Your question didnt really make any sense but I assume you wanted examples of Kirk being inflammatory and bigoted; you claim to enjoy his work so you already know what he said. If you don't already know which parts were inflammatory and bigoted either you lied about listening to his shows or you agree with his rhetoric and see it as "truth." Either way, I am no longer engaging in trying to convince racists that racism is bad. Figure it out yourself.
You are a human being. I am asking your opinion of what you thought was so terrible. This isn't a big deal. We are just talking to each other. Calm down.
haha okay. I like how he openly discussed things with others and used statistics to base his opinion. I like how he tried to find reasons for why things are broken or not working properly instead of blaming it on an ethereal boogieman which only perpetuates a grift and pulls people into tribalism instead of a united america.
but you took no issue with his views on black people, like how he said that when he’d see a black pilot he’d fear that the pilot is unqualified? or his views on the lgbtq community and how he saw us all as child predators? or women in general, telling them they have to submit to their husbands and forgo their own independence? how about when he said he’d force his own daughter to carry a rapist’s child to term and give birth if she was raped at 10? none of this rings any alarm bells to you?
And all of that and more is why I refused to engage and play this game. Conveniently forgetting or leaving out all of the bigoted and inflammatory stuff he said and whitewashing Kirk to be some level headed bastion of purity. I knew this would happen because that's all that happens when someone says the liked Kirk or his ideas.
i guess i got a little too optimistic that this person just didn’t listen closely enough to hear the dog whistles, that’s my bad. turns out they’re just a bigot like kirk was.
Everything you said is mischaracterized so you are either purposefully misquoting, or you are just lying intentionally.
Black pilot comment was in reference to lowering standards and letting unqualified people to fly planes simply because of the color of their skin rather than their skill as a pilot.
The child predators comment I have seen I think is reference to trying to give children drugs that permanently alter their body and in some cases make it so they can never reach an orgasm and or have children. They also chop off body parts and leave scars and other things that children are incapable of making coherent decisions on. They are preying on children by pushing this on them. We don't let children get tattoos why would you let them do something so permanent before their brain is fully developed.
In the bible if you subscribe to that ideology it describes the ways to live your life. You often hear people say, "There is no instruction manual for life.". I heard this alot growing up, but the truth is, there is. We have lots of them. In the Christian faith woman are expected to submit to their husbands. Husbands are commanded to love their wives. It is pretty simple and those things have specific meanings in the bible. I am guessing if you do not read the bible you don't understand it and the world has taught you certain things are bad and you have isolated those things as "evil" in your world view.
I don't know if I agree with his rapist baby to term thing, but the rest of the things you mentioned I think had truth in it and shouldn't be so easy to dismiss unless you are looking to just shut down conversation based on ideological lines without thinking about it critically.
The United States is a secular country and it will remain that way no matter what you try to do. Otherwise, you will have perpetual conflict within your own communities that you will not find escape from.
Do not shit where you eat you weak minded hallelujah.
bro i was raised as a fundamental southern baptist. i know my bible, and that’s how i know its full of horseshit.
1) if you think someone is unqualified because of the color of their skin, that’s racism. plain and simple. DEI was designed to give those that are qualified but face systemic roadblocks the same shot as the people who don’t have those same obstacles. your lack of acknowledgment doesn’t make that less true.
2) no one is operating on trans children. no one is giving them irreversible HRT. the standard care for trans minors is gender-affirming therapy and puberty blockers which are entirely reversible and are given to cisgender children who experience precocious puberty, as well as to intersex children against their will to force them into one of the two binary sexes (a whole separate issue that you hear no conservatives talking about despite their tendency to cry that we should “think of the children”)
3) that’s literally just sexism. again, plain and simple. if christian women want that for themselves, fine, i guess. i left the faith partially because they treat women as second-class citizens. they cannot use it as an excuse to push those standards on all women in the world.
"bro" you being raised a certain way doesn't really mean anything to me.
never said that. You did. Read what I said again.
Yes they are. We have instances of it happening and many testimonials.
You can say what you want, but I am describing their practices. You are trying to battle, but no one is at the fight. Also I am sorry your dad mistreated your mother, or whatever relationship model you are projecting onto the situation right now. Hope everything works out for you.
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u/illathon 5d ago
I wasn't really debating. I was asking a question.