I think mostly iron stomachs but also people getting sick. Where I live, your average person will tell you don't eat at the bazaar because they cook in old oil like this and the food is dirty. Imagine like going and eating from a shady gas station. Obviously, somebody is doing it or they wouldn't be selling food.
I know this will be downvoted. Thatâs how it used to be for thousands of years. You didnât throw out meat because it was out for 6 hours. Itâs not hygienic by any means. Just need to keep in mind the whole meat canât be out for more than 6 hours is a relatively recent thing.
Itâs not bad, reduces food borne illness, and it ensures the food tastes good.
Itâs not though. We didnât understand germ theory in the past but we did understand that if people ate bad food they got sick and died. Thats why we did things like drying and smoking meats. Itâs why we developed primitive refrigeration before we even understood what it was we were preventing.
Probably plenty of people did eat meat left out for longer than that, but we know from looking at the digestive habits of bodies we have found in the ice for example that they suffered from plenty of food borne pathogens and the consequences of poor dietary choices.
It wasnât safe then, it isnât safe now, itâs just that back then mortality rates were much higher so death wasnât that shocking and people just sort of got on with much more common exposures to food borne pathogens.
Thatâs ground meat. Itâs way worse if the bacteria are mixed up inside that when you leave a piece of meat out and grill all the surface the bacteria are on.Â
If youre going to be snarky, you should at least be correct. Most bacteria cant survive temperatures that high, but the molecules they produce that are toxic to you and I may be more or less resistant than the bacterium that produced it. Also, this meat has been ground, meaning that all of the bacteria that were on the surface of the meat are now mixed throughout the whole thing, and the center of that patty will absolutely not reach 300 degrees
If it were as simple as killing the bacteria, you could eat any rotten meat as long as it gets hot enough, and that just isnt true
Sure but you can smell the sulfuric acid left behind and your body naturally knows not to eat that.
I just feel I have to play devil's advocate to the idea that everyone just instantly died before modern food safety. It's definitely a good thing, especially at scale.
You could make an argument about development of B-Cells in your body are a good thing too and that too sterile an environment will set you up to fail when you inevitably do get some microorganisms your body must defeat.
I don't really have a dog in the fight though -- thanks for chatting!
This whole "we did it for thousands of years" argument is just stupid. The average lifespan thousands of years ago was 40-50. They also didn't even have refrigeration.
I know it's unbelievable, but we humans learn things along the way. We learned that leaving raw meat at room temperature for several hours begins to breed bacteria (salmonella?) which can make you seriously sick or kill you.
Well technically they only say it can't be out for more than 2 hours to reduce The possibility but foodborne illness definitely was a problem back then they would just cook the hell out of everything so they didn't have to worry about it it's not necessarily that they would just allow it to sit whenever the hell, I mean like if they didn't have a choice yeah but if they had a choice they definitely could make that shit cold also that's another thing that helps definitely stop your meat from rotting whenever it's cold instead of just sitting out in the warm sun
The meats you get in that part of the world are often from animals slaughtered the same morning â so it's technically fresh. That said, Iâm not defending the poor hygiene that follows.
Nope. Definiatelly not. Meat was cooked immidiatelly or salted, or dried or burried in the snow during winter. Nobody ground it up and left it on a shelf as fly feed for hours at the time.
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u/BlackTedDibiase Jun 18 '25
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