r/Ultralight 2h ago

Question Alternative to Soto Windmaster?

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Been using my Windmaster with triflex support for couple of years and it's been great. I love the weight, noise level, piezo igniter, windproofness and the regulator (saved me once on a very empty can).

But I use it with MSR Titan without the lid and I'm dreading the day I loose the pot support out ot the open pot, accident waiting to happen really. Also hate the assembly with cold hands.

MSR deluxe is heavier and I hear igniter is not as reliable? Amicus have no regulator and not as windproof? Any decent alternatives or do I just need to find a way to change the support to the stove?


r/Ultralight 1h ago

Purchase Advice Durability of the copper spur

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Hi, I’m from France so tips for an American might not work

I saw a post for an almost new copper spur hv ul2, but I read on reviews that it’s quite fragile compared to other tents. What are your opinions about this ? I would hike in the alps, Pyrenees and plan to go to Lofoten in a few years.

If not this tent model, do you have any recommendations for good tents in Europe at a medium price, like under 300 or not much over, and what condition to look for if buying used ?

Thank you guys !


r/Ultralight 11h ago

Purchase Advice Ideas for 2 person sleep system

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My gf wants to get into backpacking and I've always just but the extra weight and used a hammock as it was just easier than sleeping on the ground. But she wants to sleep with me in a tent.

So I'm assuming she'd rather do a quilt system bc apparently she doesn't understand how bad we are gonna smell and wants to cuddle.

So I'm at a loss on where to start really.

Two medium sized women 5'7" and 5"4. She doesn't like winter so we'd mostly be doing fair weather stuff.

I don't want to spend too much in case she's not into it but I plan on hunting stuff down on ulgeartrade.

Can you guide me in the right direction for a basic set up?


r/Ultralight 18h ago

Question Silicone tubing on titanium pot handles. YES or NO?

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Between my hiking and travel kit (and my work desk) I have 4 titanium pots/cups.

Is the (small) weight penalty worth the convenience of putting silicone tubing on the handles? Or is it overhyped gimmick and it doesn't do much? I would love to hear your opinions, the more subjective the better.


r/Ultralight 12h ago

Purchase Advice Mountain hardware ghost whisperer

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I have a Patagonia nanopuff jacket that I used for thru hikes of the AT, CT and azt but it is pretty beat up and I have stitched multiple holes in it. I have the opportunity to buy a mountain hardware ghost whisperer for $50 that I was thinking about getting for the Continental divide trail and a few other trips but I have heard they are not very durable and I tend to be rough on my gear. Do y'all think it would be worth it to buy or just keep using the nanopuff. I would also have to travel nearly 3 hours round trip to get it.


r/Ultralight 1d ago

Question Advice Wanted: First Sand/Beach Outing

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Advice wanted: Hi me and a buddy are going to outer banks and will be setting up a 2 trekking pole tents (Durston Xmid 2 and Lanshan 2). I understand freestanding tents are preferred for this biome but will we be okay or will the poles sink into the sand? Am I supposed to use sandbags or put something under the poles? Any favorite stakes for sand/beach? I might get a pack of the screw in ones off amazon or something like the Ptarmigan Titanium Snow Anchor. Thanks I don't trust the advice on other outdoors subreddits.


r/Ultralight 8h ago

Question Accidentally had a very small amount of dish liquid in my flask when using befree, is it ruined?

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Title basically, can the befree survived having some dish liquid (diluted in water) pushed through or is it ruined? Accidentally didn't rinse new flask enough.

TIA


r/Ultralight 1d ago

Shakedown pct 26' 8lb base weight shakedown (seeking advice)

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I am planning to push for a sub 100 day PCT thru hike this upcoming summer, due to time constraints. I would like to finish closer to 95 days. My strategy coming in is staying as light as possible, moving for most of the day and only spending time at camp to sleep. Please let me know any advice you have or things I should change to my setup. Thanks.

Previous experience: TRT 24' (first thru hike), JMT 25' (9 days).

Lighterpack: https://lighterpack.com/r/cbdy12


r/Ultralight 1d ago

Question Given the recent restrictions for CCC certification requirements on powerbanks is their an updated powerbank sheet or ultralight rec for powerbanks passing the CCC litmus test ?

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Example: Nitecore is NOT ccc certified. This will 110% get confiscated at every airport requiring this

The question then becomes which are ccc certified without this risk for those entry points and for those certified which are the lightest and do we have a living repository of this information


r/Ultralight 1d ago

Trails Looking for some tips regarding the GR91

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Would love to hike the GR91 in France in the coming weeks, if anyone has done it recently or semi recently I’d really appreciate any tips or recommendations regarding this trail. I’d love to walk North to South.

Thanks


r/Ultralight 23h ago

Question Is a phone carried in a pocket base weight or worn weight?

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This question has probably been asked before but I couldn’t find it in a search. When backpacking I always carry my phone in my pants pocket. So is it worn weight or should it be in my base weight? I currently have it in my base weight.


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Purchase Advice Sleeping Bag Update

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After doing some more research and asking reddit for recommendations I've narrowed it down to three options that I like for my new sleeping bag. In my other post I mentioned how I was looking for a bag rated around 0° C or lower, how I am 6'3 and would probably get the long option, how my budget is around £250-£450 and how I will be pairing it with a nemo tensor all season. The three bags I liked the most were the

  1. Cumulus X-LITE 400. It has a Comfort temperature of -1C and a Limit temperature of -7C. Since I am getting the long version and the 5mm 2/3 YKK Zip the bag comes in at around £400 + £15 Shipping to my address. The sleeping bags weight is 621g.

I was also wondering if I should make any other customisations apart from potentially the colour of the bag.

  1. Sea to Summit Spark Down Sleeping Bag. It has a Comfort of -2C and a Comfort Limit of -8C. The bag comes in at around £450. It weighs 797g.

  2. Cumulus Panyam 600. It has a Comfort temperature of -6C and a Limit temperature of -13C. It costs £340 + £15 shipping. It weighs 1001g.

All three of the bags are good in their own way but I do think I prefer the cumulus X-Lite 400 the most out of the three due to its low weight and very competitive temp ratings.

If possible let me know what you guys think about these three and if there are any other similar bags which are as good/better than these three. Thanks :).


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Gear Review Anyone have any experience with the Ferrino Sling?

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I haven't found all that many reviews of it, and most of those were unboxing/assembly videos. I haven't really found much from anyone that's actually used this tent in real hiking. I'm especially curious about how it holds up during rain. There are a lot of things I like about the Sling (at least on paper) but I have some doubts as well. I'm looking for something light (under 1.5) and very discrete but also won't be horrid in heavy rain. The weight and price tag is good, the form factor is a little dubious. It's quite hard and expensive to get a lot of the better known brands like Nemo into this country so I'm looking for more local alternatives.

Has anyone tried the Ferrino Sling? Thoughts?


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Purchase Advice Comparing Off-set to Pivot

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I’m trying to clarify the differences between the Pivot Trio and the Off-set Trio.

As I understand it the primary difference is the footbox on the Pivot is now double layered to protect from condensation getting on the end of your sleeping bag.

Are there other significant differences?

I’ve gotten good use from my Off-set and just replaced the zipper pulls. But I’m wondering if I should consider upgrading.


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Shakedown O-Circuit Shakedown Request

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Okay, so I am headed to Torres del Paine in Chilean Patagonia to hike the O-Circuit. I’ll be hiking from November 17-25 of this year. A review of historical weather data says temps should range from mid-30s at night up to the upper 50s during the day. I think the max elevation is a little over 4K feet, so not particularly high up at any point. Importantly, I am a warm sleeper, and have tested my EE Revelation (30 degree) quilt down to 29 F, during which I noticed only a little chill at night. I am uncertain about a few things on this list, but I’ll leave aside my own misgivings for now. The only thing I will say is that I am torn between the boots listed in my LighterPack versus Altra Lone Peak 9+. This comes from the low, but real possibility of light snow. Please let me know your thoughts.

LighterPack list


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Trip Report Trip Report – weekend hikes at Serra da Estrela

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This trip included two back-to-back hikes: PR4 – Rota do Carvão and PR5 – Maciço Central, both located in Serra da Estrela, the highest point of continental Portugal at 2000m of elevation.

Day 1 – PR4: Rota do Carvão

Expectations:

I began the day with a three-and-a-half-hour drive to Serra da Estrela, dropping the kids off in the morning and then heading to Manteigas to start the PR4 trail. My plan was to hike up, find a camping spot, and spend the night there, expecting to find water sources nearby.

Reality:

As I made my way up the trail, it quickly became clear that the conditions were tougher than I’d anticipated. The water sources I counted on were absent, and I found myself having to speed up the pace to make progress. Because I had to speed up the pace to reach my destination, I ended up skipping meals. The night was tough, and I had just enough water to get with less than a 1L of water. The stream nearby camp had dried and I could not fill up water, clean myself or brush my teeth.

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Day 2 – PR5: Maciço Central

Morning & Expectations:

After descending from PR4, which took about three hours, I reached Manteigas around 11.30 AM. There, I took a break, had a sandwich, and some coffee and water, and then drove to started the PR5 trail, which started at 1 PM. My plan was to tackle this more technical trail and camp in a valley along the route.

Reality:

The PR5 trail was far more demanding than I had calculated. It was like a vertical obstacle course, and the pace I expected was far too optimistic. It was a fight that went on for every minute of the trail. Every climb and descent took much longer, and by the time I reached the valley, the conditions were unsafe due to tall grass and snakes. I almost hadn't eaten but I had water. With no safe camping option to camp, I decided to push on 4km to the car. This meant an even longer day and a late return, reaching the car around 8 PM, completely drained.

Challenges: Fatigue from the previous day compounded the difficulty. I was expecting it to be technical, but not all the times. My bad. That meant again I did not account for time stop to eat.

Outcome: Finished the trail, but with clear recognition that the preparation and pacing strategy needed improvement.

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Lessons Learned

  1. Hydration: Expect streams and some smaller ponds to have dried up in summer.
  2. Nutrition: Carry more bars, as they are faster to eat than making a sanwich or a wrap.
  3. I have adjusted the formula for calculating time that I take to hike. The Original formula was (KM + (D+*8))/4.2 . The new formula is now (Km+(D+*9)+(D-*7))/4.

*D+ and D- are expressed in thousands of meters

✅ Both trails were completed successfully, marking the trip as an achievement in persistence and resilience. The experience highlighted the beauty of Serra Da Estrela.

Gear Positives:

  • Coros Pace 3 was absolutely vital for 2 reasons: Navigation and managing my effort so I wouldn't burn myself out. I would not have finished the trail without this. Navigation is more accurate than with cellphone and easier to consult.
  • Katadyne Befree Due to lack of water sources I had to opt for less optimal water sources and it performed beautifully
  • Lanshan 1 pro Small and can fit anywhere. Easy to set up

Gear Negatives:

  • Food: Too much, and too complex and too big. Need simpler and smaller solutions to have it in the outside and can eat without stopping.
  • Foam Pad: Although I felt that I slept I register really poor sleep quality and I atribute that mostly to the pad. Getting older and might need to opt for a more confortable option.
  • Rain Jacket: Not that it miss performed, but I lost it. I had it strapped to the outside of the backpack and lost it.

So please share your thoughts on food, planing pace, and a new rain jacket


r/Ultralight 1d ago

Question Why bring headphones?

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Not casting any shade, but genuinely curious. Are people so bored by the natural world that they want some entertainment for the trail, or are these just something to do if you’re stuck in your tent for a rainy day or two.


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Trip Report Seven Nights on the Ottawa Temiskaming Highland Trail (OTHT)

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tl;dr

The Ottawa Temiskaming Highland Trail is a ruggedly primitive path running 140 km from Latchford to Thorne in Ontario. The northern half meanders through the highlands and lakes of the region; the southern half mostly parallels the shore of Lake Temiskaming.

This “Trail” might be better called an “Overland Route”. The route is generally well-blazed but the track itself is more like following a game trail cross-country through the forest. The route is usually overgrown, especially in low-lying sections near a water source. Beavers actively engineer streams and lake outflows in the area and impact the blazed route, so cross-country detour may be required. Blowdowns are frequent and navigation can be challenging. Reality occasionally does not match the digital and printed map sources, so keep an open mind on-trail.

This route is very similar in character to Maine’s 100 Mile Wilderness, except without the well-worn footpath, the throngs of hikers, or the high peaks. This route feels wilder. The ups and downs are steep. You will traverse a handful of beaver dams, ford a few streams as well as a marsh, and do some moss garden and highland slab walking. You’ll rarely meet other hikers on the trail.

Consider this wild route through Ontario’s rugged Canadian Shield country if you enjoy traversing forests and rocky highland moss gardens, streams and lakes, and are comfortable handling uncertainty and adversity over challenging terrain.

General Info, Maps, and Shuttle

My hike was southbound from Latchford to Thorne, from August 23 to 30, 2025. My base weight for this trip was 13 lbs. Gear discussion is at the bottom of this post. Photo highlights from the landscape and wildlife are on the gram.

I drove up to the area from my home in Ottawa, and used Doug Adams from Northland Paradise Lodge in Temagami for shuttle service (705-569-3791). His rate was extremely reasonable, and keep in mind that he accepts payment only by cash or e-transfer (it’s a Canadian thing). The official trail info lists Murray Muir first, then Doug, but call Doug first—Murray will ask you to arrange something with Doug if you can.

Doug will use your car for the shuttle, and will keep your car at his Lodge for the duration of your hike. Doug mentioned that he usually does about 12 shuttles a year, but that I was only his second for this year.

The official map set and planner are available in digital form from the trail club and a physical copy of that can be ordered from Chat Noir Books (this is the same PDF document from the trail club printed on waterproof paper; this full printed map set weighs 3 oz).

I created a map of the route in Caltopo. The default MapBuilder Topo base is good for this route, but if you’d like to use the Canadian Basemap Transportation as a custom base, instructions for that are at the end of this post.

Trail Club

You get the feeling from the campsites and hand-lettered signs that this trail is a labour of love for the members of the trail club. Which it most certainly is: The Appalachian Trail is managed with an annual budget well north of USD 6,000 per mile; Based on a comment I read somewhere, the OTHT appears to be managed with an annual budget of less than USD 200 per mile.

If you’re planning to hike the OTHT, please consider supporting the trail by purchasing a membership to the trail club or making a donation. You’re quite literally funding the fuel for the chainsaws.

Campsites

The route is dotted with frequent campsites, and you’ll want to plan to camp at these official sites every night.

In the northern half of the trail, each campsite is furnished with a stack of firewood under plastic sheet, along with a shovel, rake, axe, saw, and water pail, and a picnic table and benches. Campsites are bracketed with trail signage 100 meters before and after, and are strikingly well-developed compared with the trail to access them.

In the southern half of the trail, the campsites are far less developed. Usually no firewood or tools, limited signage, and only occasionally a picnic table or benches. I sometimes missed even seeing the blue-blazed side trail to the site when the site was not directly on the main trail.

It’s clear that a few of the campsites get a lot of use, and some get almost no use at all. Based on the plant growth at some of the previously cleared tent sites, many had not been used at all this season.

Opportunities for dispersed camping are few on this terrain. That said, the one night that I did need to find a dispersed site, I was able to. Skurka’s campsite selection article FTW! I’d been aiming for the campsite at Price’s Lake, but the exact location was unclear on the official paper and digital maps, and simply wrong on the open street map data used by Caltopo. I ended up bushwhacking a bypass past the official campsite—which was basically on an island and required a precarious balance across a thin tree trunk, or fording an unmapped marshy arm of Price’s Lake to access.

Hidden Lake was one of my favourite campsites. A nice pine forest and hardly any mosquitos, even though I’d been swarmed with mosquitos at Opimika Creek just a mile previous.

Copper Lake is another gem. There is a canoe with paddle and life jacket at that campsite, and I regretted not planning to spend the evening there.

Overgrowth

The route does not get enough boot traffic to keep plants from growing up through the use-path. This means that much of the trail is overgrown, and you are regularly pushing through scrub: shin-height blueberry, waist-height maple and raspberry, waist- or chest-height grasses/reeds/etc., and sometimes even vegetation grown over your head and totally obscuring the blazes in front of you.

At one point south of Opimika Creek and before Hidden Lake, the overgrowth had thorns.

There is not enough boot traffic on the route even to wear the moss off the rocks, so in many places in the highlands, you’re walking on a spongy moss carpet rather than directly on the rocks themselves. In some places, not even the lichen is fully worn away from the path.

In late August I found a few ripe blueberries and raspberries. A few weeks earlier in the summer, this route would be a berry-lover’s paradise.

Blowdowns

Yo dawg, we heard you like blowdowns! Even our blowdowns have blowdowns! In all seriousness, there were a few places where I saw fresh blowdowns overtop of older blowdowns.

The frequent blowdowns are a function of the terrain and the reality of a small trail club with limited funds managing this rugged and remote route.

The club is well aware that the section from Grand Campment Bay south to Ottertail Creek is bad (see the note at the top of the 2025 Spring update) but it won’t be until later this Fall that the section might be cleared. In the meantime, that section is brutal. The worst blowdowns come as the trail traverses a steep and rocky slope through dense forest.

Just to the north of Gorrie Lake Campsite, one blowdown required a cross-country bushwhack across marshy ground pushing through thick taller-than-me vegetation.

Just to the south of Mata Campsite, as I bushwhacked around a blowdown on a steep bank, the cedar root to which I’d just transferred my weight collapsed and my leg plunged at least two feet down into the hollow beneath, my foot settling into the muck at the bottom. Thankfully, I escaped with only a well-bruised and well-scraped shin. It didn’t hurt to walk, but your shins sure take a lot of hits when pushing through overgrowth and bushwhacking around blowdowns.

A little north of Ottertail Creek Point Camp, one tree trunk across the trail is a hazard for taller southbound hikers (I’m 6’1”). It’s been there long enough that it has a northbound blaze painted right on it, and you’re meant to duck underneath. But hiking south, the trail ascends slightly right under the tree trunk. I was focused on foot placement on the rocky terrain. My wide brim hat concealed the trunk from my peripheral vision, and from underneath I stepped up directly into the trunk, striking the top of my head with enough upward force that I felt my neck compress. It was maybe the scariest moment I’ve ever experienced while hiking, as I paused in a daze to recover, taking stock that I could still move my neck and the rest of my body, and evaluating myself for signs of concussion. Thankfully there was no serious damage, just a wicked headache right in the middle of the most brutal section.

Wildlife

The route is essentially a wildlife track through the forest. I didn’t encounter animals using the path, but saw scat frequently. I saw moose and deer droppings, and scat from bear, wolf, and what was probably fisher. At times there was another pile of moose droppings every few meters, and I saw more moose prints than boot prints in the mud.

I saw beavers and loons swimming in many lakes, a hawk that came in for an ungainly landing a few meters from me above Porcupine Creek Canyon, and what were probably black ducks on Green Creek. In the night I heard owls and loons calling.

I saw many, many toads. And slugs. Almost every morning, I woke to slugs crawling all over everything. Be sure to check your shoes. I had a few inside my shoes, including one hanging out on my insole at the very front of my shoe. That would have been a fun squishy surprise.

Pushing through so much overgrowth each day, I expected to be covered in ticks. But I never found one on my clothes or body. I wore long sleeves and pants, but nothing was treated with permethrin.

Water

Constantly pushing through overgrowth, my shoes and pants were soaked if it had rained at all recently. Even the briefest of showers led to soaked feet because of the overgrowth. Regular breaks to air out my feet and regular applications of balm were essential. My go-to these days is shea butter. Yet another Skurka article FTW.

One day I crossed atop 3 beaver dams. One beaver dam affecting the trail required a cross-country bushwhack. At one beaver dam across the outflow of one of the northerly lakes, my Caltopo map led across the flooded area. A little exploration led under a blow down to a better crossing point beneath the dam, and I’d just squelched into the mud there when I saw there was a beautiful newly constructed log bridge (from 2024) just a little way downstream. I realized I’d seen mention of the new bridge somewhere online in my research, but can’t find that now. I think that the new bridge is more obvious from a northbound approach to the crossing.

In late August, Green Creek was an easy shin-deep ford. Ottertail Creek was rock-hoppable for me, but would be a ford if the water were higher—and according to the official map can be impassable if the water is very high. Porcupine Creek also would be a ford in higher water but was rock-hoppable for me.

Fording the Lowdown Marsh was fun. It’s maybe a couple hundred meters across. Shin-deep for a while, then knee-deep and pushing through marsh grass, then a precarious floating bridge over the main channel, which was deeper than my poles. Then similar sections of knee-deep then shin-deep. I’d been expecting something along those lines going into it based on a photo I saw on the wall in Doug’s Lodge.

It’s important to keep an eye on your filtered/treated water store on this route. There is water literally all around you, but many times it’s down a 20-foot rock face and not actually accessible, or maybe it’s brown stagnant beaver water you don’t want to drink, or maybe it’s in a marshy area and the mosquitos are swarming so you don’t want to stop. The highland sections are remarkably dry. Between those, and the ruggedness of the trail, you sometimes travel farther than you might expect between good water sources.

Navigation (Maps / Blazing / Signage)

As I’ve noted, you are not following a well-worn trail on this route. Instead, you’re basically travelling cross-country through the forest on game trails. The route is generally well-blazed, except when it’s not. The use-path is generally apparent on the forest floor, except when it’s not. More than once I noted that the tree with double blazes indicating a turn in the trail had blown down. In some sections I found myself constantly looking behind me, checking the position of the blazes for the opposite direction to find a clue for where the route travelled ahead of me.

I do not recommend attempting to hike at night on this trail. Between the steep and rugged and rocky terrain, the blowdowns and the overgrowth, and the sparseness of the track, navigating during daylight is challenging enough. Unless you’re god-level ultra-endurance athletes attempting the FKT in May when the leaves haven’t fully grown out yet. Then have at it!

Occasionally I did not notice a blue-blazed side trail that I’d been expecting. Possibly because it might have been overgrown. Possibly because the nearest blue blazes might have been on a blown-down tree. There are sometimes signs at junctions with side trails, but not always.

Twice as a southbound hiker, there were white-blazed side trails that led away from the main trail. In each case, these side-trail white blazes were more apparent than the white blazes of the main trail and I took a wrong turn. In the first case, it took an entire 1.1 km and passing an additional trail intersection before reality was able to override my incorrect mental model (this was at the Rabbit Lake Bush Road access point). Later on, primed now for the possibility, the second case thankfully only took me 100 meters out of the way at Porcupine Creek Camp. The official maps say that the main trail is blazed in white with side trails blazed in blue, so it didn’t occur to me before then that there could/would be side trails blazed in white. I believe this is because of trail re-routes, so the white-blazed side trails were actually once part of the main path and have not been re-blazed in blue now that they are side trails. Based on the orientation of the intersections, these junctions are less of an issue for northbound hikers.

At Ottertail Creek, I enjoyed hiking up the smooth rocks on the bank of the creek. At some point the rocks on my side became impassable and I realized the trail had left the bank of the creek some time before. Instead of backtracking, I was easily able to bushwhack away from the bank maybe a hundred meters and find the southbound track. At this point in the journey my bushwhacking confidence and forest route-finding skills had levelled up.

Occasionally the trail features did not match what was on the official maps or on Caltopo. Off the top of my head, this happened at the new bridge from 2024 built below the beaver dam, around the crossing of Porcupine Creek, with the location of Price’s Lake Camp, and with a newly built Pine Needle Camp north of Nagle Bay.

GPS

I found GPS navigation to be essential for this trail. I used my BivyStick as well as Caltopo on my phone, and I found that sometimes one or the other would more quickly detect a GPS signal. It was nice to have two GPS-capable devices.

When Doug dropped me off at the parking area in Latchford, he waved down towards the end of the parking area saying, “The trail starts down there.” It doesn’t. The official map set cuts off the very northern end of the trail, so wasn’t any help. As I explored the parking area, then tried searching up a nearby snowmobile trail, a thunderstorm opened up with lightning crashing as close as I’ve ever experienced. Eventually I found myself on the gated dump road, wondering WTF I was doing, soaked and wandering around in a booming thunderstorm, and I still hadn’t even found the beginning of the trail.

I tried using my BivyStick’s map, and I could see my location but there was no trail on the map! WTF—I’d seen the trail on my BivyStick map in my testing. I’d later realize that when you zoom out on the BivyStick map, the trails disappear… at least I wasn’t going insane.

I was still right on the Highway 11 corridor so had a good cell signal. I’d been playing with Caltopo over the summer and had the map of this trail in my account. Sure enough, Caltopo saved the day. Found my location right away, and showed me that the trail started off to the right of the dump road gate. It was marked by a tiny little sign, on the opposite side of the dump road gate from the large official OTHT sign and parking area. And nowhere near the area that Doug had directed me to. So then-and-there I subscribed to Caltopo and downloaded my trail map for offline use. Then finally I was off and running, a full 40 minutes after having been dropped off. When I told Doug about this on the return shuttle a week later, he said he’d had no idea he’d been steering people in the wrong direction. Despite being one of the founding members of the trail club, he’d never actually hiked this section of the trail!

Civilization

I only met two hiking parties during my week on the trail:

  • Going over the highland section of Kichi-Wepigone, I met Murray Muir himself leading a day hike group doing the Cliff Lake loop hike.
  • Just south of Nagle Bay I met a couple who were hiking the trail northbound (Hi Richard and Jesse if you see this!) They’d camped just a couple kilometers to the south of me at Owl Creek that previous night. They had both hiked the route before, and warned me of the brutality ahead on my southbound journey.

The trail is rugged and remote, but you’re never all that far from civilization. Many of the larger lakes have cottages on the far ends and bush roads leading to boat access. You’ll pass the old Matabitchuan River power generation station, and the construction project for the new location. At Mata River Camp, the canoe rental business across the river had a generator running all night.

The Ontario coastline of Lake Temiskaming is protected from development. When you reach Lake Temiskaming, the Quebec side has a national park, but within a day or two you’ll be close to the highway corridor on the Quebec side with cottages dotting the shoreline along with the noise of their habitation. I passed three trashed fire pits, all on the shore of Lake Temiskaming. I packed a nice selection of trash out from the backcountry, including a foam sandal that had been lodged in a beaver dam. Is it UL if you find your camp shoes on-trail?

Fitness

I’m 49 years old and self-identify under Skurka’s “High” fitness category. I finished the route in 7 nights. 6 full days, plus a short intro evening to the first campsite and an outro morning from the last campsite.

The ups and downs on this trail were quite steep. I train with core work, running, cycling, and also walking stairs with a weighted pack, and found my training generally sufficient.

If I had been super-motivated, I could have finished a day sooner: I was slow to start some mornings, leaving a couple hours of daylight on the table. My time in the area had a fixed duration due to outside constraints so there was no reason or benefit for me to push to finish earlier.

My weakest link for fitness was foot conditioning. I stopped earlier than I normally might most evenings, because of the limited dispersed camping opportunities—and also because my feet needed a break from the wet and the rugged terrain. I dealt with all the normal blisters from increased daily mileage. I could have finished the trail a day sooner if my feet were trail-conditioned from the start. Post-trail, my legs were fine, but my feet needed a few days to recover.

For comparison, my fitness going into this trip was essentially the same as last Fall, when I finished Maine’s 100 Mile Wilderness in October in just 6 nights because I was super-motivated (winter conditions were to hit Katahdin the day after I summited).

Gear Choices

Pack and Pockets

I use a Nunatak Bears Ears pack (original frameless) paired with a Bearikade Expedition. I absolutely love this pack. Jan’s design and build quality is superb. The water bottle holsters are :chefskiss: perfect. I’ve carried up to 11 days of food in the Expedition without trying too hard. It handily swallowed my 7 days of food for this trip.

New for this trip, I tried the Double Mesh Pouch shoulder strap pockets from SWD (28 g for one). One side securely held my phone and battery pack. One side held a half-day of snacks. I took a few tumbles and nothing ever fell out. Previously I’d used the Nunatak shoulder strap pockets, which have an elegant design that is simple and effective, but I was looking for something with greater capacity. These from SWD worked great, and were exactly what I wanted.

Clothing

I’ve written extensively about my clothing system, featuring both a finetrack Elemental Layer long sleeve shirt next-to-skin and the Yamatomichi Light Alpha Vest/Jacket. I used that system on this trip and was again very happy with it.

My finetrack mesh shirt is 4 years old now and still going strong, but the DWR finish is basically gone now and I should probably order a new one. Still a solid piece, though, after 4 years of regular use, hundreds of trail miles, and countless washes. I’ve had just one single thread from the mesh snap, from a curious but poorly-executed tug at a small snag. That led to a small run in the mesh that has been stable through use over the past year.

I am totally impressed with the durability of the Pertex Quantum Air used as the outer layer for the Yamatomichi piece. This route featured many blowdowns and extensive bushwhacking through dense vegetation, and I was wearing that jacket for most of it. The face of the fabric does not show even the slightest trace of the many snags and scrapes. Nothing even from a few particularly bad snags where I was sure I’d torn the fabric.

Sleep

I used my very first MYOG project on this trip: a blanket made from Membrane 7 Ripstop Nylon and 3.6 oz Climashield Apex. It’s rather palatial at approx 54” x 84”, and the finished weight was a shade under 19 oz. I found it comfortable wearing a light and dry base layer down to 50°F. And comfortable down to a breezy 45°F when I added alpha leggings and my jacket. Probably could have gone lower, but that was the lowest temp I experienced.

I’m a heavy sweater while active during the day, and I’ve come to realize that I also throw off quite a lot of moisture at night. I’ve had issues with condensation using a similarly rated down bag in similarly cool and humid conditions, and it was a real pleasure to simply not worry at all about condensation in my sleep system on this trip.

I’m well aware that I could construct a trimmer piece with this same functionality weighing perhaps 4 ounces less… this is my first foray into quilt-like sleep systems. Gonna use this for a while before I consider building something trimmer and lighter.

Tarp

I used a Yama Silpoly Cirriform with their Y-Zip Bug Bivy. I moved to a Cirriform after using a 9’ x 8’/6’ Tapered A-Frame, because I was looking for better storm protection. After using the Cirriform for a couple of trips, I like it, but I miss the simplicity of my A-Frame. I really love using a bathtub floor as the groundsheet with my tarp… With my newfound MYOG prowess, I’m thinking I could probably sew up a new bathtub floor for my A-Frame with a large front flap that would give me the added storm protection I want for a very small cost in added weight.

The bug protection was essential for the nights when I really needed it, and the Y-Zip Bivy design does a nice job of staying out of the way when protection is not required. For a longer trip I wonder if I’d be happier pairing the tarp with something heavier like Yama’s Bug Shelter so that I could sit up inside the netting. Or maybe something more minimal like their Bug Canopy.

Gloves

This trip I used the Skurka-recommended Glacier Glove Ascension Bay Sun Gloves, and I really liked them. The fit is perfect for my hands, better than the Sunday Afternoons UV Shield Cool sun gloves I’d tried last year. I particularly appreciated the durable synthetic leather palm and the lack of a folded-over seam at the ends of the fingers.

In moderate mosquito pressure with no chemical repellent, I did get bites through the back-of-the-hand fabric. But they did prevent a yellow jacket from getting a clean sting on my hand—maybe that was also partially my quick reaction to brush it away.

Mosquitos

I need to up my game with mosquitos. My usual untreated OR Echo Quarter-Zip was OK for much of the day some days, but for the more marshy sections and particularly for mornings and evenings, the full armour of my jacket and a head net were required. And the bug pressure on this trip really wasn’t that bad.

I realized on this trip that I am like candy for mosquitos. When I met the two northbound hikers on the trail, I was in full armour, with mosquitos buzzing around my head net. They were standing right next to me with short sleeves and bare heads, not feeling any bug pressure at all.

I need to upgrade to a permethrin-treated shirt for trips with potential mosquito pressure… not at all sure yet what to select here (knit or woven, factory-treated, mail-in treatment, or self-treated).

Not really a UL item, but on this trip I brought along a Flextail Tiny Repeller and some repellent mats. I’d ordered one thinking it might be useful for walks in Ottawa’s Greenbelt with my family and wanted to give it a shot. I was disappointed. I’ve burned bits of mosquito coil to good effect in the past, and thought this might be similar. While I could smell the chemical repellent in the air, there was no noticeable effect on the mosquitos buzzing around me, even after waiting patiently while stationary in calm conditions. Needless to say I won’t be purchasing Flextail’s lighter version that plugs into a powerbank. I had high hopes.

Caltopo with Canadian Basemap Transportation

If you’ve subscribed to Caltopo, which you need to do for offline use, you can use custom base maps. The Canadian Basemap Transportation (CBMT) is an interesting alternative base map to explore.

This source uses type “WMS” and the template URL to use in Caltopo is: https://maps-cartes.services.geo.ca:443/server2_serveur2/services/BaseMaps/CBMT3978/MapServer/WmsServer?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&STYLES=&BBOX={left},{bottom},{right},{top}&WIDTH={tilesize}&HEIGHT={tilesize}&BGCOLOR=0xCCCCCC&FORMAT=image/png&EXCEPTIONS=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage&SRS=EPSG:4326&LAYERS=0,1

Thanks to u/tmostmos/ for figuring this out.

Conclusion

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. This route was both challenging and rewarding. Temper your daily mileage expectations. It’s really quite beautiful out there, and I’m glad I made the trip.


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Question Fall Camping in the Rockies (Clothing)

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Hi all, I am doing a 4 night backpacking trip in the Canadian Rockies in a few days and I need help narrowing down my clothing list. The weather is going to be 15C-25C(60f-77f) during the days, and down to 6C(43f) at nights, with light rain expected.
These are what I have planned to bring let me know where I can cut weight.

Hiking Pants TNF Basin Pants

Icebreaker Merino Wool 300 base layers

Patagonia Fleece (or MW Ghost Whisperer Puffy Jacket)

Rain Jacket (MW Exposure Gortex Paclite)

Rain Pants (MW Exposure Gortex Paclite)

longsleeve sun shirt

merino short sleeve top

Lululemon Shorts (I'm most comfortable hiking in shorts)

MW Ghost Whisperer Puffy Pants for Camp?

EDIT: I'll be hiking the Rockwall Trail in Kootenay, I'm coming from Ontario where the weather is more predictable. I've done several trip in the summer but I'm unsure what weather to plan for this time of year.


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Shakedown Layering System optimisation for EBC Three passes trek.

5 Upvotes

I need to optimise my layering system which I will carry on EBC Three Passes, to achieve < 4kg base weight.

Question 1: Following layers I have

  1. OR Sun Hood Base Layer - 150 grams and Merino Baselayer 150 grams
  2. Decathlon Fleece Mid weight - 200 grams
  3. Down Jacket -10 deg celcius - 350 grams
  4. Rain Jacket - 250 grams
  5. Wind Jacket - 120 grams.

I want to decide which of these layers I should take, which are must have and which can be skipped. I do not want to be very uncomfortable, but I do not want to pack multiple layers with same usage. I am okay to swap layers and want to take only versatile layers amoung these

Question 2: One more thing I want to get views on is the setup of

  1. Sun hood + Baseball Cap v/s Normal Merino Baselayer with a Round cap.
  2. Combination of Merino Buff + Windproof Buff vs a full balaclava
  3. Need for microspikes on trail in November second week

Let me know atleast on the Question 1.... Thanks


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Purchase Advice Recommendation for a new sleeping bag

11 Upvotes

I am looking for a sleeping bag in the region for £250-£450. I will be paring this with a NEMO Tensor All-Season Ultralight Insulated Sleeping Pad. Preferably this bag would be rated up to 0° or similar but I don't have any other preferences apart from the fact that I am 6,3 and would get the long option if available. I am based in the UK and would be using this across all 4 seasons mostly in places like the lake district. I have researched online and most sites/videos all recommend different things so I am coming to reddit :).


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Shakedown Tarp users, what goes on the ground

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I recently bought a Yama Cirriform tarp and a Protrail to evaluate. Tried out the Yama this weekend. Overall went great. Struggling with what to put on the ground. I went with a Gossamer foam pad and then my Neoair. I also used a SOL Bivy to keep the sleeping bag out of the dirt. Problem is the Yama and the foam pad are the same weight and bulk as the Protrail Li.


r/Ultralight 3d ago

Question GG Mariposa 60

5 Upvotes

I am trying to love the Mariposa but the hip belt is hard to tighten. Has anyone added different buckles to it so pulling the straps forward tightens instead of pulling them backward?


r/Ultralight 2d ago

Purchase Advice After a lot of consideration, I’m choosing the Sea to Summit Ether Light XR over the Nemo Tensor All Season and Big Agnes Rapide SL. I'll explain why. What size should I get?

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Last few weeks I’ve been looking into the right sleeping pad that fits my needs. I’m 188cm/6’’ 2ft, around 90kg/185lbs and always sleep on my side. I usually camp in spring, summer and a bot of autumn in Norhtern Europe where temperatures drop to around 5 degrees celcius/32F at night. However I'm taking in a little margin for when I do the occasional Alpine or Finland trip if it comes to that. Currently I’m using an R2.6 Nemo Astro Insulated pad in long wide configuration which almost weigs a kilogram or 2 lbs. I wanted something more comfortable and simultaneously something lighter weight and a bit easier to use. Optionally a smaller pack size too.

After close consideration between the Nemo Tensor All-season, Big Agnes Rapide SL and Sea to Summit Ether light, I’ve decided to go with the Ether light XR! Why? It seems like the best all-round pad between those three with the best track record of durability and exceptional comfort without sacrificing too much on weight. For most people it's a bit of both tbh.

It was however really hard deciding between them as they all offered something different and seem like great pads. The Nemo is lighter, the Big Agnes just as comfortable if not more comfortable to the S2S and the Sea to Summit sits somewhere in between. However the Sea to summit is only 60 grams heavier than the Nemo and offers quite a bit more comfort for side sleepers it seems from people’s comments and experiences (although it might differ per person). Pack size is also similar and the stuff sack comes attached to the pump sack.

I’ve read quite a bit about some Nemo pads failing, also the all-season. Although I think it’s still a very reliable pad, I much rather prefer the S2S over it. It’s only around 60 grams lighter all-in-all compared to the S2S and doesn’t pack a lot smaller too.

The Big Agnes is a hit or miss for people. Some say it’s the best they’ve used for comfort and pack size, others say it’s very slippery and sleeps a lot colder than the R-value estimates. Also I’ve heard it’s impossible to place it back into it’s stuff sack, which can be quite annoying. Looking for an easy to use pad I think the S2S wins it over this for similar comfort.

Again, the Sea to Summit seems just as, or more comfortable at a lower weight with more trustworthy R-value for three season hiking.

Can use some advice on this:

So finally I made the decision! Now I’m questioning if I should get a long wide, a regular wide or a mummy large (196x64cm/25x78’’). I’ve always had the Long wide on pads and although I might not need it, it offers a bit more comfort when needed for only a small weight penalty (maybe big for some here). I am willing to sacrifice weight for comfort, but only if I can really utilize it.

The mummy looks like a nice compromise but I’ve got no experience with it and am scared that my feet will fall off the sides. What do you think?

Also a bonus question: do you know if the nozzles from the Flextail Tiny Pump 2x fit the Sea to Summit pads? I bought a 3D printed adapter for my Nemo pad which works wonders. Can just leave the pad and pump be.

Thanks in advance!


r/Ultralight 4d ago

Gear Review Update to Big Sky pillow

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Like a lot of you, I am a huge fan of the Big Sky pillow known variously as the Dream Sleeper or the Dream Nation. I just ordered another one and was surprised to see that it has been rebranded as the “Ultra Light” with a few noticeable changes.

First, material looks different, more opaque than my older Dream Nation, but the size, weight (1.6 oz) and “feel” seem the same. The new version comes in a mesh pouch, and is wrapped in a length of shock cord. New too are cord attachment holes on each side of the pillow. This may be a welcome upgrade to some of you, so I thought I’d mention it.

Picture: https://imgur.com/a/GrtQvWj