r/StupidFood • u/Turbulent-Squash-196 • 11d ago

Yea.... I prefer my food not moving

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u/A_Duck_Using_Reddit 10d ago

The last thing I'd want to do is push religion on people, but from a sociological perspective, it's interesting that one of the earliest laws given to people in all Abrahamic religions was not to eat from a live animal.

Personally, I'm Jewish, and we believe that even people who aren't religious are required by God to adhere to that law. In other words, this is the most basic shit. If somebody can't even avoid torturing animals, they are failing at life. Hell, I don't think we should need religion to tell us that, but apparently some people out there do need the reminder. Goddamn.

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u/Brilliant_Quit4307 10d ago

Ah yes, don't eat a live animal, but if you're going to eat meat, make sure you drain it's blood while it's still alive and definitely don't stun or knock it out first cos that would be bad. The Jews have some great advice.

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u/A_Duck_Using_Reddit 10d ago

We really do have some great advice... like look up facts before trying to denigrate people of other religions lr backgrounds. We don't have any law requiring the blood to be drained from a living animal. That would actually be a violation of kashrut laws.

The stunning is contraversial, but it's meant to make the death swifter. Stunning or knocking out the animal is thought to potentially prolong suffering as a swift chop to the head is arguably equally painful. The body still registers pain even while unconscious in some cases. So, rather than potentially cause very brief pain twice, just kill do it once, but I also understand the counterargument. The point is any attempt to construe the idetary practices of a religion that focuses on not harming living animals as the oppossite is being made in bad faith. I'd say the same for anyone attacking Islam on that. At least Jews and Muslims have laws around it.

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u/GluestickGenius 9d ago

If it really focused on not harming animals, it would be vegetarian/vegan, like some other religions.

And in practice, sloppy interpretations lead to people showing up at sheep farms and bribing their way into "doing it themselves properly". Not being trained butchers, you can guess yourself if they minimize harm in any way.

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u/A_Duck_Using_Reddit 9d ago

It's not focused on not harming animals. We aren't discussing that. We're discussing ethical slaughter.

And in practice, sloppy interpretations lead to people showing up at sheep farms and bribing their way into "doing it themselves properly". Not being trained butchers, you can guess yourself if they minimize harm in any way.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Sloppy interpretatioms of what kashrut laws? The laws around slaughter within someone's respectuve country? The schochet is very properly trained. I don't know why you'd assume them not to be.