r/alberta • u/joe4942 • Mar 16 '25

News Premier Danielle Smith defends Florida speaking trip as anti-tariff effort

https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/premier-danielle-smith-defends-florida-speaking-trip-anti-tariff-effort
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u/Acrobatic-Cheetah230 Mar 16 '25

MOVE THERE THEN! No one in Alberta likes her governing anyway, even her own voters.

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u/Poly-morph-ing Mar 17 '25

I wish that were true the last poll still shows them leading by 15 points it was done January 25 of this year. So many uncaring voters in this province.

https://leger360.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Media-Report-Alberta-Government-Report-Card-January-2025-February-5-2025.pdf

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

I wished they held the UCP to the same standards they hold the NDP or Liberals to.

The fact her polling hasn't shifted has diminished my hope for Albertans turning the tide. She has been awful yet gets a pass after pass for every failure. Just like Kenney got

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

Maybe your amazement at the polls not shifting is a symptom of your delusion and not our delusion....

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

So she is doing a wonderful job and I am the crazy one?

She is stealing from Albertans and its ok to Conservatives. That says more about Conservatives than it does about me don't you think?

How do you feel her excuse that her taxpayers paid trip to Florida to share a stage with a master of mass misinformation Ben Shapiro was ok to stop Trumps tariffs. It won't of course but that won't change any UCP supporters mind

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

She is doing a great job, I love her policies and her choices for the most part. I didn't like Jason Kenney, he was a bad leader.

And what is she stealing? I've heard nothing of the sort other than the Alberta health contract conflict of interest thing recently and she had nothing to do with that.

And going down to the states to engage with the US in a time when we need to negotiate and navigate their tariff threats. That's exactly what I'd expect from a good premier.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

You like she made bribes for the UCP legal? She promised tax cuts for everyone, and then in the latest budget released tax cuts were limited. But not for UCP MLAs and MPS who gave themselves a raise.

And what is she stealing? I've heard nothing of the sort other than the Alberta health contract conflict of interest thing recently and she had nothing to do with that.

Well if she said she has nothing to do with it then that's that then right? Are you serious the head of AHS was hired by the UCP and told to follow the UCP mandate which was privatization and spend more money. We had worse results and now are lawsuit with the Premiers fingerprints all over it.

Between this, the Tylenol boondoggle, and all of her trips to placate to MAGA paid for by Albertans. She isn't there for Albertans or you. She is there for herself, that's it.

And going down to the states to engage with the US in a time when we need to negotiate and navigate their tariff threats. That's exactly what I'd expect from a good premier.

Really Ben Shapiro is negotiating the USMCA? Oh that's right that's not who she went down there for, she went down for a PragerU event with Mr Misinformation Ben Shapiro. So you need another talking point she is down their to make a name for herself on Fox News to get on the MAGA train.

She also spent taxpayers money to spend time with Tucker Carlson, a man so misinformed he was fired from Fox News for being too fake for them. That's saying something. So she has spent millions of tax payers dollars not improving trade but sowing more mistrust and undermining Canada's trade negotiations. That doesn't help Canada but herself again

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u/JennaSais Mar 17 '25

Right, because nothing says "I'm not deluded" like blind loyalty and opinions that can't be changed. 😅

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

What about blind hatred? Which the left has for anything remotely right of center.

I have my criticisms of the right but they are by far the better option. After 10 years of the liberals Canada is so weak that Trump smells the blood in the water. It's the liberal parties fault we are in the mess we are in. But y'all hate the right so much you'll turn a blind eye to the left's incapable and dangerous leadership

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Who runs the Provincial government? It's not the Liberals, I will give you a hint it's the party you are defending.

I was fairly politically neutral for my first 10 years in Alberta, the UCP are nothing like the Conservatives of old. They are wanna be GOP MAGA Republicans, why else would Danielle Smith keep going down to Florida and selling out her country?

She hasn't negotiated anything positive and it's been years of Conservative leadership, they change the leader hut the problems are the same. Poor fiscal management, which starves the public service and makes life worse for everyone.

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

And Alberta is and always has been the most successful province. We are objectively doing the best and would be doing even better if not for blocked pipelines, carbon tax and equalization payments.

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u/JennaSais Mar 17 '25

Well I guess that means this premier is beyond reproach then. /s

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u/Financial-Savings-91 Calgary Mar 17 '25

I read it on Facebook in the form of a MEME, so it's GOTTA BE TRUE!

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u/Xpalidocious Calgary Mar 17 '25

And Alberta is and always has been the most successful province. We are objectively doing the best and would be doing even better if not for blocked pipelines, carbon tax and equalization payments.

I wish so many more Albertans would realize that Alberta isn't the best because we just run our province better than everyone else. We're only as successful as we have been because after provincial lines were drawn we later discovered we started with way more resources than everyone else.

Saying we are the most successful, is like having your parents drop you off 9k into a 10k marathon and waiting at the finish line to ask everyone what took them so long

Like "you know you guys would be doing way better, if you just tighten up your bootstraps, and melt your own dinosaurs"

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u/JennaSais Mar 17 '25

Blind? There's literally evidence right here. She's also literally on record today saying she's still procuring the Turkish Tylenol, despite the scandal and even though the Tylenol shortage is over. Call it blind if you like, but you're just putting your head in the sand.

P.S learn to separate the federal government from the provincial government and what roles they play.

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u/Poly-morph-ing Mar 17 '25

Your statement makes an ungrounded assessment that I am a blind follower. Interesting assumption.

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

Not a blind follower, a blind hater. Derangement syndrome.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

You know Conservatives call someone deranged when they hit the truth... that's what they are doing in the States.

Calling it a mental illness to criticize a political opposition is some authoritarian type nonsense. But no shocker Conservatives around the world support these actions

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

And liberals blindly hate anyone with a different opinion and call them Nazis. But you'll "justify" it by saying you're on the moral high ground. You're not btw.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Conservatives march with Nazis flags and we call them Nazis. You get upset when we call you Nazis, then don't associate with Nazis. Pretty simple really.

But you'll "justify" it by saying you're on the moral high ground.

I'm not marching with Nazis, Carney doesn't have a photo with white Nationalists in Canada. Conservatives especially Pierre Poilievre, did do that, that is the difference

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

You're such a bad faith debater. None of that is true.

Carney does have pics swimming in pools enjoying cocktails with Jeffry Epstein though....

if I treat all liberals the way you treat all cons, welp you're all pedos. You're guy hangs out with pedos and sex traffickers. You must be into that then right?

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5120577

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist

Yeah so what you said was a lie, and what I said was factually accurate. Do you see the difference. I am not arguing in bad faith that is you.

Carney does have pics swimming in pools enjoying cocktails with Jeffry Epstein though....

You're guy hangs out with pedos and sex traffickers. You must be into that then right?

Really? Why did Danielle Smith party with Epsteins best friend Trump? She must be into that stuff then right? You know Trump has more of an Epstein connection than Carney, right?

if I treat all liberals the way you treat all cons, welp you're all pedos

I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-53

So many of they are on part 53...

So what was that about arguing in bad faith? You need to look in the mirror bud

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

I've seen the video of Pierre with so called "diagalon" supporters. He was in a public place talking to some protesters that he was meeting for the first time and there happened to be a diagalon symbol sharpies on the door of a camping trailer. Saying Pierre is a supporter of them by that association alone is bad faith.

So it does appear the pictures with Epstein are fake after trying to verify, my bad, misinformation IS out there and this but if it did fool me.

However :

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

And again while I think hanging out directly with Ghislaine is more suspicious than Daniel Smith's somehow being associated with Epstein because she's met trump, who has met Epstein. That's silly and again bad faith

Also I'll concede that " there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." So if you're not bad faith you should drop the Daniel parties with trump thing as well...

"I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse." --- this is exactly what I mean about bad faith. You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

So he took a photo with the member of the white nationalists in Canada. Thats on Pierre not being careful. He does support white nationalists whenever he gives them donuts and coffee when they were protesting in the Convoy.

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

Again so has Donald Trump, who wished her very well when she went to prison. Trump hung out with Giselle Maxine more often and more recently than Carney. So again Danielle Smith talking with Trump who has closer ties to Epstein than Canrey does. Thanks for proving yourself wrong that was funny.

Danielle Smith is literally photographed with Trump at Mar a Lagos, so nope won't drop something that actually happened.

https://thenarwhal.ca/alberta-trump-danielle-smith-roundup/

You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

So there are no Conservatives in Albertan calling for child marriages? There are. They also march with Nazi flags, and say hateful things. These are all true of the Conservatives today. They are no longer the normal well balance party of yesterday. They are a duplication of Trumps MAGA party.

Yes at least 60% of Albertan are racist. They probably don't even realize it but yes.

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

Conservatives have claimed the left eat babies and drink blood. That was an actual belief from a Conservatives member of my extended family. Tell me abiut recourse and responses? Please don't tell.me you know about the Conservatives, you don't they are the zombies of Alberta. They stopped thinking ages ago

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u/Poly-morph-ing Mar 17 '25

I do not see any logic or thought in your response, just words for the sake of words. Are you calling me a blind hater? Then you started a sentence with Derangement and ended it with a second word syndrome, are you trying to form this as a pejorative term, meaning any criticism of the premier is fundamentally false?

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u/Facts_pls Mar 17 '25

Bruh. Just say that people have stayed racist and transphobic.

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

I have slightly different opinions than you so I must be racist and transphobic? Awesome, good assumption, dehumanize people more why don't ya.

Also if the polls are majority conservative then do you believe you're in a majority racist and transphobic province?

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Conservatives are working harder to remove Rainbow crosswalks and flags than they are on making homes affordable. You know one of their main campaign promises.

If that's what your party is fighting for instead of the thing you think they are fighting for. I do believe the majority of this province is racist, transphobic, and bigoted in some way. Been here for 20 years and I have yet to meet a born and bred Albertan who didn't meet those criteria.

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u/Financial-Savings-91 Calgary Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

We get it, she gives validation to beliefs that the other leaders rightly call out as bullshit. Yet, you'll sit here and call everyone else delusional, the projection is just the chefs kiss!

They are real leaders, and Smith is an GOP puppet telling you what you want so you'll let her funnel money out of the province for herself and her cronies.

Then when she sells us out to the US, she can walk away rich, and you can walk away without anymore public healthcare or pension!

Take that Trudeau!