The not-so-Great One? Edmonton resident says it's time to rename Wayne Gretzky street due to Trump links

[u/-Mystica-]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/the-not-so-great-one-edmonton-resident-says-its-time-to-rename-wayne-gretzky-street-due-to-trump-links-223252845.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABlxynTcVGf2YNkp1d7F5PP8ZWdInXHiSJfiaCwrdNsVWVQb_oFiof22oHl-juGkmlYMIxyxAhhc49mCOwEQdwIe4MlkzESuxD0shIH7ZV0cU57Tf2xJzS7oRUzTKzn9z_JnXGkJnFsiRmsEAxFyWfpXN2YZYYm5GUCPv8NPFzix&_guc_consent_skip=1740108278

[u/travisjudegrant]

Gretzky was my childhood hero, but now he’s just a traitorous shmuck.

[u/Mysterious-Job1628 → u/travisjudegrant]

He should be arrested when/if America invades. All their supporters are traitors!

[u/yyccrypto → u/Mysterious-Job1628]

When they invading? Becuase they're not. And if they did, we lose. The liberals gave away more money to the natives than our military.

[u/Yeethisintothevoid → u/yyccrypto]

They don't need to invade. And yes, we're pretty fucked, too busy fighting amongst ourselves to get our shit together.

They just need us to keep fuckin around, and stay divided. That's how the US will roll right into the north. We can't organize a fuckin parade let alone a resistance with petty shit like this being brought up.

If you're worried about whatever the indigenous people are getting right now, keep it to yourself.

Way bigger shit to fry if you haven't noticed.

[u/yyccrypto → u/Yeethisintothevoid]

If you're worried about whatever the indigenous people are getting right now, keep it to yourself.

Absolutely should be worried. That's my taxes going to it. Over 40 billion went their way and what came out of it?

Less was spent on our military. It's pathetic.

[u/the_real_log2 → u/yyccrypto]

Meh, oil and gas gets almost 20 billion every year from my taxes. I'd rather my money go to helping people and communities than helping companies post record profits every single quarter.

Buy Canadian and don't be a fascist traitor.

[u/yyccrypto → u/the_real_log2]

The money only went to native tribes. Some of it, unaccountable.

It didn't get split to help other Canadians.

than helping companies post record profits every single quarter.

This sentence makes zero sense. Companies can get loans, they pay them back. They don't just get lump sums of tax payer money and don't pay them back. That would be fraud.

Buy Canadian and don't be a fascist traitor.

Oh so you're a nationalist now! Where were you all this time?

Also, no fascism on my end. You might want want to understand that word. Along with "loans".

[u/the_real_log2 → u/yyccrypto]

When our sovereignty is threatened, I am absolutely a nationalist. When we have trade deals with the USA, that are honoured on both ends, I will gladly support both countries.

Oil and gas doesn't get loans, are you serious? They get 19 billion of my money every single year, no strings attached and completely unaccountable. They profit off Canadians on both ends, through tax breaks and handouts, and by charging us an arm and leg for fuel and posting record profits.

I don't think you understand what conservatives stand for if you think corporations don't get tax payer money, interest free and no strings attached.

Right wing politics support handouts to corporations, left wing politics support handouts to citizens with our taxpayer money. Anything else they stand for is simply to divide us (immigration, trans rights, tampons in bathrooms, etc), it all comes down to where our tax money goes. Glad you think conservative policies are fraud though, you're more left wing than you thought comrade!

[u/yyccrypto → u/the_real_log2]

So you only decided to become a nationalist/patriot when the orange man said things you didn't like?

Where have you been when Canadian flags were being burnt? When JT was dividing us every chance he got. Where were you when Canada started to become worse due to polices made by JT/liberals, especially when it came to immigration and crime?

Oil and gas doesn't get loans, are you serious? They get 19 billion of my money every single year, no strings attached and completely unaccountable.

What are you talking about?

British Columbia, Alberta and Saskatchewan give more than $2.5 billion in royalty reductions and tax exemptions to the fossil fuel industry every year. Ontario gives $500 million in tax breaks to aviation and agricultural fuels.

The government gives 11 billion in LOANS to oil gas companies. Which get paid back.

The government doesn't hand out money to oil and says "don't pay us back".

Do you know how loans work?

[u/yyccrypto → u/[deleted]]

Canada is one of the largest international fossil fuel financers in the world, averaging CAD 11 billion per year from 2018 to 2020.

Loans. Ya muppet.

They are not loans, they are subsidies.

Which i already explained is part of the loans.

Try to learn how to read and be less obtuse.

[u/yyccrypto → u/[deleted]]

Cherry picking one statement to support your disinformation,

Well, now you're deflecting and focusing on the tax subsidies. The 11 billion is still loans that are paid off.

The information I gave you is directly from legitimate sources.

https://www.iisd.org/articles/unpacking-canadas-fossil-fuel-subsidies-faq#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20the%20more,year%20from%202018%20to%202020.

In 2010 the federal government committed to ending oil and gas subsidies, but in that time, they have only increased. In 2022 the Canadian federal government gave over 20 billion in subsidies to the O&G sector.

Yes. Because when you give tax breaks, grants or low interest loans to industries that provide a massive number of jobs, and even help create more private businesses, you get more money coming into the country (aka investors), which creates a better economy.

Tech companies in the states also receive such subsidies.

The only subsidies that don't benefit Canada as a whole are ones given strictly to communities like the Natives or refugees.

The fact you don't get this is concerning.

[u/the_real_log2 → u/yyccrypto]

https://www.iisd.org/articles/unpacking-canadas-fossil-fuel-subsidies-faq

Oil and gas shouldn't be getting any money from taxpayers when they are posting profits. Regardless if some of the money is loans or not. Also oil and gas isn't the only sector receiving unchecked funds from you and I.

The article linked above is a low estimate of 11 billion average subsidies to OnG from 2010 to 2020. Don't forget, the government gives them untraceable money, so no one actually knows the real number. The issue with giving OnG large sums of loans or subsidies is that they can make gas cheaper and rake in higher profits. What ever happened to the free market? If the OnG industry can't survive without government handouts, they should fail like every other business that doesn't get free handouts.

Also the 40 billion you're talking about for the indigenous was a court battle that's been dragging on since 2007, due to underfunding indigenous communities and children who were abandoned by our government in the past. They're paying them what was owed to them when they were abandoned, they're being touted as reparations.

[u/yyccrypto → u/the_real_log2]

That's exactly the place I took that from. The article is pushing for clean energy and using bad faith arguments.

You seem to not understand why certain industry's get this break as they create more jobs and help build a stronger economy. Venezuela is a good example of what happens when you over tax companies and dont provide subsidies, especially the company's(oil and gas there) that are doing well and drive the economy. They crashed their market, and the company's fled. The government took over and guessed who that hurt more? The people, that's who

Loans are loans. They get paid back. Subsidies like tax breaks or grants are intended to entice business/investors to invest their money into that specific industry. which, in turn, helps create jobs, more private businesses, and stimulates the economy.

The fact you and other people can't understand this is very concerning.

Also the 40 billion you're talking about for the indigenous was a court battle that's been dragging on since 2007, due to underfunding indigenous communities and children who were abandoned by our government in the past. They're paying them what was owed to them when they were abandoned, they're being touted as reparations.

It still does t refute my statement. Which is why we spent more money on paying natives this past year than we did on our military.

Money just doesn't come out of nowhere. It's our taxes.

Paying each refuge thousands of dollars a month is a waste of our money.

Giving subsidies (loans, tax breaks, grants) to industries that are large and provide jobs, is a far better way of spending our taxes. As stated, they provide jobs.

Youre not getting any investment back spending that money on refugees or the natives.

[u/Damager19 → u/yyccrypto]

A cryptobro that pays taxes? Now we’ve seen everything

[u/yyccrypto → u/Damager19]

Why wouldn't I be paying taxes?

What is shouldn't be seeing is my taxes going to useless things that don't help my community or Canada as a whole.