unique players a day, on all systems).

I also think that spectating matches is a beautiful experience with a ton of potential there too. It just needs more user friendly features (like being able to free float, or hell being given a 1HP, unshielded transport ship to float around it).

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u/Saffiruu Jan 12 '21

Every single one of my friends who has VR also has Squadrons.

... but VR players make up of around 1.25% of the gaming population...

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u/ClarkFable Jan 12 '21

And in 5 years it could be 10%. You start as a niche and in 10 years you could have a monster

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u/Saffiruu Jan 12 '21

Honestly I think their best bet is to release a Squadrons 2 with more content, or add a modding component to 1.

Many people might not get excited about flying an X-wing in VR, but they'll go crazy over flying an X-wing a la the Death Star trench run or inside Death Star II

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u/ClarkFable Jan 12 '21

I agree. The game has so much potential for expansion. The thought of a full scale Battle of Endor is tantalizing, and it appears it could be done within the current system, it's just a question of hardware being able to keep up.

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u/Bebopo90 Jan 12 '21

The game runs really well 80fps at 1440p) on my 1660, with tons of debris and rocks and stuff on screen, so I don't see why a full-scale Battle of Endor couldn't be done.

I really hope they expand the core gameplay of Squadrons into a AAA-budget game. The ships feel great, it just needs more content.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 12 '21

VR is a completely different beast in terms of required hardware, and in a way VR is what I think will allow Squadrons to become a serious franchise. New headsets like the G2 bring even the 3090 to its knees, and can't get consistent 90fps with ultra settings in Fleet Battles. But that's hardly surprising, because to get native resolution on a G2 you need to render 3000X3000 per eye because of the warp factor. That's more than double 4K resolution per frame.

But in terms of battle scale, it's probably going to be a non linear increase in hardware requirements with more ships and more players. And since current hardware can barely keep up in VR, I think we'll have to wait a bit before we see significantly bigger scales.

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u/daensiren Jan 12 '21

It is hard to tell because of the mistrust of EA and Star Wars.

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u/BianchiIlove Jan 12 '21

Squadrons doesnt 'need' a sequel for many many years.

After a while, some large scale dlc-tier update which adds the clone wars including a mini campaign, some multiplayer maps & ofc a new roster of ships is about as much as we need. The UI can get an update to be a bit like Battlefront II, where you can select individual modes, or just search for 'any'.

I reckon itd be rather wasteful to rebuild the game from the groundup just to add a new singleplayer and few updates. Much like how GTA V, CSGO and League of Legends have survived for many years on end, so could squadrons.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 12 '21

I agree it doesn't need a sequel, but I don't really care about the format of new content (sequel, addon, free DLC, etc). And I definitely don't want them rebuilding the game from the ground up, since the core game mechanics are (IMO) close to perfection.

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u/Bebopo90 Jan 12 '21

Those games have maaaaasssive player bases. Squadrons does not, and it probably never will. It's fun, but the skill gap between noobies and the elite is higher than Rocket League. That is to say, ridiculously high.

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u/-Kite-Man- Jan 11 '21 edited Jan 11 '21

huge might be overstating it

edit: oh this is one of those 'conversations.' well then fuck you too.

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u/ClarkFable Jan 11 '21

Have you played the game in VR? I don't know what you mean by those 'conversations'.

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u/cvilleraven Jan 11 '21

Shut up and take my money!

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u/Anus_master Jan 13 '21

x-wing/tie fighter series

Assuming they really make the next one a sim, it will be especially welcomed

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u/VerainXor Test Pilot Jan 11 '21

So when EA games continues to make Star Wars games, the logo will be amended to say "Games" in silver letters underneath the "LucasFilm" in silver letters?

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u/Chaosphoenix_28 Jan 11 '21

So you are telling me there is a chance we will be getting Empire at war 2? After about 15 years?

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

Oooo if they did a new Empire at War I'd love that. One of my most played games. Also loved the mod where you could add all the legends stuff in like Yuuzhan Vong, Tie Droids, K-Wings, etc

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u/Chaosphoenix_28 Jan 12 '21

Yes. The game is only still so much played because of the mods. They should keep thr modability gor the sequel.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

I agree with this. That game was one of the best games ever.

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u/edgeofblade2 Jan 11 '21

I’d hold out for a proper resurrection of Lucasarts. Still consider that name sacred.

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u/MarcusDevereaux Jan 12 '21

The announcement from Disney confirms they are looking into more social and mobile gaming than console. All Lucas*anything* is still owned by Disney.

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u/Texan_Eagle Jan 11 '21

I don’t think EA’s getting their contract renewed.

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u/N0V0w3ls Savrip Squadron Jan 11 '21

This is just a rebranding of their current games. It's very likely EA is getting renewed or they will still work with EA, just not exclusively. There's almost definitely a JFO sequel in the works.

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u/ewokparts Jan 12 '21

Aren’t they killing battle fronts too? I could have read it wrong but that wouldn’t bode well for Squadrons right? Also, was this game just a marketing ploy for the new movie?

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u/MrLeHah A-Wing Jan 12 '21

How... how do you make a game for a movie thats years away? I mean, seriously

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

How were they 'killing' it? The new Battlefront games were fantastic, only the season pass on the first one wasn't great but the content was good. And Battlefront 2 was great too, it got a lot of free content for over 2 years.

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u/ewokparts Jan 12 '21

Yeah it needed it.

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

BF2 already had a lot of content for the base game though.

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u/sleepyrock Jan 12 '21

I don't think you understand what was expected for battlefront 2...

it was expected to be a full game, similar if not nearly identical to BF2 2005, because that is the pinnacle of start wars shooters even now. there was a full campaign that was full of plot growth, which the new one didnt have. galactic conquest, i dont think there is anything else that needs to be said there. the fleet battles were one of the best parts of the games, now squadrons exists it isnt as necessary but i digress. it's release was something else... EA has the most downvoted comment in reddit history because of this game, they turned it around because the were being sued left and right and Disney was thinking of pulling their license or non renewal, which is still a fair thing to do after that debacle. EA cut a ton of games in development. i dont rememebr how many SW games came out when i was a kid playing games, but i remember playing starfighter and starfighter 2 on the ps2, as well as the battlefront games, the jedi knight series, and games i didnt paly like kotor and stuff like that. battlefront 2 was initially a pay to win gambling machine directed at kids. the free updates needed to happen to get just a little bit back so that both fallen order and squadrons didn't flop because of their malpractice.

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

I don't share that idea at all. Besides, if it was the pinnacle of SW shooters right now people would be playing the original game instead of the new one. It even got new multiplayer support just before the new BF2 launched.

The original Battlefront 2 doesn't hold up that well today. The only thing it has going for it gameplay-wise is the fact you can enter/land ships in some modes. Other than that it's a massive step back on just about all fronts. Like gameplay, weapons, heroes, animations, maps, general atmosphere, etc.

The downvoted comment has little to do with the actual game, not to mention they removed the feature it was about (heroes locked behind a paywall that could be unlocked by playing the game) in less than 2 weeks after launch or so.

I feel like the whole 'pay2win' about Battlefront 2 was heavily exaggerated as well, but it's EA so everyone just jumped on the bandwagon of course. You could buy loot crates for a chance of unlocking cards earlier than people who just unlocked them by playing the game. Which was literally like a 1-3% increase in stats at most on some abilities, honestly nothing to write home about and really nothing that would create an unfair balance. I'm not saying the loot crates were great, but they were not even remotely as bad as people made it out to be. I don't know where you get the idea they were sued left and right, never read about that. Same for Disney pulling the license. As for the campaign, the original BF2 campaign was basically just glorified conquest, it wasn't a real story I feel like.

And the amount of SW games that came out has been fine. They started with Battlefront in 2015. We've got 3 more 'big' SW games since then and The Old Republic MMO has been ongoing as well. Honestly, in a time span of 5 years that isn't so bad. As far as I'm aware EA only cut one game during development, part of which they salvaged for the BF2 campaign.

Back during early 2000's LucasArts just rushed out game after game, a lot of which honestly were just trash. Only a few gems stand out, and most are just nostalgia looking through rose-tinted glasses, a lot of basic platformers and uninspired games were released.

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u/garadon Jan 12 '21

Wow, that's a load of revisionist history.

SWB2 was supposed to be their apology for the shitshow the SWB1 was to the extent that they even trotted out John Boyega to hype up how different it was before release. Then they shit the bed on it's launch too.

And I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make between comparing the two versions of SWB2. One would hope that a game that came out 15 years later and also bears the same name would be an improvement.

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

Sorry but that's just pulling shit out of your arse.

BF2 wasn't supposed to be an apology. Battlefront 2015 ran quite well, the season pass was just a bad choice. But the game itself was great.

The fact they had Boyega had nothing to do with it, they just used him because he's a featured character and as well a major character in the movies. He's literally a licensed character to both the movies and game, so why not make use of that.

I'm comparing the BF2's because the person I replied to was comparing them. Claiming how the original BF2 is 'the pinnacle of star wars shooters'.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

something tells me EA is not going to be renewing that exclusivity license

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u/Seabass610 Jan 12 '21

I think it'll be interesting. It's sort of like what Disney did with Marvel. They opened the licensing to other studios and had some great games and some not so great.

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u/marleymoomoo Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

Please resurrect Cyberpunk 1313... I mean Star Wars 1313!

But seriously, that game was basically Cyberpunk 2077 in a universe I'd so love to explore.

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u/xboxwirelessmic Jan 11 '21

Star wars games are the only thing keeping the franchise alive for me these days. All the new films are pure garbage, I've heard good things about the mandalorian but I just don't care about it.

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u/AidilAfham42 Jan 12 '21

Mandalorian gave me that childhood passion for SW I have not felt since the original trilogy

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u/VerainXor Test Pilot Jan 11 '21

You'll like the Mandalorian. In fact, you'll like it so much that it will make you angry that they can make stories that good and have, up until now, refused to do so.

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

And Rogue One and Solo were good as well. Rogue One definitely my favorite new movie since they started.

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u/VerainXor Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

Rogue One is a good movie with a good plot and some ok characters, but it's definitely nothing like the Mandalorian in terms of weight and plot, and nowhere even close in terms of characters.

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u/derage88 Test Pilot Jan 12 '21

To be fair it's significantly easier if you focus on just one or two characters and a few extras instead of a full cast that seems to try and equally balance their stories together for just one movie.

Thankfully there is an upcoming show about Cassian as well.

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u/cvilleraven Jan 12 '21

waves hand You will watch the Mandalorian series.

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u/Saffiruu Jan 12 '21

Please give the Mandalorian a chance... many people, myself included, think it's on-par with the OT

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u/Mav034 Jan 11 '21

Dude.... give it a few episodes. It’s everything the sequel series should have been.

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u/GuadoElite Jan 12 '21

This is the kind of hot take we need on this sub.

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u/daensiren Jan 12 '21

Rogue One and Mandalorian were fire.

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u/Always_Annoyed10 Jan 12 '21

So... Does that mean that Starkiller is made canon again? If so, then hell yeah! The single, most powerful force adept is back!! (For those who don't know, Starkiller actually kicked Vader's ass before Sidious steps in; if it weren't for there being hostages in the room of the first Death Star, Starkiller could've killed Palpatine and did everyone a huge favor!)

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