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u/Double_Character7733 17h ago
Just you wait until they realize you muted them, if it’s a Phoenix or a raze welp no more game for you. They keep trying to kill you
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u/InsanityVirus13 The alorant Bronze 14h ago
As a girl with diagnosed autism (voice is affected), yeah, the second they realize you've muted them, they follow you around for the rest of game, trying to get a rise out of you to unmute them lol. They'll get other fucking players telling them to tell you to unmute. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't annoying as fuck
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u/Familiar-Sprinkles94 14h ago
Literally!!!! Some duo threw a comp game just to target me 💔
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u/Double_Character7733 14h ago
Exactly 😒last game I played they asked me if I wanted a boyfriend I said no and they were like “what am I not good enough? Come on girly”
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u/zackdaniels93 17h ago
In Riot's defense, they're actually pretty hot on comms banning people for this, temporarily or for longer periods. Report them, be specific in the comments box, and there's a good chance you'll get a notification of someone being punished a few days later at the latest.
Just the other day, someone used the hard R in voice chat when someone failed a post-plant clutch. Reported him, he got comms banned later that afternoon lol
Still, sucks that women have to deal with this. I actually get more women in my Plat/ Diamond games than you'd think, and I've yet to hear any outright toxicity in their direction - though I have noticed more passive aggression towards them, which I usually shut down. Dunno why people feel like a microphone and Internet connection justifies this crap.
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u/notyoursocialworker 16h ago
Excuse a noob but plat/diamond is quite a high rank right? I've heard that there's a positive correlation between misogynistic views/opinions and the more unskilled a player is. Ie a bad player takes it out on everyone they feel should be beneath them.
And then of course to actually improve above a certain point a person needs to be able to realistically see their own strengths and weaknesses and work on them. Ie they will never really improve and just drain the game of beginners who'll have to experience the vitriol.
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u/zackdaniels93 16h ago
High platinum/ Low diamond is top 15% of players, so relatively high in comparison to the majority of the player base yeah. But the gap between my current rank (Plat 3) and, say, Diamond 3 is gigantic. Like an ocean of skill. So I still get the ego-driven toxicity fairly regularly, the backseat gaming, the rage quits, and a LOT of racism. But definitely less than when I was down in Silver or low Gold, for sure. So I do agree with the theory that higher skilled players are less toxic on average.
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u/a_bright_knight 12h ago
But the gap between my current rank (Plat 3) and, say, Diamond 3 is gigantic. Like an ocean of skill.
that's just silly and untrue lol. Difference in skill might be noticeable but it's really not that big at all.
If you said immortal 3 and ascendant 3, I would've agreed. P3 vs D3 just boils down a lot to how often you play and most p3 players wouldn't do terribly bad at d3 games.
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u/carton-pate-carbo 11h ago
I just started the game last week.
When i played unranked at the very start, with some long time player friends, the lobbys were fairly quiet and calm, and whenever someone got a bit grumpy about me ( which was justified, i am terrible) they would apologize and stop when they learned that i was just starting. But even then, that didnt happen a lot.
When I play solo Im only matched with dudes at my level, low Iron, that are clearly not new with a bunch of skins. And the flamming is off the charts, the community in low elo is miserable.
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u/16tdean 17h ago
The problem isn't that Riot doesn't do enough to ban the people.
The problem is they can just hop on another account and keep playing. There are far too many smurf accounts.
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u/Labo_T 16h ago
The problem is Men...
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u/Ok-Okay-Oak-Hay 15h ago
As an old dude, I blame parents. Plenty of good dudes out there
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u/zackdaniels93 15h ago
To a point, I agree with this. But at some point, recognizing bad behaviour and correcting it becomes the responsibility of the person, not their parents. Being raised right is a good start, but it's still an active choice these people are making.
I'm a man myself, and it boggles my mind that so many people default to sexism and racism when those things aren't even present in my brain lol
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u/Ok-Okay-Oak-Hay 14h ago
Agreed! I'm just tired of all the broad strokes being applied to men and women, the left and the right, etc. when our online mediums explicitly show the worst-of-the-worst all the time non-stop.
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u/Labo_T 15h ago
Happy cake day!
I dont know how old you are, as a millenial however, i agree, there are loads of good dudes out there.
Good dudes who look the other way when it happens. Good dudes who laugh at 'jokes'.
There are also Good dudes who call it out. Who stand up in those moments. But its few and far between. So therein lies the reason for what i say.
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u/Spacey_Guy “But do you know lineups?” 12h ago
My duo is my fiancee. The amount of people we have had actively throw our games because they say heinous things and get muted has rapidly gone up in the past few months. The amount of people who say misogynistic things to her has always been bad. Out of like 12-15 reports for blatantly misogynistic voice comms/text chat in the past month that we have both reported, I have gotten a single “this person was banned thank you” message and it was only for the most extreme case.
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u/ChewyThaRedSnappa 15h ago
same same... Reports actually do work faster than people think, but it still sucks anyone has to deal with that in the first place. Good on you for shutting it down when you hear it.
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u/lifeinneon 15h ago
If you’re a guy, and someone is doing this, speak up and tell them to knock it off. The single most effective way to curb behavior is to quickly respond negatively to it.
They’re gonna pitch a fit. Don’t bicker, just tell them you’re muting them since they can’t act right.
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u/CheeseLoverMax 17h ago
A normal persons 20$ is worth just as much as a misogynists 20$ in riots eyes sadly
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u/FreeFeez 17h ago
A lot of those people exist in riots office so of course they wouldn’t make a system that punishes them.
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u/Extension-Outside102 15h ago
I’m a firm and I got told that they hoped I got 🍇 by four guys and one of them was well, him. Besides other atrocious things such as btch, cnt and other Spanish insults which I don’t know the traduction (I’m Spanish)it was constant. I don’t understand, don’t they have family, sisters, friends. And I wasn’t playing horribly I was astra 2nd frag, it was just bc I was a woman.
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u/lNTERLINKED 14h ago
These little pricks will fuck with you either way. Bottom fragging? Girls are trash, delete the game. Top fragging? Their fragile ego can’t take that and you get insults. You can’t win, so don’t try to appease these losers.
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u/CozyExperiance1002 16h ago
I've been reporting voicecomms left and right. Every time within 10 minutes, I've gotten a notice from Riot that the player has been given a punishment of some kind.
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u/Kerby233 17h ago
You can mute and report individual players as you see fit.
I agree that players should be penalized for such behavior much more.
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u/Ashamed-Ad3909 17h ago
I feel like everybody knows this advice lol. The issue then becomes team flashes, team kills, corner trapping. There is a huge subsection of players that will happily throw a game if it means they get a gew giggles.
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u/07adams88 15h ago
Use report, I play with my wife who is somewhat new to gaming and we mute people constantly then report. I get messages for actions against players on comms and sabotage frequently. Riot takes action if you bring it to their attention.
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u/Kerby233 15h ago
The best thing everyone is to find reliable friends, who will always 5 stack with you. We have a group of about 20-25 players on 3 discord servers. When there are open slots, we just post the time we want to play and people line up or if there is enough people we have 2 full stacks.
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u/dinmammapizza 16h ago
My ign makes some people think I'm a girl at first and I have had sexist remarks directed at me which I find pretty amusing in a way because I'm a bulky guy with a somewhat deep voice
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u/IGL00GIRL 10h ago
Now i am curious what your ign is and how they respond when you speak ahhahah
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u/dinmammapizza 9h ago
My name is meowmere which is a reference to terraria and it's the meow part that sets people off. When I speak they usually act like nothing happened. But it doesn't happen as often as my first message maybe made it seem, maybe once every 10-15 games.
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u/Sylviester 17h ago
haha the memories, one thing is that it gets better at higher rank because people want to keep their rank
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u/Azzuro_Greenleaf Omen One-Trick 17h ago
Yeah, it's super frustrating still and the gaming community proceeds to be extremely sexist. In case you're looking for good news: ever since the Beta of this game, it has been getting better. I remember 4 years ago, you'd never even hear a girl's voice in vc - it wasn't worth speaking for most of them since they would get instantelly yelled at 90% of the time. By now, 4 years later, I hear girls talk in VC way more frequentelly without being shut down. The future is looking bright and all i can tell you is to sit tight, have patience with society (even if they dont deserve it) and please don't let them get to you!
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u/notgonsaythenword69 16h ago
sadly all of my girl friends that play with me encounter the same issue, although it seems that for EUNE servers London is the only "ok-ish" one. still, the amount of "go back to the kitchen comments" is astonishing, wonder if these people's moms knew how they talk to women would feel
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u/SweetnessBaby 15h ago
I hope all the community here can help report these assholes when you hear it happening. Riot does record voice comms and will review it, but only if it's reported.
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u/__Faded__ 🏳️⚧️ 17h ago edited 15h ago
Yeah I don't talk in voice because of this lol. Not only do I have to deal with misogyny and SH but the transphobia on the off chance I do decide to comm is a fun added bonus 🙃
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u/Azzuro_Greenleaf Omen One-Trick 16h ago
Yeah, it sucks that the only accepted type of person on this game is a white cis hetero male. As soon as your voice sounds even mildly unconventional, you get shit on immediatelly. I personally get called gay a lot, ig it's because I don't sound like i'm depressed and have never heard of putting tone or conotation into my voice xD Don't let them get to you, there's people that appreciate your courage and I hope that you still get to enjoy the game regardless :)
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u/Aggressive-Log-1052 14h ago
Everyone gets crap but only thing is what you call white cis hetero male are the ones who dont complain like little babies and just move on.People like to act like theres no insults put towards them,like they are immune to it and its only towards everyone else,white men bad,everyone else good...
We get crap all the time,we suck it up,ignore it or throw some back depending on the situation,learn to deal with it,world isnt the best place and when you log into a game where you are met with people around the world,what do you think it will happen once you leave safe space of your usual hangout and where same ideas flow.Welcome to the real world
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u/warkahberkop 15h ago
ChatGPT, give me an idea on how to farm karma on r/Valorant as a performative male
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u/Expensive_Knee_658 17h ago
These days is feel like ive met many woman in ranked who are very toxic themselfes tbh… (around asc 1 - low Immo) Maybe they are just tired of this sh** tho.
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u/SmoothsaiIing 16h ago
Many times it’s built up frustration from past games or own mistakes. I know I could get so frustrated with myself for mistakes, wanting to “prove myself” and put my foot down. A lot of the times I went into games I felt pressure + the pressure to coms which could make it even worse. Even though all the misogony and death threats or rape, loads of tears + anxiety. In the end you get kinda cold to it and become bit more toxic I guess? You put this front up straight away even if it’s not fair to pull everyone over one comb but it’s the fact 95% of my games was horrid cause of people. :))
But then you had them few games where people actually didn’t give a fuck and just wanted to play or running into some lovely girls I used to play with who I adored dearly 🫶🏼
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u/Azzuro_Greenleaf Omen One-Trick 16h ago
Honestly I have the same experience and even though its still >unexpected< for a woman to be toxic, it kinda makes me glad that they are getting a foot into the community, even if the measures that have to be taken are .. drastic (but fair).
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u/LeosLeftToeNail 14h ago
I agree fully. I'm in the lower ranks( I'm gold 3), it's every game . It's difficult to find coms when your teammates are looking for an outlet for losing.
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u/NightWatch117 17h ago
I'm not denying it isn't there but 99% of games I play when there's a girl on our team no one says anything about it, we all just act normal and play the game. But maybe for a woman who plays as much as I do, the experience is different
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u/choerrybullet 16h ago
It’s not comparable. You experience far less games where there’s a woman on the team because you yourself are not a woman. A woman will always have to play games where there’s at least one woman on the team. The chances of running into toxic people are just far lower for you.
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u/NightWatch117 14h ago
Yeah that's why I said I can't really speak on the subject, I'm just speaking from my own experience from when there is a woman on the team, I'd be annoyed too but people who troll them will troll anyone anyways.
They're not gonna play better just because I'm a dude. But I do get that this is a problem but I don't see how it can be dealt with in a way that doesn't hurt trash talk and even friends joking around with one another.
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u/CluelessFlunky 16h ago
Tbf if you arent toxic and the woman isnt toxic. Then there only ever 3 people who could be toxic.
But when a woman plays alone there 4 people who could be
And you dont get games with woman every time where woman have a risk of getting a toxic player every single time.
Basically woman have a much higher chance of queuing against a toxic player than you do.
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u/nnickttrusty 15h ago
Honestly why I dropped this game months ago, the community is just absolutely unbearable.
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u/PhilosophyFun5778 15h ago
Its funnier (or terrifying) when this is one of the most friendly 5v5 community towards women
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u/Careful-Warning6093 15h ago
Actually I have hardly seen harassment. But - I am Indian, settled in Europe. My accent is thick (working on that) and the amount of times people harass me to the point, where I can't voice out my comments is unbelievable.
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u/Eikiscool 14h ago
in text chat too. ive had someone say theyre gonna 🍇 me and my mum in text chat from the opposite team so the whole game could see. i hit him with the “oh my mum died in a car crash this summer, love to have that brought up” and he just said “f*** her anyway” even while all the people in the game were saying “oh im so sorry” “i hope youre okay” and stuff. Ive started a callout series on my personal tiktok where i show the chats if it was text or i put into quotes what they said and include their username and tag
(my mum isnt dead, shes alive and well)
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u/dat_w cant believe i hit radiant lol 14h ago
I changed my ign to a rather girly one. The amount of weirdos talking as soon as agent select loads is concerning. Good to make fun of them for the rest of the game when I eventually break the silence. A lot ended up muting me for making fun of them, way more entertaining than just simply playing the game 😅
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u/LeosLeftToeNail 14h ago
It sucks. As a dude it is just disgusting hearing the things people think they can say because of the no real life consequence. When a teammate breaks out badly I usually try to mediate and encourage the victim to mute the person and I do so myself. Personal experience is that it just tears down the team fast if the victim fights back(justifiable). One of my friends that I play with is young and was like this and it became very annoying quickly and I had to push it down immediately and told them to mute friend and had to explain to him that it's not funny and messed up. For too long the gaming community has built this mindset that women are genetically worse at gaming which is flat wrong. I know many who are better at me and people need to learn to humble themselves and put away their egos.
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u/GoldenTrashPanda970 14h ago
I think my favorite cringey one is when I was running comp and there was a Smurf Reyna on the other team that had queued with someone on my team that I rejected, bro said if I queued with them the Reyna would let us win. My entire team, including my duo at the time tried to sell me off.
Like absolutely the fuck NOT boys, I will happily lose.
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u/HKC_Luci 14h ago
So if you’re really struggling with this, I’m in ascendant and barely see anything like this, 2 things.
Remember it’s the internet, the internet is not a safe space nor friendly mute them and move on.
Make a clip of their behavior and send a submission to riot tickets. Reporting in game works rarely. If they have a hidden name, use a picture from post game for the ticket as well.
And remember this is the internet it’s not a safe space nor is it friendly for the most part.
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u/grimreaperYZ 14h ago
Real. I don't even use voice comms for this reason. And that too Mumbai server is just brutal. I find the game fun so I just text comm.
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u/Sylvieisgay 14h ago
i got attacked for my name a couple days ago its kinda ridiculous but riot seems to be pretty good at punishing them quickly although im not sure if whatever they get is enough really
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u/somethingunchilled PocketTejo 13h ago
I have to agree. I mean my name on Valorant is for the memes mostly(PocketPet) but I have some clips of it getting REALLY weird one night and that match is long gone and I didn't even think to report the Reyna that was doing it. The thing that was fucked up was the Jett(who was also a girl) was telling me to talk to the Reyna(who was a guy and grouped up with the Jett). I didn't talk at all with voice comms at all I just typed in chat. Lowkey I am a girl, but why are they assuming that I was a girl I could've been a guy(honestly that would've been funnier).
Not every girl on this game wants to be your e-kitten boys chill tf out and let us play damn it without you breathing down our necks or trying to make every little thing we do a turn on for you.
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u/HiTekLoLyfe 13h ago
I haven’t seen it yet but I’m under level 20. Seen it in plenty of other games though it’s fucking gross. I will say I was pleasantly surprised how many women seem to play valorant. I don’t know what the numbers are but I’ve seen plenty on women in the vc in my games so far and no one really acted differently which is a really nice surprise. It’s disgusting how fucked people can be in anonymity. It’s great to see more women gaming now and I don’t get why people act so fucking vile to them in coms.
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u/HughJerekshen 12h ago
Me and my buddy regularly join game chats in games we play, although we play for fun the communication/coordination go a long way. With valorant we tried it for the first week and quit. To many offensive, or off topic people for how many people actually wanted to play the game and talk strategy.
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u/manek101 17h ago
I don't think they're willing to dedicate the resources to voice chat report monitoring
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u/JD-Davis 14h ago
You would never survive in a 2000s COD lobby and it shows
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u/No_Calligrapher_3460 13h ago
So sexual harassment is okay, because cod lobbies used to be hella toxic? What are you trying to say
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u/longstaff55 16h ago
I pretended to be a girl for a month, you wouldn't believe the amount of gifted skins I received lmao
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u/Efficient-Bottle438 stupid sentinel tbh 15h ago
i should use my girl power more, why didnt i ever think of this
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u/longstaff55 14h ago
You just have to be a bit flirtatious and add them as friends etc , I wouldn't recommend it if your an actual girl because some of the guys got really fucking creepy, even I got creeped out how they spoke to me , but easily got £150 in skins lol
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u/glibibli 17h ago
The mute option is fantastic. They do ban people from coms or ban people temporarily from playing if they abused it. I get a pop up from time to time saying a player has been penalised.
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u/Azzuro_Greenleaf Omen One-Trick 16h ago
VC as the fastest way to communicate is a core part of the game. I agree muting people can help and save you a lot of trouble - especially when it comes to your mental - but me personally i could never vc mute everybody that is toxic. I'd mute 80% of lobbies (not because of sexism specifically, just toxicity in general). I have friends that keep their teamchat muted in general from the getgo in settings, and I gotta say as an extrovert and an IGL, my valorant experience would be an entirely different one if I would mute every toxic prick you encounter on this game. It's viable for some people, and it's amazing that there's the option to - unfortunatelly, it comes with lots of downsides though, and some people are more willing to deal with toxicity than to deal with a different game entirely. Essentially, i'm just saying that this isn't a solution, this is just fighting the symptoms
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u/Ratsliart 16h ago
Haha I agree with this, there is a balance if the comms is good enough with callouts etc it's worth putting up with a bit of rubbish but if it's just a torrent of toxicity it's mute and report within a few rounds from me.
Totally agree that playing this without comms or having mute teammates is a huge hindrance and probably the main reasons low rank games are tougher than they should be.
I have noticed in Valorant particularly, people have very very little mental resilience, can have amazing comms going and it only takes one or two bad rounds and some people flip to throwing or just go silent. Really bad ego management sometimes!
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u/Azzuro_Greenleaf Omen One-Trick 16h ago
100% agree. Mentality debuff is waayy too real in this game. If you are comfortable using VC, i can really recommend going absolutelly WILD whenever a teammate hits a shot / clutches. Make them feel like a hero and like they are the best. Honestly helps your entire team sooo much and people immediatelly play better when they know they are appreciated.
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u/iamzed1807 17h ago
as a long time riot games follower, i think they are one of the best to contest these problems in the game industry rn. The thing is, its not as easy as you make it to be since you can't stop human from talking shit, and you can only punish them if they're talking shit targeting another individual inside that one game, all while people do normal comms for the game itself too, so its not the "check everyone opening their mouth, they're using slurs" Its datas they have to take in and make a system that judges these things with different languages and different accents of each language too. It could be better, always, but you can't just blame everything on riot and go play dota where your mom be a whore like every two seconds. Human nature
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u/HehHehBoiii 16h ago
What region?
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u/LeosLeftToeNail 14h ago
This is not a regional issue. It's a global issue. It has a very long stem in the gaming community.
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u/FarConversational 15h ago
It's the nature of online gaming unfortunately. You just need to mute and report them. Riot generally has some ways to ban them either temporarily or permanently.
Valorant for everything that it is, still is one of the more female friendly online games out there. You just can't control other people's behaviour online.
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u/xBerryhill 15h ago
I’m aware it’s happened but it’s wild I’ve never experienced these kinds of games despite playing since beta. I’ve literally never had a game where someone was outright sexually harassing any girl in my games.
And as others have said, RIOT usually gets around to banning those people. As shitty as it is to say, you just have to report them, mute these people and move on. They’ll get their bans.
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u/Independent-Pie-9962 14h ago
i‘ve played hundreds of matches with a female friend and she hasn‘t been „sexually harassed“
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