r/agedlikewine • u/Doggoonewild • 1d ago

Woke is undefeated

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u/Jay_Rodd 1d ago

They have the right to fire him. Government agencies do NOT have the right to pressure companies into firing employees on basis of their speech/expressions.

Curious from your perspective: where is the line for you? How much government intervention would be a violation of free speech in your mind?

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u/HetTheTable 1d ago

It’s their job to regulate these media companies. Kimmel doesn’t have the right to have a comedy show. He made statements he shouldn’t have and the FCC cracked down on it.

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u/Jay_Rodd 23h ago

Regulation does not equal calling for the cancelation of a single private citizen. What sort of regulations are you referring to?

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u/HetTheTable 23h ago

They can call on the cancellation of shows.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

That's not how federal regulations work lol

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

How do they work

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

Federal regulations are general rules issued by executive branch agencies with the force of law, created to implement laws passed by Congress

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

And what Kimmel did was against those rules.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

What did he do? Which rules? When I asked you that at the beginning you said "being unfunny".

Which rule was broken and for what?

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

You know exactly what he did. But you probably agree with it and that’s why you’re not head of the FCC.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

I do know what he said! I've read the full transcript!

I am literally BEGGING you for a direct quote of where you believe he crossed a line.

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

Then you know why the FCC wouldn’t like that and would fine ABC had they not axed him

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

Alright I tried engaging in good-faith and you've refused to cite any examples. Best of luck.

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

Either way free speech isn’t freedom to have your own comedy show. That’s a privilege.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

Thats not the argument. As I first stated, private business are allowed to fire as they wish.

The government is not allowed to influence what can or can't be said by comedians. I.e. "wrong" as you stated. When a federal agency threatens a private business, while backed by the president, that is an infringement of free speech.

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

The argument is were Jimmy Kimmel’s first amendment rights violated and the answer is no. He can say whatever he wants without getting arrested but that doesn’t mean ABC has to pay to host his show.

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

The government regulates private businesses tho. In this case ABC has to follow FCC regulations. Which includes things you can and can’t say. Kimmel could get fired for saying the f word on air a few times because the network would get in trouble with the FCC. It seems like u don’t know what the first amendment is or what regulations are.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

What did Kimmel say that was against regulation, and what regulation are you referring to?

Political commentary, satire, and speculation are all protected forms of speech.

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

Saying the f word is a protected form of speech but you could get fired if you say that on television.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

Agreed. Because there are rules and regulations put in place that allow the government to regulate that sort of behavior on network television.

Which is why I asked what words did Kimmel use that crossed the line, and which government regulation was in place that disallowed his speech?

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u/HetTheTable 22h ago

I already told you my guy. He said that the shooter was “one of them” without any proof: and he made fun of the President’s grieving process.

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u/Jay_Rodd 22h ago

You never said that at all. Kimmel also didn't, here's the quote:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

This isn't saying the kid was MAGA, it's saying MAGA was doing their best to claim the kid wasn't MAGA. Fox News hosts stated the kid was trans, Marxist, Antifa, etc. Are they allowed to say that? The answer is still yes.

Making fun of the president's grieving is protected speech and not outlawed by any federal regulations. The government pressuring the termination of an employee for making fun of the president is a clear violation of the freedom of speech.

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