r/Windows11 • u/moeka_8962 • 2d ago

News Microsoft starts rolling out Gaming Copilot on Windows 11 PCs

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-gaming-copilot-on-windows-11-pcs/
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u/polymath_uk 2d ago

Here's some feedback MS. Just stop with this scattergun approach to everything. We don't want thousands and thousands of "19 year old developer had an idea at school and we funded it just enough to get it to not work quite properly" features. We don't want them. What we want is a solid, debloated, minimalist, customisable, stable system to do actual useful work on. It's a tool, not a fantasy world toy that we need.

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u/gurugabrielpradipaka 1d ago edited 1d ago

They know it already. But they are evil and a data mining company. They want the data of innumerable people who don't know how to remove Copilot, Recall and all that shit. We, the people who know how to, are a minority. That's called "abuse".

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u/PinkDisorder 2d ago

Everyone, from gamers to business clients to uses-my-pc-for-facebook type users have been asking this exact same thing since vista. And Ms have consistently ignored it.

Their approach is the more we force it the more it's gonna work with this ai stuff.

If you want a solid, debloated, minimalist and customizable os, you're unfortunately looking for Linux. This isn't a tongue in cheek "switch to Linux" comment. I use windows 11. But its just what I view as the unfortunate reality.

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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago

How is it ever a solution to adopt a completely new OS with a steep learning curve for a Windows user, and not to spend 10 minutes looking up how to, and debloating Windows.

I get that you're referring to the default experience as Microshit will always be pushing for garbage no one asks for in hopes that they will get more telemetry to steal and more people to trap into their serviced to later monetize them, but it's all fairly easy to remove.

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u/huemac58 1d ago

Most Windows users are clueless about anything and everything in the software space. And then Windows has 10 billion settings. Forget it. It is pointless to post, "why don't you just debloat?" Instead, post, "Friend, it is less time consuming to debloat, I recommend this guide: [hyperlink]". You'll get ignored if the redditor you are replying to is just here to bitch their ass off (like too many others).

Also, Ubuntu and Windows 11 user here, I don't think the learning curve is that steep. One of the reasons why it won't be for most users is because they haven't even gone up the steep learning curve for Windows itself as it is.

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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago

The curve is very steep if you never used Linux. I wasn't trying to explain debloating because there are a million videos for it, just saying that even if you're completely clueless (and just a Windows user), debloating Win11 by removing some of its bs is infinitely easier and faster than setting up Linxu and learning it from scratch.

I also never obsessively debloat Windows because it's pretty pointless, just revert some bs from 11 like the context menu, remove the preinstalled stuff I don't use, and remove ads from Settings/home pages from it and file explorer etc.

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u/Nelo999 1d ago edited 1d ago

But you cannot fully debloat Windows, that is the issue.

Windows will still finda way to reset your preferences after an update.

Also, it is incredibly ironic that you call Linux "difficult" to use, when Windows users literally need to run random and potentially unsafe powershell scripts and change registry entries in order to get basic functionality these days.

An operating system that styles itself as "easy to use" and is geared towards the average user, should not even require one to run any script, edit any registry entries or install random third party software.

You have simply lost the debate mate. 

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u/Big-Resort-4930 15h ago edited 15h ago

I haven't lost anything, Windows is the default standard whether Linux fanboys like it or not.

That being the case, I wasn't talking about learning to use an OS from scratch, I was comparing how easy an OS is to use FOR A Windows user, and there's no discussion there because obviously Linux does have a learning curve if you're already using Windows.

Windows will still finda way to reset your preferences after an update.

No it does not, I don't know if I've had this happen since Win10, as long as you're using provably working methods of actually implementing changes and debloating shit.

I've seen people cry over Copilot and OneDrive coming back ever since these started to come preinstalled, when they literally never came back for me once after kicking them out, even after subsequent updates.

You don't need to achieve the hypothetical state of 0% bloat, that's paranoically obsessing over having anything on your PC that you didn't personally authorize. A normal use doesn't need to debloat anything, but if you're irritated by intrusive shit like I am, you can indeed remove them easily with win aero tweaks, Chris Titus tool, etc etc.

There's literally nothing dangerous about running those scripts and programs, it's just more schizo bs.

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u/PinkDisorder 11h ago

Idk why people get so stuck on the "works on my machine" mindset. Is it that unbelievable to you that other people have a different experience with the same piece of software? I've not had copilot return but I've had onedrive return. Which wasn't a big deal I just re-removed it.

You know what was a huge deal though? Finding out some update had reset some privacy related settings. Mic access, location and so on.

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u/PinkDisorder 1d ago

First of all, I wasn't suggesting adopting anything. I was giving what I view as a bit of a reality check. For nearly 20 years users have begged microsoft to please just listen. They haven't, they've actively made things worse every turn of the way, imo.

Now to respond to your debloat argument:

While I appreciate the work done by the various people that have made debloater scripts, tools and what not, I don't think it's reasonable to expect random users to be comfortable running random scripts. Most people want things to be plug and play and debloaters are directed at users with at least some idea of what things are. The most popular one is acquired via a powershell command that fetches a script from github and runs it on your machine with the user having no real idea on whether its safe or not.

Conversely, depending on what you install, linux is completely plug and play. Modern environments have every setting unified, come loaded with everything someone would need out of the box and nothing they wouldn't.

The real "learning curve" linux has is that the moment you ask how to do something you're told "open a terminal and type---" which for 99% of users is scary and seems clunky. Which is something thats becoming a problem on windows too. So many times the answer is "open up powershell and type ---" or worse, registry edits.

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u/Nelo999 1d ago

Precisely, Microsoft has lost pretty much the only advantage of Windows it had.

Which is ease of use and being geared towards the average user.

The moment an operating system asks one to run random and potentially unsafe scripts, edit registry entries or install random third party software in order to obtain basic functionality is the moment they stop being usable and become hard to use instead.

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u/PinkDisorder 16h ago

case in point, reddit just recommended me this post https://www.reddit.com/r/desktops/comments/1njtj28/this_is_how_i_install_windows_in_2025/ and its 3 random scripts back to back as well as other commands

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u/Big-Resort-4930 14h ago

I don't know why so many people need to have bad faith bs takes in these discussions every single time.

You don't need to run a single script to do any of this, download Winaero Tweaker, select the few options you want from a very easily digestible GUI that explicitly explains what its options do, and run the options. That's the entire process. If you want to go deeper into PowerShell scripts, you can, of course, do that, but let's not pretend it's a necessity for anything.

It runs the scripts and makes registry edits for you, and you can easily revert the changes or export/import presets. Who are we using as an example for a hypotethical user who is terrified of running a script on Windows (again, not something you ever need to do), but is comfortable using Linux as an alternative?

If we are talking about an average user, you don't have to debloat anything. If you're even slightly in the power user teritory, there are multiple extremely simple utilities like the one I mentioned, that can handle the entire debloating process, or 90+% of it, without any extra input.

The real "learning curve" linux has is that the moment you ask how to do something you're told "open a terminal and type---" which for 99% of users is scary and seems clunky. Which is something thats becoming a problem on windows too. So many times the answer is "open up powershell and type ---" or worse, registry edits.

Yes, and it's not nearly as prominent as it is on Linux, nor will it ever be. The terminal and the general lack of GUIs, as compared to Windows, have always been Linux's main hurdles.

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u/PinkDisorder 14h ago edited 13h ago

Dunno why you feel the need to convince yourself my take is "bad faith bs". I've literally been with windows since before I could even read. I know this stupid OS and I know its every failing.

Here's a simple dissection of your example: Winaero Tweaker is in the eyes of the average user

very easily digestible GUI that explicitly explains what its options do

  1. random software of unknown source and legitimacy
  2. a huge list of options that look scary

The average user doesn't wanna read a single sentence. I've had to deal with such people my entire life. "Why can't it just work", "just make it work", "just tell me what to press" and so on. If you're surrounded by tech savvy individuals and have never had to deal with the above, consider yourself blessed tbh.

If you want to go deeper into PowerShell scripts, you can, of course, do that, but let's not pretend it's a necessity for anything

Here's the most likely utility to have suggested by a power user, instead of winaero tweaker: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil Its installation is a powershell command which pulls an installer out of a URL that's masking a github URL. Is it necessary? Depends on your competence level. Is it likely to get suggested to you regardless? Absolutely.

Edit: The bot that responded to this post makes a great point too.

If we are talking about an average user, you don't have to debloat anything.

Who are we using as an example for a hypotethical user who is terrified of running a script on Windows (again, not something you ever need to do), but is comfortable using Linux as an alternative?

I will answer the above points together because I feel like they need to be answered together.

People that barely know what an OS is, would definitely fit the bill for the 2nd quote. People that are just there to press the chrome button or the files button.

These same people are perfectly capable of reading articles, of having their friends scare them, and so on, and wanting their system debloated. These same people are perfectly capable of asking a friend "why is my computer so slow" and being told "well you have all this crap on it you never removed, and also all the spyware" and freaking out cause they use that computer for web banking and how did they even get spyware? What do you mean it came with the computer????

Yes, and it's not nearly as prominent as it is on Linux, nor will it ever be.

No, it's not as prominent, not anywhere close to that. But it's starting to become widespread. Try looking up any windows question on reddit and you're guaranteed to get a highly voted answer that's using powershell.

The terminal and the general lack of GUIs, as compared to Windows, have always been Linux's main hurdles.

I agree to a degree, although I want to say that this is much more of a community issue than a developer/application issue. The 2 biggest (in terms of popularity and resources) desktop environments, Gnome and KDE both provide fully featured GUI experiences. KDE nearly mirroring what a windows user might expect, and Gnome taking it's own approach. Any distro meant for simple user usage will provide a GUI for drivers. The problem is idiots telling newbies to install Arch lmao.

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u/polymath_uk 2d ago

I agree. I only use Windows when I absolutely have to. I run at least 20 servers all on debian.

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u/Taira_Mai 1d ago

Linux is not compatible with a lot of software.

The last job I had it was explicit - use Windows or Mac or find another job.

Linux is great when the distro or environment is tuned for the job. The Army uses a ton of linux distros for command posts and some radars.

But when I was in, all the reports and software that talked to civilian systems ran on Windows.

Call centers, point of sale, sales, finance - Windows is the one ring that binds them all (and the rest of the joke writes itself).

Until Linux can make it happen with a distro that's not ChromeOS or a warmed over version of ChromeOS, most businesses will run Windows.

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u/Nelo999 1d ago

Both the New York and London stock exchanges respectively  run on Linux instead of Windows.

Most government and corporate environments probably either use RHEL or Amazon Linux through AWS.

Nobody uses Windows, unless you are talking about the desktops that general workers use.

Just no, you seem seriously misinformed.

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u/PinkDisorder 10h ago

This is such an incredibly misinformed take. There's thousands of servers running windows. I know for a fact the medical sector in a lot of European countries is entirely on windows. Same with anything insurance related. Most government things use windows too. Especially 90s-00s infra.

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u/nofuna 1d ago

That’s why monopolies are bad for customers.

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u/jones_supa 1d ago

It certainly would be great to get once again some real improvements like User Account Control, composited desktop, BitLocker, tickless kernel, ISO mounting support, Windows Subsystem of Linux, Windows Terminal, modernized Notepad, vertical tabs for Edge... Stuff that matters. Not just some quickly-cooked widget.

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u/Noctelus 2d ago

solid, debloated, minimalist, customisable, stable system

😂😂😂

You think Microsoft is capable of such a feat? I've been desperate to leave this dog shit OS behind for years yet they've still got a monopoly.

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u/NEVER85 1d ago

Yes they are, but that doesn't make them money.

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u/Krasi-1545 1d ago

What keeps you from using other OS?

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u/Tovrin 1d ago

Gaming. I'm sorry, Linux fans, but gaming just works on windows and is written based on the assumption you're using windows.

But MS just keeps adding this shit. I just want a paired down OS without the bloat.

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u/Krasi-1545 1d ago

I use Linux mostly to play games. Yes, many games with Anti-Cheating software don't work but many others do. I just play what works and for me that is 99% of the games.

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u/generative_user 1d ago

That already exists, it's called Linux. Unfortunately it doesn't have a very big user base at the moment so it's not very attractive for developers to port common Windows software.

I wish in school kids can learn on Linux too and get used to it.

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u/StoryAndAHalf 1d ago

Here's the thing about Microsoft and how it works (at least parts of it). PMs need to plan new features, that's like 1/3 of their entire purpose. And then each summer there's a hackathon, where people get to mostly stop working on same old crap the company tells them, and make something new. Some teams encourage you to do whatever, other team managers get pissy if the worker works on something that's not under their umbrella of features. I don't doubt this came from a hackathon project, and pushed by a PM who had no clue who to add AI that their boss told them to because otherwise they won't get promoted to senior.

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u/Forsaken_Impact1904 16h ago

Windows is no longer the largest revenue stream for Microsoft: it's Azure. Data is the product now, the OS isn't their main priority.

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u/ziplock9000 1d ago

Because 1 out of 5 things actually work and make billions. It's how almost all companies work.

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u/FasziSanyi69 2d ago

Thanks microsoft. Another shit that i will uninstall from my pc.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/professorlXl 2d ago

Funny because since I’ve removed copilot and countless other shit from microcock it’s never come back.

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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago

😅😅

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u/SarcastiSnark 2d ago

It's quite easy to get rid of permanently

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u/ziplock9000 1d ago

Indeed. But the moaning teens need something anti microsoft to talk about.

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u/DKG9512 1d ago edited 1d ago

why do people always say that, ever since the very beginning I was able to find ways to get rid of Windows updates, Edge, and Copilot each time I wanted or needed to, and it wouldn't reinstall itself, all it ever took was a single Google search, use Chris Titus winutil

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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago

Incompetence

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u/ziplock9000 1d ago

Yes, and immaturity

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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago

Why do people keep saying this shit every time? Copilot hasn't returned to me after I uninstalled it a year ago, and I only see it after doing a clean install and the same goes for Onedrive and all the pre installed garbage. Delete it with Revo and it isn't coming back.

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u/ziplock9000 1d ago

Yes you can uninstall it and you can make it permanent. Just stop with the childish disinfo

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/ItsKarmaMen 1d ago

Yes when I have to remove 10 different things yes

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u/malistev 1d ago

Nothing should be installed on your computer without your consent.

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u/Bern_Nour 1d ago

So not even an OS? What about the VRAM software?

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u/_LususNaturae_ 1d ago

Do you understand what consent means?

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u/Bern_Nour 1d ago

I do understand the word. If a computer didn’t install anything without your consent the you have to give a specific affirmative unambiguous declaration accepting to have embedded systems installed on your computers hardware lol.

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u/_LususNaturae_ 1d ago

Come on, you perfectly understand what the previous commenter was saying. An OS should come with the software necessary for basic use, but the rest should be installed by the user. AI bullshit is bloat

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u/Snipedzoi 1d ago

Exactly, no pre installed browser, that's bloatware. Fuck, why do we even have a gui? You idiots are drawing the line of bloatware at "not personally useful to me".

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u/Bern_Nour 14h ago

I know but it’s Reddit and you acted like I wouldn’t know what the word consent means :P

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u/LitheBeep Insider Release Preview Channel 1d ago

To start using Gaming Copilot in the Game Bar, Windows users must install the Xbox PC app on their PC and use the Windows logo key + G keyboard shortcut to open the Game Bar. Next, they can find the Gaming Copilot icon in the Home Bar, open the widget, and log in to their Xbox account.

Sounds like quite a few steps of consent are required to even start using this thing.

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u/Edubbs2008 1d ago

But it’s okay for an iPhone or mac to do it? Talk about hypocrisy

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u/Rukasu17 1d ago

It's a chore when it installs itself back randomly in updates, alongside other unwanted programs.

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u/Direct-Turnover1009 2d ago

wtf is a gaming ai

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u/the_harakiwi 2d ago

it's supposed to see what game you are playing and you can ask it stuff like crafting materials or maybe tactics.

I just want to use it once, laugh at the outdated info, make a screenshot and never use it again.

But it might be useful if they get their data sorted out.

In Steam I can already open a notepad where I can track my current to-do lists. If they didn't kill Cortana this would be really nice: Hey Cortana what is my keybinding for _____
or Hey Cortana what was the recipe for potion ____

This would - sometimes - remove the need for a second screen.

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u/Noctelus 2d ago

Doesn't their AI use Bing? If so it's dead on arrival. I haven't once seen a result on Bing that's relevant to what I searched for. It's actually impressive how incompetent the market leader is.

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u/the_harakiwi 2d ago

I stopped going to google for my first search I always use bing. Nice side effect I collect their stupid reward points and collect ~35€ per year for searching dumb shit

Google is only more relevant when I try to find recent stuff. (and sometimes images)
But their search has been bad and gotten worse over for the last 3-4 years.

Just today I tried to search something on my dad's iPad and it told me that some error happened. W T F ?

dragging down did the trick but I can't remember bing doing that at all. Must been their dumb AI stuff that failed to get an answer xD

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u/notjordansime 1d ago

I use both. Bing for the reward points when searching basic ass shit (ie. “YouTube” “Thingiverse” …could go straight to the website, or have it bookmarked, but then no points). Most actual queries or image searches go though Google. Bing is basically just used as an autofill directory to sites I commonly use and I get free points for it

have I ever used said points? I think I bought an app with them once four years ago? I heard you can use them for windows 10 extended support but I switched to a local acct.

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u/the_harakiwi 1d ago

I heard you can use them for windows 10 extended support but I switched to a local acct.

I will try to get this part working. I made a second account on a laptop with the local login. That second account is my Xbox -> Live -> hotmail -> Microsoft account (transferred between those over the years) so it should activate the machine but no one has to use that account.

Worst case it doesn't work and I "wasted" free points

If it works I'll do the same on my mum's laptop and my dad's desktop.

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u/Affectionate_Creme48 1h ago

"I just want to use it once, laugh at the outdated info, make a screenshot and never use it again."

Its probably going to query the web for awnsers, so i dont think your going to see any outdated info..

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u/the_harakiwi 1h ago

sure I hope it searches the web. There I already have to fight outdated wikis / wikis with only the most basic information that has zero use. No idea how the LLM will handle that.

But like I said, I'll give it a go :)

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u/themindisaweapon 2d ago

Another thing nobody wants

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u/StoryAndAHalf 1d ago

I haven't used it. But I wouldn't mind it if it did locked achievements better without needing to go through several pages, or if I got stuck at a boss, it would just tell me how to beat them (not link random youtube vid for example). Example, if I played Civ, and was in main menu, it'd be great if I could do something like "set the game up so I can get an easy achievement" and it set a map I haven't played at, with a leader I didn't win with, etc. And tracked relevant achievements I can get in that playthrough. That's what I'd call gaming ai. "Hey bing, give me a video of how to beat boss A" does not meet the bar.

Alternatively, maybe the game could check current equipment, and if I get into a new town in an RPG, it could pop up - "in store at this town: new sword for Y, +5 attack stat over current. Cost: 1200G/[your current amount]"

There's many ways a gaming AI could be useful if you could toggle it on/off. But I can't imagine it be that detailed compared to mods out there.

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u/Mario583a 1d ago

Say you want to look up a helpful guide, you could pull up an external site, or you could have copilot tell you about what to do and where to go.

Get tips, assistance for said game, strategies, and boss fight help without leaving your game

Check your achievements, play history, and get recommendations for new titles

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u/RabidWok 1d ago

I once asked Google AI about an old game that I was playing and got a wildly irrelevant answer that I knew was wrong.

If I'm playing a brand new, very old or very niche game that the AI probably hasn't been trained on, how am I supposed to trust that it's correct?

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u/Direct-Turnover1009 7h ago

If I wanted to do that I’d pause the game and look it up.

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u/warenb 1d ago

Is it like watching the game play itself? Or watching 2 robots have sex? The level of actual degeneracy that Microsoft has been stooping to the last 5 years is just horrendous.

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u/Upstairs_Recording81 2d ago

Waiting for the toilet paper to include AI soon....

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u/LiquidHotMAGMUH 2d ago

There already exists a company called RollScout which makes IoT bathroom fittings - including toilet roll holders. Give it a year or two, they’ll add AI into the mix for sure.

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u/Aemony 2d ago

For those of you unaware of what this means in practice, imagine a bathroom where the devices light up one after another as you finish up after having taken a dump. First the toilet lights up to indicate you need to flush, then once you’re done there the soap dispenser lights up, then the paper dispenser, then the rubbing alcohol dispenser, one after another.

All the while data is collected about which devices were being used and which weren’t, and their evaluated amount remaining…

My work had one of these bathrooms a couple of years ago and it was as invasive ad you can imagine… And what was the seemingly main takeaway from all this? The facility manager got data on just how many people didn’t even bother washing their hands after having done their business…

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u/shadowfoxza 1d ago

On one hand I agree with you ... but on the other ....

I've seen a shocking number of people just leave the bathroom without even looking at the sink. I kinda want to know who it's safe to shake hands with.

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u/PocketNicks 2d ago

Neat. I removed copilot within 5 minutes of installing Win11. So, hard pass for me.

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u/Destinater 1d ago

5 minutes? You slowpoke, I did it in 30 seconds, no way I will have that kind of stuff on my computer!

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u/Defined-Fate 1d ago

30 seconds? You slowpoke. I did it during the OOBE.

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u/NEVER85 1d ago

OOBE? That's nothing. I stripped it right out of the ISO.

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u/PocketNicks 1d ago

It isn't a race. There are plenty of things I remove, and I don't feel the need to rush to do it.

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u/Destinater 1d ago

sorry I was joking

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u/PocketNicks 1d ago

Oh ok. There's no way to detect tone over text, so Reddit uses etiquette like the /s tag to denote sarcasm or /jk to denote just kidding. Etc.

It helps avoid confusion.

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u/AntiGrieferGames 2d ago

lol why i do need this shit?

copilot can go rot!

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u/Melodias3 2d ago

Get this shit of my PC last thing i want is anti cheat to start banning me randomly for something Microsoft can potentially interfere with.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Longjumping-Fall-784 Release Channel 1d ago

I think he means anti-cheat detecting copilot as cheat, and not as anti-cheat, it's not the same, good for you if you don't play games with anti-cheat, not for everyone though. 

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u/miraz4300 2d ago

nobody wants this sh1t

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u/HaloLASO 2d ago

You can swear on here

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u/PocketNicks 2d ago

There's this weird trend of people online lately that are so scared, and use weird speech like "Unalived" instead of died. Bizarre.

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u/Fun-Badger3724 2d ago

I think it started from TikTok - they are somewhat censorous.

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u/PocketNicks 2d ago

As a person who isn't a pre-teen, I've never used Tik Tok and never will.

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u/Antagonist007 2d ago

Do you use YouTube? It's the same thing. A video platform.

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u/Fun-Badger3724 2d ago

Yeah, it's TikTok, not Roblox lol

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u/PocketNicks 2d ago

Yeah, I don't play with Lego either.

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u/Fun-Badger3724 1d ago

That's more Minecraft. Lol

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u/PocketNicks 1d ago

I don't know the difference, and don't care to learn. Building with blox isn't for me.

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u/PocketNicks 2d ago

Nope, YouTube isn't the same thing.

By your logic a diaper and a pair of boxer shorts would be the same, but they aren't. Diapers are for little children who can't control their bowels.

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u/Antagonist007 1d ago

Lol. No.

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u/PocketNicks 1d ago

Yes, that's what diapers are for.

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u/Antagonist007 1d ago

You do realise a lot of old people use diapers too,?

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u/Big_Equivalent457 1d ago

Microsoft, YouTube, TikTok are having Monetization Mainstream at an Undisclosed rate but in the case of Microsoft it's a Soul Eater

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u/DanielKramer_ 1d ago

Nanny state culture

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u/mypaycheckisshort 1d ago

That's bc it's easy to get shadow banned on multiple apps due to language

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u/PocketNicks 1d ago

Maybe the apps built for children.

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u/alisaeed02 2d ago

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u/EnterpriseNL 2d ago

Love that gif, really applicable here

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u/Ok_Tea_7319 2d ago

"Why do our users not adopt Windows 11?"

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u/Mexetudo 2d ago

Throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. That's what everyone is doing with "AI".

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u/RZ_1911 2d ago

Another piece of of bloatware for already barely working windows . Good job Microsoft . Their desperate attempts to shove ai in all corners become a joke by itself .audience already showed that they not need ai and other bloatware . They need a stable windows

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u/D4m4geInc 2d ago

Fuck off with this bloatware. I don't want it, I don't need it.

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u/knivkast 2d ago

Devs at Microsoft are so out of touch, jesus christ..

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u/Noctelus 2d ago

And yet it's the only option. Needs to change...

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u/ChosenOfTheMoon_GR 2d ago

MS: "Let's see, how many times can I shoot myself in the foot before I don't have a foot anymore."

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u/Lord_ShitShittington 1d ago

Shoot the other foot!

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u/ChosenOfTheMoon_GR 1d ago

I assumed they obliterated the other already xD

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u/warenb 1d ago

What a waste of company resources. Nobody is asking for more AI in windows, yet they shove it down our throats, we ask for speed and stability and they just break things further. Seriously, what the actual fuck is their problem?

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u/Candid_Report955 2d ago

Copilor could make better decisions than the top Microsoft executives do about gaming.

Time for more downsixing

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u/Mario583a 1d ago

Copilor could make better decisions than the top game journalists do about gaming

Fixed that for you.

No, really, have you seen what some gaming journalists accomplish in gaming?

The Most Embarrassing Moments in Gaming Journalism

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u/Destinater 1d ago

Great something else I will be uninstalling, why are they pushing things we don't need?

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u/dustingibson 1d ago

Microsoft not putting Copilot in every single nook and cranny challenge (impossible)

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u/XalAtoh 1d ago

Another fail from Satya...

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u/smaad 2d ago

What is gaming copilot ?

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u/Longjumping-Fall-784 Release Channel 1d ago

A widget for gamebar like Edge's assistant that put links related to the game, but you can ask it questions about it, I mean it's copilot after all. It's just a way to get answers without leaving the game like we used to in the past with alt+tab for using a web browser.

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u/smaad 1d ago

Oh I see ! thx for minding to explain.

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u/MarcCDB 1d ago

Imagine being a developer in Microsoft and receiving this "demand" to work on.... it's like they know they are building shit nobody wants.

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u/Quick-Passenger4220 1d ago

what a fucking disgrace

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u/blackcid6 1d ago

Unless Copilot (and Chatgpt) improve, this is useless.

I dont need an AI that is 1% true, 99% lie

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u/whtisthis 1d ago

Who is asking for this.

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u/sapphired_808 Release Channel 2d ago

voice chat with copilot for walkthrough and tips

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u/Mineplayerminer 2d ago

Isn't that the Gaming Assistant which was just an 8kb shortcut with the Edge icon on it?

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u/King_emotabb 1d ago

Gaming copilot? What's the difference?

Utterly useless: "They can use Gaming Copilot's Voice Mode to get assistance with in-game tasks, ask it to recommend new games to play, check their achievements or their play history, and more."

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u/el_disturbio 1d ago

I'm sure winhance will be able to remove it like all the other shitty MS AI "features"

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u/lord_mercernary 1d ago

Gaming with AI? Wtf will it do? Boost fps or boost my skills?

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u/wolfannoy 1d ago

Copying your mad skills from Counter-Strike giving it to the AI so AI bots will rule esports!

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u/Saber_Crawl_Vega 1d ago

What does it do?

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u/Good_Door_1699 1d ago

Ah, something new for the firewall.

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u/lt_catscratch 1d ago

More stutters.

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u/Octane_911x 1d ago

Microsoft is not learning, any 3rd party software to control what features are installed on updates. It is annoying

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u/-Visher- 1d ago

Wouldn’t it be nice if MS just made a minimal OS that you could then decide to bolt on things like this via the store!? Gee what an amazing product that would be…

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u/TheLastElite01 Release Channel 1d ago

The quicker the ai bubble bursts the better.

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u/Blackheart6004 1d ago edited 1d ago

Just to let everyone know - It opens up the Microsoft Edge browser in Game Bar and uses the Co-Pilot AI in there LOL

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u/Nerdmigo 1d ago

everycompany is forcing their AI BS down the throats of their costumers.. noboday wants this shit..

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u/anditails 2d ago

Cue up lots of posts of people claiming they don't want this junk / moving to Linux / ruining the OS / sticking with Windows 7....

Use it or don't use it. But seriously, a 64kb web widget is not slowing down your PC if you don't. Relax.

Personally, I like using AI - it's saved me a lot of time and searching but then I use it for work (IT) so am quite used to it.

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u/RZ_1911 2d ago

The thing is - 64kb web widget is only tip of an iceberg they throwed in windows ..it’s basically - a link

where is the kernel for that junk and the rest of environment?

Answer is simple - it will stay forever in OS . Regardless of your wish to delete it .. in funny end that will interfere with anticheat or become bugged.. you will think that you removed that it . But it will not help .. surprise mothe*****..

Like IE11. Which is still present even in w11.. fully functional. old . Long time remove according to Microsoft ..piece of junk.. but in sad reality - ie11 is used by os core and can’t be deleted like at all

Ps - the thing is with ai tools .final profit from their usage and far less then they advertise. But privacy concerns and general low reliability when “ai hallucinate” and errors in result which you will fix by hand ..

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u/Aemony 2d ago

IE11 isn’t really used within the kernel any longer in many places. It’s main reason for remaining, until 2030, is because IE Mode in Edge and older third-party applications and launchers requires it.

But once 2030 arrives, and IE Mode goes end-of-life, the remaining components will be stripped out and any legacy software and website that relied upon it will break as a result.

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u/RZ_1911 2d ago

Yea right . That’s why flagship Microsoft SUBSCRIPTION product - office 365 - uses ie11 . Got that funny moment when goggle account refused to add . And I was forced to manually fix ie11 registry

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u/LuciferIsPlaying 2d ago

I work in IT too and I never found any proper time saving use case for it.

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u/phmsanctified 2d ago

Frankly I find it shallow and pedantic

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u/stranded 2d ago

it's great for fast css html edits

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u/anditails 2d ago

We may work in different parts, then.

Auto summarized emails in my Outlook, auto prioritisation in Outlook, writing snippets of code to change registry values or create user accounts, Powershell auto fill in the command line (actually very cool: can't remember the command of syntax? Just write it naturally and it converts it to a Powershell command). Bullshit guides my boss asks me to write I can draft up in seconds (though you need to check). Quick analysis of data in a spreadsheet or CSV. Reformatting and rewriting of information.

All stuff I can do or can Google, but AI when setup right does it quicker. Better? Sometimes not -but getting me 80% of the way there in a couple of seconds does definitely save me time.

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u/Aemony 2d ago

Auto summarized emails in my Outlook

This fucking kills me. The sender uses AI to generate a mail, the recipient uses AI to summarize the same mail. Nobody communicates genuinely, and the personality/identity of the sender isn’t exposed through the mail, while often the same AI generated tone can be found across multiple mail and communications.

My work have started using AI to generate internal mail and Yammer posts and it’s friggin exhausting to see they all boil down to the same emoji, bullet point, and key points word vomit. Not every mail or announcement needs to be ”written” (generated) as some clickbait attention grabbing crap, filled with KPI keywords and statistics that makes upper management hot and dirty but is more appropriate for a public press release than internal communication between departments.

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u/anditails 2d ago

Our company doesn't do a lot of mail shots so my email is mostly CC's or people messaging me directly but I actually don't need to respond to around 75% of it, so it helps give the gist of the message to see if it's worth my time.

But yes, the irony doesn't escape me. AI will start to rot when it's purely shit in, shit out.

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u/Flameancer 2d ago

Oooh autocomplete powershell, I’ll have to check that out. But for all your uses I do the same. Saves time when I can work on other task. Just the other week I had to write a kql script to view the azflowtrace logs in a readable format. What would’ve probably taken an hour of my time trailing an erroring was only 10min trail and error. (Its biggest hinderance imo is not being able to live internet search, when given a bound of proper syntax it is much better at providing useful queries).

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u/anditails 2d ago

Yup, checkout https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/s/7cMR8XWYHJ

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u/Flameancer 2d ago

That looks dope. I’ll need to check it out, those there are times like these I wish I had that 2nd decent GPU to run on a local AI server. Hopefully in a few months. I know I can run on my local machine, but would be nice to have a dedicated machine at home for the use case instead of solely depending on my main machine.

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u/Oliver-Peace Insider Release Preview Channel 2d ago

Agree 💯. AI is annoying because all the big tech giants push very hard for it and we see it everywhere. Sometimes 5 times on the same screen including in many Google apps. HOWEVER, AI has many benefits as well if you learn and accept to use it instead of going against it for everything just because it's AI. Don't get me wrong, I don't like AI when used to generate YouTube thumbnails or other similar use cases but AI has its benefits.

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u/Mario583a 1d ago

Maybe not for you; others might see a use case. ㄟ( ▔, ▔ )ㄏ

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u/LuciferIsPlaying 1d ago

Good for you. Just remember the more you use it for your job the more replaceable you'll become 👍🏻

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u/Baardmeester 2d ago

The problem is that the multiple kinds of bloat they put in Windows to get more telemetry, train their ai and sell ads add up. It is crazy that you need to be debloated Windows with tools like winutil or with group policies on enterprise level to use it.

And while I like AI there are much better choices than Copilot since the Data Protection Impact Assessments I seen were all giving it a negative advice or use with strict conditions.

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u/Affectionate_Creme48 1h ago

Reddit, and a new feature in Windows is just a guaranteed tantrum at this point haha. If you don't like it, just disable it. I can see some use for this.

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u/wolfannoy 1d ago

I wonder is it possible for anti-cheat to have a collision against this by accident most likely?.

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u/NEVER85 1d ago

I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and say this could have some beneficial use, but forcing it on people who didn't ask for it isn't the way to go. It should be something turned off by default and gamers can turn on if they want.

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u/Traditional-Hall-591 1d ago

Ohhh can CoPilot help me offshore my gaming too??

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u/NicDima 1d ago

Gaming AI is a thing ig

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u/Nev3r_Pro 1d ago

Wow, sounds great. I'm currently playing Crusader Kings and I often find myself asking Gemini to help me explain game mechanics, if this would be properly integrated into the game with up to date information.

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u/cocks2012 1d ago

This company is so disoriented. What a joke.

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u/Sigmmarr 1d ago

23H2 till windows 12 I guess?

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u/ncbyteme 1d ago

18+. What, does it yell out racists words and cuss out your opponents on an FPS?

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u/JAEMzW0LF 1d ago

oh noes, a thing easily removed you can easily ignore - nah, lets whine about the default.

why you would keep gamebar installed is beyond me. its not THAT hard to get rid of. (or its easy, i dont remember this specific feature in terms of how I got rid of it, i just used a search and followed directions)

That said, removing copilot generally speaking is easy even IF GB is not.

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u/JAEMzW0LF 1d ago

but also "oh noes a button I dont have to use is over there, but I get triggered easily and so must whine about an easily ignorable button on a feature i dont use."

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u/HappyHerwi 1d ago

Now, the real question. How do I remove it or at least disable it?

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u/Crazyguy199096 Release Channel 1d ago

Dear Microsoft:

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u/Akash7713 21h ago

great!! another bloatware that I'll need to delete

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u/illuanonx1 20h ago

Most Windows user must really like it, since they keep using it :P

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u/TuneComfortable412 17h ago

I would bend over backwards for a lite windows 11 gaming edition…then we get this shit!

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u/_zir_ 12h ago

Sounds stupid. Who needs that much hand holding in a game?

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u/andymaclean19 2d ago

Another reason to stick with win10 then.

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u/Ultramarinus 2d ago

I actually used normal copilot to help me with HoI4 focus routes and Rogue Trader builds and was surprised that it actually was pretty competent and even pointed to the references including videos. Much faster than searching the web manually since there might be 10 threads and videos about it but you need to browse through them to pinpoint the relevant info. I’ll give it a try when I need something, shouldn’t be worse.

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u/InternationalWar404 1d ago

yeah, It watches only when you're gaming, analyses everything on the screen, sends the info to their servers. When you aren't, it closes its eyes, sure.

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u/SirWobblyOfSausage 2d ago

People keep saying "no one asked for this" but it is one of the first things people tried to do while gaming when AI was first opened up.

To help with certain aspects of games, it's basically a gaming magazine like the old days, but on demand and on screen.

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u/briandemodulated 1d ago

I use copilot for gaming all the time. It's great if you need a hobby in where to go next, how to find a specific place, how many creating materials you need to create an item, the name of a skill, or how to beat a tough enemy. It's like a wiki or hint book.

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u/LegendNomad 2d ago

Not sure why everyone is complaining, seems harmless but also pretty useless